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PrintableCinnie said: mozfonky said: As far as gays, hell,they have more rights than I do these days
Oh really?  At least here in seattle, don't know about other regions of the country. American Indian is lower than anyone else on the socioeconomic ladder, fact. | |
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TonyVanDam said: carlluv said: The Brother is deep. the one that got me was the "What lies in plain sight." video. It ruined the song 4 my Wife. But it really opened my eyes to certain things Actually, I thought THAT^ one was funny!
Make no mistake. The video for Beat It was still inspired by the film/play West Side Story. But the real problem (as Lenon pointed out) were the questionable song lyrics. The homoerotic overtone of the song place it on the same level as The Village People's YMCA. Well, Michael did not choreograph the video, he may have had a hand in the choreography but Michael Peters choreographed it and he was indeed a flamer. Brilliant video so who cares about the homoerotic overtones. I thought the brother was reading way too much into some of the stuff. Michaels littls "devil signal" always looked to me like a zen meditation posture more than anything. Of course beat it was a metaphor for jacking off, I knew that when I was 14 because I did it all the time back then. | |
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mozfonky said: Cinnie said: mozfonky said: As far as gays, hell,they have more rights than I do these days
Oh really? At least here in seattle, don't know about other regions of the country. American Indian is lower than anyone else on the socioeconomic ladder, fact. You said "more rights" which I assumed was comparing to that of a heterosexual group, not "socioeconomic ladder" compared to any ethnic group, so I'll leave it at that. | |
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mozfonky said: TonyVanDam said: Actually, I thought THAT^ one was funny!
Make no mistake. The video for Beat It was still inspired by the film/play West Side Story. But the real problem (as Lenon pointed out) were the questionable song lyrics. The homoerotic overtone of the song place it on the same level as The Village People's YMCA. Well, Michael did not choreograph the video, he may have had a hand in the choreography but Michael Peters choreographed it and he was indeed a flamer. Brilliant video so who cares about the homoerotic overtones. I thought the brother was reading way too much into some of the stuff. Michaels littls "devil signal" always looked to me like a zen meditation posture more than anything. Of course beat it was a metaphor for jacking off, I knew that when I was 14 because I did it all the time back then. at 14, we definitely know the metaphors "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Cinnie said: mozfonky said: At least here in seattle, don't know about other regions of the country. American Indian is lower than anyone else on the socioeconomic ladder, fact. You said "more rights" which I assumed was comparing to that of a heterosexual group, not "socioeconomic ladder" compared to any ethnic group, so I'll leave it at that. no offense man, just the way I feel. I been touched, propositioned by gays, if i do that to a woman here i'll get locked up. But moreover, indians generally have no one, gay communities here harness their power pretty effectively. | |
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mozfonky said: TonyVanDam said: Actually, I thought THAT^ one was funny!
Make no mistake. The video for Beat It was still inspired by the film/play West Side Story. But the real problem (as Lenon pointed out) were the questionable song lyrics. The homoerotic overtone of the song place it on the same level as The Village People's YMCA. Well, Michael did not choreograph the video, he may have had a hand in the choreography but Michael Peters choreographed it and he was indeed a flamer. Brilliant video so who cares about the homoerotic overtones. I thought the brother was reading way too much into some of the stuff. Michaels littls "devil signal" always looked to me like a zen meditation posture more than anything. Of course beat it was a metaphor for jacking off, I knew that when I was 14 because I did it all the time back then. Besides the possibility that Michael Peters was butch-up gay, I also wonder if he was into S&M. I say that because in the Beat It video, he is wearing a spike collar. | |
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TonyVanDam said: mozfonky said: Well, Michael did not choreograph the video, he may have had a hand in the choreography but Michael Peters choreographed it and he was indeed a flamer. Brilliant video so who cares about the homoerotic overtones. I thought the brother was reading way too much into some of the stuff. Michaels littls "devil signal" always looked to me like a zen meditation posture more than anything. Of course beat it was a metaphor for jacking off, I knew that when I was 14 because I did it all the time back then. Besides the possibility that Michael Peters was butch-up gay, I also wonder if he was into S&M. I say that because in the Beat It video, he is wearing a spike collar. Is there something wrong with homosexuality? 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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Tony, what do you think of the Gaga/Beyonce collabs? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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RKJCNE said: TonyVanDam said: Besides the possibility that Michael Peters was butch-up gay, I also wonder if he was into S&M. I say that because in the Beat It video, he is wearing a spike collar. Is there something wrong with homosexuality? The sub-topic is about symbolisms & overtones in videos/songs, NOT about human sexuality. Read some of the pages of this thread before you start throwing flamebaits. | |
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bboy87 said: Tony, what do you think of the Gaga/Beyonce collabs?
