BklynBabe said:

namean? chart positions be damned, this is UNSUNG 2010 in this here

I don't know what to say about Amerie she can never catch a break

I liked her first album, but the rest is downhill...

Yeah, I have to agree

Her THIRD album is the best (from what I've heard so far) (I really don't expect this new one to be better than that one)

Cinnie said:

It isn't so much about record labels anymore as much as it is really about Amerie not willing to go through the same kind of "sacrifices" that Beyonce and/or Rhianna has made.

1. Amerie has not embraced her dark side (yet).

2. There has been no reports and/or rumors of Amerie F***ing For Tracks.

3. Amerie has not develop a deep professional OR personal relationship with any of the elitists within the music industry that can get her that promotional push that she needs.

4. Amerie has yet to "sell out" musically or psychologically.

Therefore, all 3 of Amerie's career albums have flopped because she has refuse to do any of these things.
[Edited 11/29/09 6:29am]

TonyVanDam said:

conversely, she's got absolutely no pull with anyone, can't get the hottest writers or producers or anyone at her label to give a damn, so she takes the "I'm not going to sell out and I'm going to make REAL r&b music" to distract that there is absolutely nothing interesting or noteworthy about it. don't blame her, but let's be real. her day is done and she's been coasting off the fumes of one really hot track that a producer came up with 5 years ago. and no matter what lip-service she pays to the artistic credibility thing, the real reason she's going that route is because she has no other choice and she's putting spin on it.

errant said:

woo! That reads kinda mean, but I never thought of it like that... like the hottest producers wouldn't risk chilling their luck by producing for her

Cinnie said:

Yeah exactly not everyone has it in their nature to play the game, its that simple. so people like Rakim and KRSone are doing "lip service" because they are fakes? I mean so the Roots are fakes too they've never had a big hit, so should they start working with THE DREAM? and get that hit too. And for the record both came up with the track 1thing, it was not by any means Rich Harrisons own work by any means.

But that whole "producers risk" thing is bullshit, fucking Timbaland laid down tracks for Brooke Hogan, that aint a fucking risk? Danja produced Katharine McPhee after working with Britney Spears, so producers will work with anyone whom the labels pays, they are pimps plain and simple. Now a label not wanting to invest in her is more the case, that was the issue at Columbia and it has more to do with her NOT caving on issues than her just not warranting the investment, but people always will make every issue like this about something else. But if this was MJ or JJ or Madonna or Prince everyone would be "artistic cred they are fighting for it" double standards once again.

But i still dont see the big deal, i mean if she becomes what Teedra Moses becomes who the fuck cares?? Amerie has the got the bank, mainly becuase she is smart, so if she has to do it that way, then do it. Why does she have to sell a million, i mean she never did before, why is everyone so into this numbers game? never quite understood it, so if she sells a million what does that mean? you like her now, because she sold?
[Edited 11/29/09 8:09am]

Only 12,000 copies in the first week?

missfee said:

A lot of artists who used to go gold sell in that range now

I see a lot of rap albums sell in that range

errant said:

Hate to agree because i do like her,but it's probably closer to
the truth than not.

phunkdaddy said:

Well lets just all stick to that view when its Common or QuestLove or Van hunt talking that same "lip service"

lastdecember said:

Are you talking about when those guys endorse Amerie, or put that spin on their own releases?

Cinnie said:

Well two have endorsed her, but all 3 have put that "spin" on their releases, i mean Van Hunt has a blog every other day talking "labels"

lastdecember said:

See dude this is your problem.When having a simple discussion about
Amerie,you want to cry and whine about other artists. What the hell
does any of those other artists have to with Amerie? You can't have
a simple discussion about Amerie without bringing up Beyonce's toenail,
Rihanna,or Mariah Carey.The premise is simple dude Amerie is a good
artist but nothing special that seperates her from the pack which
everyone on the org gets but you. The only one that takes all these
record sales comparisons and shit to the extreme is you. I agree with
you on one thing if the artist or record is good,then who gives a shit
about sales but in a nutshell let's quit trying to make Amerie out
to be head and shoulders above the rest of the R&B female pack.

phunkdaddy said:

No its a double standard plain and simple on who we like and dont like. How is it whining about pointing out the lack of consistency when touting artists? I dont care about Amerie being one of the pack, fuck the pack plain and simple. Everyone else put her in the pack instead of looking at everyone in different forums. I mean who put her in this pack?

The thing is that lip service as its called goes on with alot on this forum, so where do we draw the line of who is genuine and who is not? IS van hunt more genuine? Is Common more genuine? Is Lucinda williams genuine? Is Norah Jones genuine? So if we are going to put her in the pack of the "norms" which are the Beyonce's and Rihannas (i mean last time i looked they were all that RB has mainstream) that is the pack she is above creatively, if it dont sell who the fuck cares i aint getting a check from anyones sales anyway.

To me Amerie makes better interesting music than they do, and always has, if it dont sell who gives a fuck. a-ha is a better band than Duran Duran and u2 and has been more creative, but gets no recognition in this country, which has lumped them into this kind of "pack" because it only knows one hit, so who has a better view?

Im just waiting for the Norah Jones thread about only selling 170,000 week one and the last one sold 450,000 week one, wow shes finished, close up shop.

And if everyone looked at the title of this thread it was ALL ABOUT SALES. I didnt bring that up, the topic of "whats next" what the fuck is that? Whats next? Why does there have to be a "whats next", you did a good record, it didnt move to the masses of a public that is lame anyway, who cares, but whats with this "whats next" so the new Angie Stone has sold nothing, "whats next" for her, why does Amerie have to have this grand scheme to "sell"?? when she never did to begin with?
[Edited 11/29/09 10:17am]

lastdecember said:

Van Hunt is cool, but nobody outside of his 15 fans gives a damn about what he thinks.

Let's leave the other divas alone, this is about Amerie. ld, don't play with my dawg phunkdaddy.

errant said:

LOL he has 19 fans.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Hey he gotta get on out there.

Timmy84 said:

All i can say Timmy is i'm wrapped up in the NFL right now.
It's halftime. The Amerie debate here is pretty useless.

phunkdaddy said:

For real. Focus on football, that's better than this thread. I feel you phunk I feel you!

I suggest downloading the new Amerie for $5 at www.amazon.com/downloads ASAP!

It looks like her album was dead on arrival.I agree with the person who suggested that she go on 'Dancing With The Stars'.It may be one of the only ways that she could rejuvenate her fading career.

She needs to get into acting. Do a Tyler Perry movie

scriptgirl said:

you're on a roll

SoulAlive said:

I'd watch that for sure much like Mya.

i am not sure where she stands on the UK market, but i can see her doing pretty well there.

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[Edited 11/30/09 13:52pm]

errant said: