TonyVanDam said:

So are some of my family members. Masonry has absolutely nothing to do with evil, unless the members want it to of course. Sheesh. And could you make up your mind on who's what, because Free Masonry and the Illuminati are two different organisations.

VenusBlingBling said:

I'll try sending you the orgnote (since this thread is getting slower due to the number of pages.

VenusBlingBling said:

And BTW, I'm very aware through life experience that most of the Freemasons that I crossed paths with are very good people that really try to do good things in the local communities.

But the main concerns are always some of those over the 33 degree ranking. In most case, some of the "global elitists" are 33 degree or higher, meaning that they know the real agenda far more than any of the other masons in the lower rankings.

And lets not overlook the fact that they have the pentagram symbol as well:

TonyVanDam said:

Which actually means nothing, really. Symbol of femininity and Christ. Whoopee.

BenaimanBawkah said:

If or when you can put a goat's head inside of any pentagram & hexagram, something is very wrong with it.

End of.

I really feel sorry for the goats. Poor things. I like goats, they are cute. Alhough I do prefer sheep, I can't deny that.


stupid spelling edit
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What have the goats done?

Timmy84 said:

In the Torah of The Tanak (Old Testament Bible)

2 goats (without blemish) were offered for a special sin offering:

1) 1 was executed

2) the other was set free as "The Scape Goat" (As interpreted from English, Latin and Greek from The Hebrew (Ibreet)


I read that this group uses the Scapegoat philosophy from this Law of Sacrifice to justify it's occult practices.

The Scapegoat probably was were the European concept of The Horned Devil with a tail comes from. The Devil image is that of a goat/Minotaur.

This group feels that Ha Satan is a misunderstood angel (Molek) who only wants man to experience the best that life has to offer (what he offered Eve (Khawah, then A-dam in The Garden of Aiden (Eden).

Al Pacino's character speech in Devil's Advocate possibly reflects this groups beliefs (and possibly Ha Satan who speaks through them---while they are playing around with this ritual.. Some of these converts probably don't believe that doing all this means anything at all.. That doing so just opens opportunities for them.)

***Parental Advisory***
***Profanity***

Al Pacino Speech on Devil's Advocate

http://www.youtube.com/wa...GR4SFOimlk

http://www.youtube.com/wa...dam7qQMkzs


YHWH is Elohim and Yahoshua is King
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Linn4days said:

I think that it is just a way to keep people (entertainers) "in-line" mostly.

Linn4days said:

And do what? What does that mean? What is the end game? Come on people, I'm too lazy to look all that up myself!

I was born the year of the goat! oh shit! I have the worst luck EVER!

TonyVanDam said:

THERE. IS. NO. GOAT. IN. THE. PENTAGRAM. YOU. POSTED.

BenaimanBawkah said:

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TonyVanDam said:

Okay, but you still posted one sans goat and made it out like there was a goat in it.

Is Bill Cosby apart of the dark order? I used to love those Pudding Pops, but I swear I felt a little devious after eating them. I think he had some kind of dark power over them.

can somebody forward this thread to Tiffany Evans. it might boost her self esteem. nowhere on the internet ever has she garnered 645 responses to anything she's ever done or said.

AnckSuNamun said:

I don't know bout that but I can't tell you how dissapointed I was when i read details of his sexual assaults on over a dozen women. Not Bill! He was the one guy I thought could maintain his image. The all american dad etc.., I personally hate when black people fuck up like that because white people have it drilled into them that Blacks are savages and they wait until episodes like this then they turn on black folks horribly.

mozfonky said:

And to think reading what Jackie Wilson might have done to Patti LeBelle was shocking!

TonyVanDam said:

yeah, but that was a little less credible in my mind. Labelle was trying to sell a book so I don't know. Jackie was spoken highly of by lots of people too including aretha franklin in her bio.

Baby The Birdman's new tattoo:

mozfonky said:

Maybe she's seen his dark side. Who knows

I would like to see to any criticism coming from people that are not deeply Christian! All the videos warning about Free Masonry, Illuminati and others, are made by Christian people/organisations. If you aren't deeply religious than these warnings aren't anything but silly. Of course its controversial to people who follow the Bible and can't see things differently, of course they warn since only "true" Christians are doing the right thing.

One video declared that Free Masons are following a pegan religion where they are introduced to different Gods and that they learn that Jesus was a prophet and not sent by God and that is why people need to be freed from Free Masonry. Is that what makes them so horrible and perhaps even Satan worshippers, because they are pegans and don't strictly follow the Bible and believe that the Christian world needs a makeover?
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VenusBlingBling said:

Thats what mystifies me too. I don't understand why go through all the trouble to assemble the rituals, controlling these people. Doesn't make any sense at all. The mystic has always fascinated me though. Recently, with the cop shootings here in seattle, the shooter went crazy according to a relative after a devil worshipper put a hex on him. I've seen crazy shit in my lifetime and really, who am I to say there's nothing to it, still I think it's all pretty wierd.
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VenusBlingBling said:

VenusBlingBling said:

Think about like THIS.....

Do you really think that Yahweh needs human beings to give him OR his laws a makeover by the use of ideas that are a direct violation of Yahweh's laws?!?

Just saying.

TonyVanDam said:

The thing is I don't believe in God or Yahweh like that! I am spiritual and open for possibilities but I don't share your faith and that is why I will never be able to really agree with you. A makeover of the church is needed. The only one who really understands and knows God's belief is God. The religions on earth are organised by human beings who all interpret God in their way. I don't know what Yahweh's laws really are. I can just live according to the "rules" I feel are right.

VenusBlingBling said:

Fair enough.