I've never seen the new video yet. But knowing that they're working together is no surprise to me at all. Jay-Z's dark inner circle is expanding and The Illuminati-inspire Lady Gaga fits right in. The only real surprise is the fact that LG never co-wrote a song for Rhianna, since she going deeper in her own dark side than Beyonce has with her Sasha Fierce persona. [Edited 11/16/09 8:57am] | |
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RKJCNE said: TonyVanDam said: Besides the possibility that Michael Peters was butch-up gay, I also wonder if he was into S&M. I say that because in the Beat It video, he is wearing a spike collar. Is there something wrong with homosexuality? Yea, seriously. WTF does sexual orientation have to do with devil worshiping? Just because the bigots on those youtube videos want to align being gay with satanism doesn't mean it's ok to do it here. There's no place for that kind of bigotry in any community, let alone this one. And as far as mozfunky's whole "who cares about homoerotic subtext, it's still a good video"-b.s....just because something is homoerotic doesn't mean it's bad. If you're not gay, then it doesn't appeal to you and that's fine but please don't imply that because something is homoerotic then it is therefore bad. And it's also really not ok to refer to someone as a "flamer." Keep your bigoted comments to yourself, please. [Edited 11/15/09 19:25pm] | |
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TonyVanDam said: RKJCNE said: Is there something wrong with homosexuality? The sub-topic is about symbolisms & overtones in videos/songs, NOT about human sexuality. Read some of the pages of this thread before you start throwing flamebaits. I know the Lenon and hi alot of his followers are bigoted. I just want to know if you are smarter than that. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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piepie1976 said: RKJCNE said: Is there something wrong with homosexuality? Yea, seriously. WTF does sexual orientation have to do with devil worshiping? Just because the bigots on those youtube videos want to align being gay with satanism doesn't mean it's ok to do it here. There's no place for that kind of bigotry in any community, let alone this one. And as far as mozfunky's whole "who cares about homoerotic subtext, it's still a good video"-b.s....just because something is homoerotic doesn't mean it's bad. If you're not gay, then it doesn't appeal to you and that's fine but please don't imply that because something is homoerotic then it is therefore bad. And it's also really not ok to refer to someone as a "flamer." Keep your bigoted comments to yourself, please. [Edited 11/15/09 19:25pm] 1. Within the first 18 pages of this thread alone, no one said anything about homosexually being connected to devil worshiping. 2. There has been previous threads where the issues of sexual blackmail was mention as in the Chris Storkes VS. B2K controversy and/or the usually stories of artists of any gender/human sexuality that are/were F***ing For Tracks. And now it has become a much bigger surprise that this kind of "business" goes way more to the issue of the occult than some of us orgers thought. 3. As for the word "flamer", that was the wrong-doing of Mozfunky for saying that, NOT mine! Don't get it twisted. I'm very aware that all racial AND sexual slurs are definitely not acceptable in the org. And that is the mods' responsibility in enforcing that rule. Therefore we can request for that quote to be snip by the mods themselves. [Edited 11/15/09 20:50pm] [Edited 11/16/09 8:56am] | |
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RKJCNE said: TonyVanDam said: The sub-topic is about symbolisms & overtones in videos/songs, NOT about human sexuality. Read some of the pages of this thread before you start throwing flamebaits. I know the Lenon and hi alot of his followers are bigoted. I just want to know if you are smarter than that. No I did not know that. But if he is homophobic and/or anti-gay, then shame on him for feeling that way. I didn't notice that at all. But if you have some evidences to prove that he is, send me the links. Most fans of conspiracy studies that I'm aware of are definitely not homophobic. The only ones that are that I've notice are the so-called "black hebrew israelite". And I know for a fact that (despite their great knowledge about symbolism) they are racists AND anti-gay. And they take a piss-out out of Prince a lot!  [Edited 11/15/09 20:49pm] | |
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piepie1976 said: RKJCNE said: Is there something wrong with homosexuality? Yea, seriously. WTF does sexual orientation have to do with devil worshiping? Just because the bigots on those youtube videos want to align being gay with satanism doesn't mean it's ok to do it here. There's no place for that kind of bigotry in any community, let alone this one. And as far as mozfunky's whole "who cares about homoerotic subtext, it's still a good video"-b.s....just because something is homoerotic doesn't mean it's bad. If you're not gay, then it doesn't appeal to you and that's fine but please don't imply that because something is homoerotic then it is therefore bad. And it's also really not ok to refer to someone as a "flamer." Keep your bigoted comments to yourself, please. [Edited 11/15/09 19:25pm] Jesus you guy's. You should string me up by the nuts and spin me around jabbing me with red hot pokers from the way you're talking. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it in the way you guys took it. I just meant he was obviously gay and that he choreaographed the vid, the homoerotic stuff came from him more than likely, not Michael. And unless you misread my posts, I'm not hating anyone. Homoerotic is no big deal is all i'm saying, if it's a good video who the fuck cares. And also, i mentioned the obsession these idiots have with gay sex in these videos as pure homophobia, which is why I brought it up. Anyway, don't rope me up by the gonads just yet. | |
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TonyVanDam said: RKJCNE said: I know the Lenon and hi alot of his followers are bigoted. I just want to know if you are smarter than that. No I did not know that. But if he is homophobic and/or anti-gay, then shame on him for feeling that way. I didn't notice that at all. But if you have some evidences to prove that he is, send me the links. Most fans of conspiracy studies that I'm aware of are definitely not homophobic. The only ones that are that I've notice are the so-called "black hebrew israelite". And I know for a fact that (despite their great knowledge about symbolism) they are racists AND anti-gay. And they take a piss-out out of Prince a lot!
