this thread is getting interesting

SoulAlive said:

Very. I read the Luther book so a few things are obvious lol

scriptgirl said:

Here's a little something regarding him and En Vogue:

"Things got so bad on tour with En Vogue, that a curtain was put up to separate them and Luther. While on tour in Miami, Luther saw that a member of En Vogue had wandered over to "his side" of the drawn curtain. His temper hit full-tilt and he "actually" called the Miami police to demand the group be charged with trespassing."



http://panachereport.com/...rFeuds.htm

^Thanks for posting. My aunt got me into that site, so much information.

Okay despite that big quote earlier, there's still no reason or examples give as to why he didn't get along w/ En Vogue, nor what the root of the Anita thing was about. The quotes kept saying "things better left unsaid" sort of nonsense. That's not a story, that's side stepping thing. We want the dirt!

blessedk said:

When she was in the group The Braxtons they opened up for him in the 90's and we all know that Toni is a known bitch in the industry so it's no surprise they bumped heads but eventually they stopped being the supporting act at his shows. I love Luther but he was just so picky and a true prima donna

Since when is Toni known as a bitch? I never heard that?

Shiningstarr26 said:

Wow! That tour sounds like it was a disaster behind the scenes.

scriptgirl said:

Since the success of her sophomore album

scriptgirl said:

Just because he had issues with her, doesn't make her the bitch. The common denominator is Luther, not everyone else.

Harlepolis said:

silverchild said:

If Aretha is argumentative and confrontational with her audiences, I can easily see her being a straight bitch in a studio. The stories about her during Divas Live are classic! She ain't no shrinking violet.

scriptgirl said:

For real I've heard very nice things about her.

Toni ain't a bitch. LUTHER was.

Known bitch my foot.

Let's not get it twisted.
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Luther toured with Boys II Men in the 90s,and he had problems with them,too I know someone who was backstage during this tour,and she told me that Luther was "cussing them out" about one thing or another He was pissed.

What happened during divas live and what is this about Aretha confronting her audience?

SoulAlive said:

LORD!

Didn't he like Roberta Flack?

Timmy84 said:

Yea, you don't know. Toni was very big-headed (she probably changed now) but during her success in the 90's she was a bitch.

vainandy said:

Yes, Roberta Flack was the reason why he finally got a recording deal. I don't know if it was the '70s or before his solo debut, but he got a deal after Roberta said "you sound too good to be singing backup for me." Roberta used to say Lutha reminded her of Donny.

midiscover said:

Change that you to "we". A lot of us didn't know, lol. We've heard it from Aretha, Luther, Diana and Millie, lol

Timmy84 said:

Heard what?

midiscover said:

Examples and sources please.

midiscover said:

That they had attitude problems, lol

SCNDLS said:

Yeah exactly, lol

SCNDLS said:

WTF you mean sources? Everyone is writing I heard this, I heard that

I don't know if labeling Toni a "bitch" is appropriate but she did have issues with quite few producers, specifically R. Kelly

midiscover said:

Ummm, no people are actually posting excerpts from books/articles in addition to the MANY Luther stories that were in fact widely "known." You said this was "known" about Toni, which is vague as all hell, you haven't described any incidents, and no one thusfar has heard such a thing. If it was that widely "known" there should be stories or articles floating around that you can point to.

trueiopian said:

That's not saying much.

An artist having artistic differences with a producer doesn't make them a bitch IMO. How they interact with their colleagues, employees, and the public say a lot more to me. Plus anybody can have a bad day, but if acting like a "bitch" or "diva" is their standard way of behaving that tells me a lot about their personality.

SCNDLS said:

Maybe, calling her a "bitch" hurt some people's feelings, I apologize, but from what I heard from those that worked with her in the studio, she's rigid