midiscover said:

for me it would be between the VR and Rock Wit You (I wished more people had attended that tour)

No one likes the AFY tour?

No one likes the AFY tour?

trueiopian said:

I liked that tour.

I've noticed that most fans don't like the AFY tour for some reason

trueiopian said:

U sure tina isn't in the WHYDFML video?

midiscover said:

At first, it seemed "lite" to me. It wasn't as substantial visually as something like The Velvet Rope (heavy curtains, big braided ropes, moving screens, tri-level stage (same one that Cher used later on), and dangling chandeliers), or the janet. tour with it's multi-level, flat screen heavy stage setup. All For You was one big flat stage, no real lifters or levels, other than for the band, and a pseudo-catwalk that came and went at will. There was a lift from the middle of the stage (which was only used once, that I remember, on the regular tour, and twice for the Hawaii show - one being for Missy Elliot's quick rise and fall mid-stage). All For You was very much of a stadium type setup (look at Tina's One Last Time tour setup versus that of Wildest Dreams, it's the same comparison with OLT being an outdoor setup), whereas Velvet Rope and the janet. tour was more compact (yet still big), and had that "inside" feel.

Although George Michael didn't use the horse shoe shaped catwalk for his Live In London DVD, he did use a basic runway, which got him out into the audience. The horse shoe was really for the stadiums, and the runway was for indoors. There were some shows without any catwalk or runway, too. Despite the levels and the complexity of the stage and screens, I still felt 25Live was an indoor tour, although it had plenty of outdoor dates in Europe.

In the end, I think people like that "indoor" feeling. It's like a bubble of a world for that artist, and you're part of it. An outdoor setting has multiple distractions with sunset, planes, traffic noise, or whatever is going on. That doesn't always appeal to people. It's like watching TV outside. It's just better inside sometimes.


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I've noticed that most fans don't like the AFY tour for some reason

midiscover said:

i loved all her tours, i've never been disappointed

midiscover said:

i loved all her tours, i've never been disappointed

lowkey said:

Not even with Rock With U?

Yea, you're right. I think that's why most fans love the RWU tour. It's her most visually appealing show yet. Janet did donate her VR stage and props to Cher's I Believe tour Also that's why I love the TVR tour so much! Because it felt like we were in her "comfort zone". It went with the whole vibe of the album too.

midiscover said:

I had to laugh at the "donation" thing. I noticed a LOT of similarities between those two tours, Cher lifting a lot of ideas from Janet. Just in approach, sequencing, etc, not to mention hunky guitarist Dave Barry was also in both tours, as well as fabulous backup singer Stacey Campbell, and keyboardist Darrell Smith.

ernestsewell said:

It's true! Janet really did donate the stage, props and even her band members to Cher.

daPrettyman said:

I'm just disappointed that none of that was ever released. Even with the cancellations, I would have pulled one good show out of my ass, and put it on DVD.

ernestsewell said:

It's hard to pull a good show out of your ass when so many things about the show sucked.

ernestsewell said:

It's hard to pull a good show out of your ass when so many things about the show sucked.

daPrettyman said:

Was that her worst tour?

Jan,

daPrettyman said:

The outfits? or the thought of a chubby Janet show?

midiscover said:

The staging
The outfits
The music arrangements (or lack thereof)
The choreography
The "new" song choices

So, it wasn't necessarily Janet, it was the overall show that I didn't like.

I liked the mixture of old songs, but I just thought that there were better songs on Discipline for her to perform other than "Never Let U Go" or "So Much Betta". "2nite" should have definitely been in the show. So should have "Can't B Good".

BTW, I don't think Janet was really "chubby" on that tour. She is naturally "thick" and I have NO problem with that!
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Control (A capella - video)
What Have You Done For Me Lately
Nasty
Don't Stand Another Chance
When I Think of You (Extended Mix)
Young Love
You Can Be Mine
Say You Do
Control
Lets Wait Awhile
Funny How Time Flies
Diamonds
The Pleasure Principle
Nasty (Cool Summer Mix)

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis onstage.
Paula Abdul and Tina Landon as backup dancers.
Fall 1897.
Co-headline with Bobby Brown.

Could ya see it?

daPrettyman said:

The outfits where meh and to think they were designed by Versace :crazy:
The choreo? The new ones, right?
The staging - Ch... Those wobbly moving J's I loved the catwalk I hope that's on her next tour.
Yea, I didn't like Never Letchu Go Curtians would've been better instead. Really an embarrassment compared to her classics (Funny How Time Flies, Again,etc.) But I loved that she performed Funny How Time.. and Discipline. Also the Pre-Control songs were a nice treat. I wish she would add some Damita Jo and even some 20 Y.O. songs wouldn't hurt.

Yea, me too!

Rock With U was my favorite tour by Janet. I can tell she did it for her fans only [although that's conjecture on my part]. All For You tour was the worst, in my lowly opinion. It just didn't cut it for me. I have been to all her tours. I have met her, and have also worked with her. She is a sweetie pie.