[Edited 11/15/09 20:49pm] I called him myself to ask him questions, as soon as I asked him what homosexuality has to do with it all he froze up, and then told me its this project monarch thing and the borg agenda where homosexuality will help end the human race. it was ridiculous. but I believe you. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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Great thread and pretty much the truth no matter absurd it might seem at first. However there is often far too much read into many songs/music video's which is more likely to have those who aren't convinced laughing their asses off and those who do know shaking their heads. Some people just have too much time. But there is definitely an exchange going on - wealth in exchange for energy. | |
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WildheartXXX said: Great thread and pretty much the truth no matter absurd it might seem at first. However there is often far too much read into many songs/music video's which is more likely to have those who aren't convinced laughing their asses off and those who do know shaking their heads. Some people just have too much time. But there is definitely an exchange going on - wealth in exchange for energy.
who are you and how do you know? and what "energy"? | |
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WildheartXXX said: Great thread and pretty much the truth no matter absurd it might seem at first. However there is often far too much read into many songs/music video's which is more likely to have those who aren't convinced laughing their asses off and those who do know shaking their heads. Some people just have too much time. But there is definitely an exchange going on - wealth in exchange for energy.
Now that is something to think about. | |
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mozfonky said: Cinnie said: You said "more rights" which I assumed was comparing to that of a heterosexual group, not "socioeconomic ladder" compared to any ethnic group, so I'll leave it at that. no offense man, just the way I feel. I been touched, propositioned by gays, if i do that to a woman here i'll get locked up. But moreover, indians generally have no one, gay communities here harness their power pretty effectively. I agree with you. Its because Seattle has a larger gay community than most places. I also agree that Native Americans are the lowest heads on the totem pole (so to speak) in the Northwest. But to be honest, if you are black and you don't assimilate to the local culture, you are ostracized as well. As a matter of fact, anyone who is not white and I mean WHITE, not white on paper like Arabs and Persians and some East Indians, is pretty much second class until proven they can assimilate. But, we're getting off topic. There are people who believe very adamantly in this stuff and there are quite a few in positions of power. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: mozfonky said: no offense man, just the way I feel. I been touched, propositioned by gays, if i do that to a woman here i'll get locked up. But moreover, indians generally have no one, gay communities here harness their power pretty effectively. I agree with you. Its because Seattle has a larger gay community than most places. I also agree that Native Americans are the lowest heads on the totem pole (so to speak) in the Northwest. But to be honest, if you are black and you don't assimilate to the local culture, you are ostracized as well. As a matter of fact, anyone who is not white and I mean WHITE, not white on paper like Arabs and Persians and some East Indians, is pretty much second class until proven they can assimilate. But, we're getting off topic. There are people who believe very adamantly in this stuff and there are quite a few in positions of power. I know, and I agree with you in many ways. I have loved and lived with black folk all my life, more like my folk than my own. They get more face to face bullshit daily than i could ever take, can't tell me otherwise, i've seen it. But as far as stats, health, education, etc.., Indians are losers. | |
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We better tie this all in with the music industry again, so...
Post the artists you think look gay. | |
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Cinnie said: We better tie this all in with the music industry again, so...
Post the artists you think look gay.  I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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Can we talk about this dude for a minute?
How come he didn't get mentioned in here since her wrote both Umbrella and Russian Roulette?  | |
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And Tony,,,,what did Lenon Honor said about Rhianna? | |
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Harlepolis said: Can we talk about this dude for a minute?
How come he didn't get mentioned in here since her wrote both Umbrella and Russian Roulette? Cuz he looks too soft to write such dark lyrics Ole youth minister lookin' ass nucca "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Harlepolis said: Can we talk about this dude for a minute?
How come he didn't get mentioned in here since her wrote both Umbrella and Russian Roulette? Cuz he looks too soft to write such dark lyrics Ole youth minister lookin' ass nucca HA! 
He better not sleep with those row of chops flashing in the dark, thats all,,,,,coz a shit load of bugs will immigrate especially for his ass | |
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Harlepolis said: bboy87 said: Cuz he looks too soft to write such dark lyrics Ole youth minister lookin' ass nucca HA!
He better not sleep with those row of chops flashing in the dark, thats all,,,,,coz a shit load of bugs will immigrate especially for his ass I remember Pimp C clowning him, saying he looks like he porkchops with no hands and shit "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Harlepolis said: Can we talk about this dude for a minute?
How come he didn't get mentioned in here since her wrote both Umbrella and Russian Roulette? Cuz he looks too soft to write such dark lyrics Ole youth minister lookin' ass nucca The preacher's children are THE worse behaved people outside of the Sunday-Keeping churches. He's the perfect person to take "The Oath". | |
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