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Thread started 04/16/10 1:23pm

Curtwill1975

Why do many on this board hate Beyoncè?

Seriously. I dig constructive criticism of her music. As a big fan, I don't like all of her music either, though I like/love most of it actually. I can understand people not liking her vocal stylings(I don't understand how anyone can say she can't sing at all).

It seems to me, that sometimes people, especially in here, really take it personal that Beyonce is even in the industry. Even if you don't like her music, there are millions who do and think she is a genius at what she does. If it's not the songwriting, then it's stage costumes, if it is not that then it's the Destiny's child "scandal", and if it is not that, then it is something else.

So my question, why do you really hate on her? I mean, her music can't bring that much passionate against her?
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Reply #1 posted 04/16/10 1:25pm

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Never mind confused
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Reply #2 posted 04/16/10 1:25pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

ALLLLL



What do you mean by that?
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Reply #3 posted 04/16/10 1:26pm

seeingvoices12

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Curtwill1975 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

ALLLLL



What do you mean by that?

OMG, you quoted that so fast? confused lol doh!
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Reply #4 posted 04/16/10 1:28pm

Curtwill1975

seeingvoices12 said:

Curtwill1975 said:




What do you mean by that?

OMG, you quoted that so fast? confused lol doh!



I am a fast typer. LOL.
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Reply #5 posted 04/16/10 1:28pm

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Because she's a shit hopper. That's reason enough right there. evillol
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Reply #6 posted 04/16/10 1:31pm

Curtwill1975

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Because she's a shit hopper. That's reason enough right there. evillol


Um Ok. lol lol
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Reply #7 posted 04/16/10 1:31pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


OMG, you quoted that so fast? confused lol doh!



I am a fast typer. LOL.

LOL...

To answer your question, Because she overexposed herself, she is everywhere, The orgers want her to take a break *unsure*: shrug
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Reply #8 posted 04/16/10 1:32pm

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vainandy said:

Because she's a shit hopper. That's reason enough right there. evillol

lol
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Reply #9 posted 04/16/10 1:33pm

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pretty much everybody on this board hates all of the new artists of today disbelief
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Reply #10 posted 04/16/10 1:35pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Curtwill1975 said:




I am a fast typer. LOL.

LOL...

To answer your question, Because she overexposed herself, she is everywhere, The orgers want her to take a break *unsure*: shrug



Okay, I hear that, but every commercial artist gets some kind of overexposure after a while. And it's not like it's for things other than her projects. But I hear you.
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Reply #11 posted 04/16/10 1:37pm

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PurpleDiamond2009 said:

pretty much everybody on this board hates all of the new artists of today disbelief
[Edited 4/16/10 13:33pm]



Ah....

But Bey isn't THAT new. I mean, she's been in the industry for over a decade. She's pretty much a vet in the industry now. Lasting 10 years in a here yesterday, gone tomorrow is pretty good.
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Reply #12 posted 04/16/10 1:40pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


LOL...

To answer your question, Because she overexposed herself, she is everywhere, The orgers want her to take a break *unsure*: shrug



Okay, I hear that, but every commercial artist gets some kind of overexposure after a while. And it's not like it's for things other than her projects. But I hear you.


I gave you the reason why Might orgers Do not like beyonce, I'm not speaking for myself,as for me, I never hated the woman, I think she is talented. biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 04/16/10 1:42pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

pretty much everybody on this board hates all of the new artists of today disbelief
[Edited 4/16/10 13:33pm]



Ah....

But Bey isn't THAT new. I mean, she's been in the industry for over a decade. She's pretty much a vet in the industry now. Lasting 10 years in a here yesterday, gone tomorrow is pretty good.


She came out in the 1990s didn't she? I don't like anybody that came out once the 1990s arrived except for Jamiroquai and some house artists.
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Reply #14 posted 04/16/10 1:55pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

Even if you don't like her music, there are millions who do and think she is a genius at what she does.


eek Genius at what? Coochie popping? Stealing song credits? Shaking a lace-front?
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Reply #15 posted 04/16/10 1:57pm

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I don't mind the girl but she's not my cup of tea. shrug
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Reply #16 posted 04/16/10 2:02pm

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Where shall I begin?

1. She wastes her talent on mediocre songs
2. She takes songwriters' credit
3. She and her father have no scruples
4. She's overexposed
5. She can't act, no matter how hard she tries
6. She's a poor man's Tina Turner

Pretty much sums up what I've seen on the board. Personally, I think something is wrong when the defining moment of her career consists of her dancing to a Bob Fosse routine move for move in a black leotard and an MJ lookalike glove, singing about Single Ladies (if you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it??)

I've seen better. Much better.
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Reply #17 posted 04/16/10 2:07pm

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Bare with me here, there is a point...

My girlfriend used 2 be a member of the website "Second Life". She played it quite a lot and got pretty good at it. She used 2 build virtual houses on there and some of them were stunning, beautifully designed and very well crafted but if she was given the tools could she build a real house in the real world? No, not a chance, cuz it's a completely different thing.

Same thing goes with 99% of artist 2day, (Beyondme included) they can make synthetic virtual music on a computer but when it comes 2 making real music in the real world they haven't got a clue. Damn though... If U hear them talk, they don't mind making people think they do.

There are many things a computer can do but one thing it can't, and it never will... Is play from it's heart. And that right there is my problem with modern music. It has no heart. Beyonce can't sing from her heart with real soul like Aretha Franklyn, Janis Joplin or Koko Taylor. And her backing tracks are completely souless. Her music, like most others 2day just doesn't "Move" me at all.

Thats why I don't like her and all others like her.
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Reply #18 posted 04/16/10 2:14pm

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comegetwild said:

Bare with me here, there is a point...

My girlfriend used 2 be a member of the website "Second Life". She played it quite a lot and got pretty good at it. She used 2 build virtual houses on there and some of them were stunning, beautifully designed and very well crafted but if she was given the tools could she build a real house in the real world? No, not a chance, cuz it's a completely different thing.

Same thing goes with 99% of artist 2day, (Beyondme included) they can make synthetic virtual music on a computer but when it comes 2 making real music in the real world they haven't got a clue. Damn though... If U hear them talk, they don't mind making people think they do.

There are many things a computer can do but one thing it can't, and it never will... Is play from it's heart. And that right there is my problem with modern music. It has no heart. Beyonce can't sing from her heart with real soul like Aretha Franklyn, Janis Joplin or Koko Taylor. And her backing tracks are completely souless. Her music, like most others 2day just doesn't "Move" me at all.

Thats why I don't like her and all others like her.



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Reply #19 posted 04/16/10 2:33pm

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MyNameIsPiper said:

Where shall I begin?

1. She wastes her talent on mediocre songs
2. She takes songwriters' credit
3. She and her father have no scruples
4. She's overexposed
5. She can't act, no matter how hard she tries
6. She's a poor man's Tina Turner

Pretty much sums up what I've seen on the board. Personally, I think something is wrong when the defining moment of her career consists of her dancing to a Bob Fosse routine move for move in a black leotard and an MJ lookalike glove, singing about Single Ladies (if you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it??)

I've seen better. Much better.


7. She is trying way too hard to BE an icon. Artists like the Beatles, MJ, Elvis, they weren't "trying" to be icons, they did what they did, they were FANTASTIC at it, and they became legends. Beyonce is nothing more then a product trying at every turn to build herself into an icon, when at best, she is a poor man's Brandy with more media behind her.

8.She is over-rated (along with over-exposed) Sure, she can sing, but that is expected if you are a product. She is given way too much credit for things she doesn't deserve. The innovative "Single Ladies" video is all a rip off. Someone should repost that post about Beyonce won't end up being the next MJ. It pretty much sums up, why she gets all the hate she does, and why she DESERVES it.

One last point...lasting ten years in the industry doesn't impress me when you have the label/money behind her that she does. If she wasn't banging Jay-Z and related to one of the biggest men in show business behind the scenes, she'd have been dropped from her label after her first solo album. If she wanted to impress people she would stay the hell away from the studio, performing live, doing interviews, press, acting, and anything media related for at least 3 years, then come back out. However, she can't do that because...

9. She is a fame whore.

Reason 10 anyone? biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 04/16/10 2:36pm

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Did you create an account just to ask this question? neutral

People on here hardly ever talk about her.
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Reply #21 posted 04/16/10 2:37pm

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cuz she faker than madonnas tits she gets on my ever lastin nerves walkin round like she all goody goody and the talent as a singer is there but dancing hell no acting hell no songwriter hell no
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Reply #22 posted 04/16/10 2:41pm

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Some years ago I just didn't give a hoot about her or her music...

Now, I HATE her music with a passion, and I still don't give a hoot about her ... lol
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Reply #23 posted 04/16/10 3:45pm

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Maybe Im in the minority but shes pretty good to me. I mean she's not anything thats super unique but shes a good dancer and singer.
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Reply #24 posted 04/16/10 4:18pm

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I don't hate the girl, I just hate how her pimp,,,,I mean daddy, hype her like she's the best thing since artificial dicks. Those people took the "strike while the iron is hot" to the EXTREME level.

