errant said:

Donna. That's the one I'm on the lookout for.

scriptgirl said:

No, she's not and Prince is already in the HOF!!

I know P is in the hall of fame already.

When will GNR be eligible? Is Run DMC in?

scriptgirl said:

2012 for GNR and Run DMC were inducted this year, yes.

Ellie said:

In fairness, ABBA used to have the same marketing problems in the 70's as Kylie Minogue did in the 90's.

It absolutely blows me away that the rest of The Miracles are not in the Hall of Fame.

The list of Motown acts in the Hall of Fame that did not write their own material and had less than half the chart hits this band did is endless. These guys and gal FOUNDED Motown with Berry, and cowrote more than half of all the Miracles original material along with Smokey.

Clearly Smokey was the King, but the Miracles were an immensely talented court. Almost all of the Miracles biggest chart songs were co-written by a member of the band with Smoke.

Beyond that, look up the credits for songs like the Temptations My Girl, and The Way You Do the Things You Do, Marvin Gaye's I'll Be Doggone and Ain't That Pecular, Mary Wells You Beat Me To The Punch, (the list goes on and on). These songs were not just Smokey comps. The other Miracles helped him write these tunes as well.

Not only is it absolutely incomprehensible that they are not in, they should be first ballot worthy.

In the end, I really don't think the Hall Of Fame is THAT big of a deal. But if you're gonna create something in an effort to honor achievements in popular music, you've got to invite one of the most influential pop rock bands to walk the earth to the party don't you?

Crazy....

Artists that should get in.....

Genesis
Jimmy Cliff
The Stooges
LL Cool J
Donna Summer

My take on ABBA, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Kiss?


ABBA--I don't think their wild popularity warrants them getting in just yet...There are others that deserve a nod before them, namely Rush, Chic, The Cars, and Stevie Ray Vaughn....I just can't see it...

KISS---I'm torn with Kiss...Truth me told, they made better songs than critics have given them credit for...But Gene Simnmon's constant blatant Kiss commercialization (when they came out with the Kiss tampons, that was it for me) hurts their chances...And yeah, the fact that their career has been based on a gimmick (a cool gimmick nonetheless) also hurts Paul and the guys...

Red Hot Chili Peppers---One of my favorites...But it's much too early for them to get a nod...Two years from now, they will have my vote...

Fenwick said:

Unfortunately due to Smokey being inducted as a "performer" in 1987, the Miracles probably won't ever get in. But it's not too late for Mary Wells, the Marvelettes and a solo Diana Ross to get inductions.

murph said:

Forget about tampons, the KISS coffins were the most over the top items ever. And those same coffins also worked as ice coolers (classic WTF moment, mind you)!

They should just change it to Music Hall of Fame. Since rock nowadays mean White male banging his head with a guitar.

why no Hall and Oates yet?

Flowerpower said:

Technically it's been that way since 1986, lol

Rock & roll means different things to everybody. I wouldn't just call it "guitar driven" just because guitars replaced saxophones as rock's main instrument. Rock & roll also meant "having sex" in the forties before it became the name of the "new sound of music" coming around 1954 and back then saxophones dominated "rock" recordings. After Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley and the Beatles came, however, that changed.

doegx said:

They never get no respect. But I think the Hall of Fame committee is just slow, lol

Timmy84 said:

I agree but some people still think that Rock n Roll is a White Man area. They should just change it to Impact in Music Hall of Fame. Because there alot of one-hit wonders in there or people we don't even know.All those people deserve to get in but of course there not your typical Rolling Stone band.

Flowerpower said:

That is true.

Timmy84 said:

Well I don't really think that its a "white man area", I just think that the groups that have recently started to be inducted aren't rock n rollers. I'm not saying they don't deserve credit, but not in the RnR hall of fame. I agree though change the name or be true to what RnR is/was. Cause while I like ABBA they are NOT rock n roll.

lazycrockett said:

I agree but what is Rock N Roll because I don't think the supremes were either but there in.

I think it's to do with the "Rock N Roll era" that started in the 1950s. All the Jazz and Big Band singers and musicians from before that aren't in, are they? Unless you count some Blues musicians, but they transcended the era.

lazycrockett said:

ABBA may not be "rock and roll" as I guess some people may think, but they're important to popular music. And I think that's really what the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame symbolizes at the end of the day.

midiscover said:

Donna is indeed a legend.

Fenwick said:

Yeah,it's a shame that the Miracles aren't in there I even like the albums they did after Smokey left the group.

I would love if Donna Summer got in. Genesis should be a lock but who knows. Might be too commercial for their taste.


I think the locks are RCHP, The Stooges and maybe LL Cool J. It seems like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is all about being hip, which makes no fucking sense! It should be legends. RCHP....for their first album? How about when they made their first relevant album? Then we'll talk.

Howard Stern announced this list on the air and kept gripping about the Moody Blues never getting in. Doesn't he have a point?

trueiopian said:

Who is Donna Summers? There is only one!

marto said:

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In terms of 'influence' i would say Abba and Kiss definitely belong in the hall of fame, no matter how much i personally dislike their music.. lol

The way Abba 'handled' different styles and song-formats, was of huge influence on the 'producers pop' of the eighties and nineties (Stock, Aitken, Waterman, those swedish guys who produced the Backstreet Boys and early Britney Spears, etc.) and on MOR-music in general.
Maybe not the most 'tastefull' influence, but in terms of (their influence on) record sales (by other producers) they are hardly to be ignored.

Kiss made very stereotypical, almost cartoon-like glamrock / hard-rock and, wether you like it or not, lots of eighties 'hair-metal' owes a big deal to them.

When it comes to the remaining names, I would like to say that i was surprised the Hollies werent in the hall of fame allready, that the stooges really belong in there as one of the 'forefathers' of punk and that Donna Summer (despite her lack of succes later on) belongs in their because of her role in the heighdays of the disco-movement.
Maybe Genesis should make one or two great prog-rock albums again first, before they 'deserve it' (I mean, all those years of MOR-pop with Phil Collins as a frontman should not really count, shouldnt it? lol).
And, i agree that for the Red Hot Chili Peppers it seems to come a bit too early. Maybe after 5 years or so.

VinnyM27 said:

Back in the 70s,alot of people mistakenly referred to her as "Donna Summers".There's even an episode of 'Good Times' where Michael mentions "that new album by Donna Summers"....lol....wtf? People also used to get her mixed up with Diana Ross...

"Hey,did you hear that great new song by Diana Summers?"


that shit used to drive me crazy!

SoulAlive said:

That's just insane, lol