Do you guys always believe what a preacher is saying?

VenusBlingBling said:

Not always. I can find arguments, but it is usually good food for thought. And it is nice to hear that perspective when all week long you've heard anything but.

angel345 said:

Thanks

The "All Seeing Eye" or THE EYE OF PROVIDENCE is a Masonic symbol that represents the All Seeing Eye of God. God is a central figure in the Freemason society. They refer to him as the Great Architect of the Universe. Their movements, they state, are dictated by God himself, and he watches over them, and everyone else, hence the All Seeing Eye. Which is really the Eye of Providence, so stop calling it the All Seeing Eye.

My grandfather and great-grandfather were Freemasons, so I kinda made a point to actually research this stuff.

The Square and Compasses (yes, compasses, not compass) are used to symbolize many things, and are often used in ritual (just because it's a ritual doesn't make it Satanic) to teach the Freemasons to "square their actions by the square of virtue" and learn to "circumscribe their desires and keep their passions within due bounds toward all mankind".


So, if anything, any artists including Masonic symbols in their artwork/videos are actually against Satan worshiping, not for it.

Just saying.

illuminati fail:

BenaimanBawkah said:

Oh please! That same "Eye of Providence" also sits on top of a pyramid. And the pyramid itself doesn't have anything to do with Yahweh.

Cinnie said:

midiscover said:

Haile Selassie-I Ras Tafari

JayJai said:

Why the ""??

JayJai said:

Praise him!!

midiscover said:

Somehow I wonder if Bob Marley really knew his "hero" like he thought he did.

TonyVanDam said:

What's wrong with Haile?

I tell you, I really don't know what's more shocking. The silliness of all this devil talk or the lack of any artistic merit with todays "talent".

TonyVanDam said:

Mhm. Like that really proves anything. Some of these symbols were around LONG before people turned them into evil.

The Swastika used to be a symbol of peace. Now, if you walk into a room wearing one, you're liable to get lynched, even if it's not flipped like the Nazis had it.

Cinnie said:

TonyVanDam said:

I was referring to the Eye of Providence itself (which by the way, you don't have to put in quotation marks, because that's what it's called, not some made up bullshit about it), not the one on the Great Seal. But since you brought it up:

The pyramid on the Great Seal is a thirteen tiered, unfinished pyramid. The thirteen tiers represent the original thirteen colonies, and any future growth of the country. The lowest level of the pyramid says 1776 in Roman numerals. The Eye of Providence (read: EYE OF GOD) is over the pyramid (read: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA), thus, the Eye is WATCHING OVER THE UNITED STATES, or looking upon it with favor. I don't see how that's Satanic at all.

So yeah, the pyramid DOES have something to do with God, if you think about it.


Plus, the Masonic Eye of Providence had no triangle around it, sorry.



BTW, Haile had his goddamn hands folded. If you really want to get into it, that's a yoga thing. Focusing energy and whatnot.

I already went into the compasses and square thing.

I tell you, as a musician, if anyone asked me to do any devil shit I'd fuck them up. That devil shit got to go.

mozfonky said:

It doesn't happen anyway, so I don't see the big deal in this thread.

People are getting confused between Satan worship and an organization (religious nonetheless) that's been around for hundreds of years.

Besides, this "they" that people talk about approaching you is described so vaguely, and when they decide to approach you is never quite stated. What status do you have to hit before you get "their" attention? Who are "they"?


No one tells you, because "they" don't exist, and this doesn't happen.

Why all the wierd shit then? Snoop supposedly said he sold his soul, robert johnson was the first in pop folklore to do it that I know of. Dylan said something similar in a cbs interview. I am not religious and don't believe one way or the other, just don't get the purpose behind it all. And black folk never did those things in my experience, they left all that for the white boys who thought the shit was cool.

midiscover said:

Oh good grief! Have you not pay any attention to the first 16 pages of this thread? Haile was a pawn of The Powers That Be.

BenaimanBawkah said:

Co-sign! I demand to know who "they" are! Some questions are constantly left out and ignored. And I really have failed to understand the relationship between Masons and Satanism. Yet they are always talked about in the same context (in conspiracy theories).
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TonyVanDam said:

Who / What are The Powers That Be?

There is no such thing as the devil.

I found one with Prince:

[Snip - luv4u]

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mozfonky said:

Yeah, seen that one. Our hero was/is apparently a Mason and Satan worshipper too That explains the effect his eyes have on people.

i'm gonna keep reporting his ass until he gets banned from youtube. i dont care what his beliefs are about prince, it's not ok to use the word faggot to describe ANYONE.

mozfonky said:

mozfonky said:

I saw part 2. He talks about MJ

He even called Prince an Edomite, I wasn't outraged or impressed, what the fuck is an edomite? Some kind of sammich?

mozfonky said:

Oh fuck.





That is the most ridiculous shit I have ever heard. No contest.

BenaimanBawkah said:

Well, suit yourself. I think (CORRECTION: I know) for a fact that double meanings can never be overlook:

mozfonky said:

Edomite = a member of the tribe of Esau

And no, I'm not convince that Prince is an Edomite!