But hey, I own her debut solo album(which I STILL listen to and enjoy very much) but she lost me to the left! to the left! all the way to chickenheadville after that.

Hell, comparaing to the folks nowadays, the girl has a nice voice,,,and with good material, she might pull it off enough to make your avarage music snob pay attention lol So, yeah, she's talented, but sadly she waste it on triflin ass material(to her defence though, she's not alone on that boat,,,,the once acclaimed vocalist of our time Ms.Mariah Carer is a victim of this bullshit as well).

As for movies on the other hand, she's NOT an actress,,,,she's just a high paid 3rd wheel who could make a mannequin looks like a bundle of open nerves.
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Harlepolis said:

I don't hate the girl, I just hate how her pimp,,,,I mean daddy, hype her like she's the best thing since artificial dicks. Those people took the "strike while the iron is hot" to the EXTREME level.

But hey, I own her debut solo album(which I STILL listen to and enjoy very much) but she lost me to the left! to the left! all the way to chickenheadville after that.

Hell, comparaing to the folks nowadays, the girl has a nice voice,,,and with good material, she might pull it off enough to make your avarage music snob pay attention lol So, yeah, she's talented, but sadly she waste it on triflin ass material(to her defence though, she's not alone on that boat,,,,the once acclaimed vocalist of our time Ms.Mariah Carer is a victim of this bullshit as well).

As for movies on the other hand, she's NOT an actress,,,,she's just a high paid 3rd wheel who could make a mannequin looks like a bundle of open nerves.
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Reply #26 posted 04/16/10 4:27pm

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Harlepolis said:

I don't hate the girl, I just hate how her pimp,,,,I mean daddy, hype her like she's the best thing since artificial dicks. Those people took the "strike while the iron is hot" to the EXTREME level.

But hey, I own her debut solo album(which I STILL listen to and enjoy very much) but she lost me to the left! to the left! all the way to chickenheadville after that.

Hell, comparaing to the folks nowadays, the girl has a nice voice,,,and with good material, she might pull it off enough to make your avarage music snob pay attention lol So, yeah, she's talented, but sadly she waste it on triflin ass material(to her defence though, she's not alone on that boat,,,,the once acclaimed vocalist of our time Ms.Mariah Carer is a victim of this bullshit as well).

As for movies on the other hand, she's NOT an actress,,,,she's just a high paid 3rd wheel who could make a mannequin looks like a bundle of open nerves.
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Reply #27 posted 04/16/10 4:31pm

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For the record, I don't hate Beyonce, Harlepolis. If she's a singer/actress and that's her job and she wants to work as much as she does, I say let her. I always like to bring it back home by saying if one of us was Beyonce and we worked it a lot and was in the spotlight as much as some are saying she is and we loved what we did (or even if we didn't), wouldn't we want to be allowed to do what we do: sing/act? Let Beyonce be Beyonce. I'm sure some people here are not into her music as much as others, but that can be said about a lot of singers. She sings from her heart to some and not so much to others. We hear what we hear and like who we like, but I guess it's always interesting to read the thoughts in other people's heads.
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Reply #28 posted 04/16/10 5:03pm

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leecappella said:

For the record, I don't hate Beyonce, Harlepolis. If she's a singer/actress and that's her job and she wants to work as much as she does, I say let her. I always like to bring it back home by saying if one of us was Beyonce and we worked it a lot and was in the spotlight as much as some are saying she is and we loved what we did (or even if we didn't), wouldn't we want to be allowed to do what we do: sing/act? Let Beyonce be Beyonce. I'm sure some people here are not into her music as much as others, but that can be said about a lot of singers. She sings from her heart to some and not so much to others. We hear what we hear and like who we like, but I guess it's always interesting to read the thoughts in other people's heads.


I already voiced my opinion about her singing, and she can keep doing the same dumb shit she's doing now for all I care shrug thank god for options.

But again, she's NOT an actress any more than Angela Bassett is NOT a singer lol
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Reply #29 posted 04/16/10 5:14pm

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My take is a lot of it is message board hyperbole.
How can you hate someone you don't even know?

There's nothing wrong with disliking her music. I don't like her music.
However the fact of the matter is that the girl can sing and perform.
As far as her live show goes, i'll say this, you never have to ask Is it live, or is it Memorex?
I'll also give her credit for putting together an all female band made up of musicians that can actually play.

As for being overexposed, maybe those that feel that way should consider expanding their musical horizons.
I listen to and watch a great deal of music from numerous sources and I never run into her material.
To tell you the truth, the only time her name ever comes up for me is when i'm here.





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