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Why isn't Kylie Minogue a superstar in America? Especially when she is in other places. I mean, she has broken through briefly-once in the late 80s and then again, 7 years ago, but she just can't seem to become huge here. Is it because she doesn't want to? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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No, her music is not popular in this market. | |
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She does Europop music. | |
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And how is that different from American pop music? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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The American mainstream doesn't embrace pure dance music. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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scriptgirl said: And how is that different from American pop music?
American pop now = Miley Cyrus, hip-pop, Rihanna, Disney, "emo rock" Europop = techno, electronic, frenetic dance reminiscent of disco, but it's "too fast" for the US market and "not profitable" unless it features a "rapper" on it. | |
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scriptgirl said: And how is that different from American pop music?
Europop is electronica (music you would rave to ) influenced while American pop isn't. | |
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different style,
when she debuted she was competing with Debbie Gibson and Tiffany so we picked home girls over the foreigner too gay friendly for mainstream america. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis | |
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ehuffnsd said: different style,
when she debuted she was competing with Debbie Gibson and Tiffany so we picked home girls over the foreigner too gay friendly for mainstream america. That too. | |
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Timmy84 said: ehuffnsd said: different style,
when she debuted she was competing with Debbie Gibson and Tiffany so we picked home girls over the foreigner too gay friendly for mainstream america. That too. you can spot the Americans who post on her concert videos on youtube... it's kinda sad. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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What do you mean you can spot Americans who post her vids on youtube? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: What do you mean you can spot Americans who post her vids on youtube?
why are those guys wearing high heels that's so gross.... eeww... those guys are making out behind her that's sick those guys are dancing with each other. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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It's very simple. Neighbours was not big in America. She's only big in countries where Neighbours was big. If you don't know about Neighbours, Wikipedia should fill you in. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Timmy84 said: scriptgirl said: And how is that different from American pop music?
American pop now = Miley Cyrus, hip-pop, Rihanna, Disney, "emo rock" .... "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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ehuffnsd said: too gay friendly for mainstream america.
*DING DING DING* And there you have it, ladies & gentlemen,,,,the invisible pink elephant | |
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Because she's no good,yes she's made few decent singles & has a nice ass for a white chick. | |
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She has a meat-beatingly stunning ass. We need pictures. | |
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scriptgirl said: Especially when she is in other places. I mean, she has broken through briefly-once in the late 80s and then again, 7 years ago, but she just can't seem to become huge here. Is it because she doesn't want to?
In all fairness to Kylie, Loco Motion, I Can't Get You Out Of My Head, & Love At First Site (USA mix) were THE only 3 singles that were major career hits in the USA. I Should Be So Lucky & It's No Secret was also a minor hits. As for the reason why Kylie never became a superstar in mainstream America, I can answer that in THREE WORDS: Madonna. and. Janet. | |
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Moonbeam said: The American mainstream doesn't embrace pure dance music.
Sad but true. By 1995, pure club dance music was defeated by the gangsta style of hip-hop/rap on mainstream radio. Hip-house, Chicago house, Detroit techno, and Latin freestyle were all defeated as well. Till this day, I think THIS^ was far worse than the "death" of The Funk or disco. | |
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I wouldn´t say she´s a superstar in Europe either. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Timmy84 said: scriptgirl said: And how is that different from American pop music?
American pop now = Miley Cyrus, hip-pop, Rihanna, Disney, "emo rock", Illuminati-driven shit-hop/rhythmless bullshit (r&b) Europop = techno, electronic, frenetic dance reminiscent of disco, but it's "too fast" for the US market and "not profitable" unless it features a "rapper" on it. Fixed! | |
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EDIT double post [Edited 9/21/09 7:48am] | |
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ehuffnsd said: different style,
when she debuted she was competing with Debbie Gibson and Tiffany so we picked home girls over the foreigner too gay friendly for mainstream america. Exactly. Deborah Gibson was a big draw within her generation at the time. Kylie couldn't break even. And yes, the red states couldn't handle Kylie's gay-friendly party atmosphere. | |
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ehuffnsd said: too gay friendly for mainstream america.
I don't think it's being "gay friendly" per se... I mean, look at Madonna. I think it's more to do with her embracing camp - much moreso than any comparable act. The Brits understand camp implicity. It's ingrained within us, from an early age. | |
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GirlBrother said: ehuffnsd said: too gay friendly for mainstream america.
I don't think it's being "gay friendly" per se... I mean, look at Madonna. I think it's more to do with her embracing camp - much moreso than any comparable act. The Brits understand camp implicity. It's ingrained within us, from an early age. Kylie is more overt in gayness than Madonna has been in a very long time. The last time Madge was openly as gay friendly as Kylie is now was 93. Madge has even gone to using mostly straight male dancers. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: GirlBrother said: I don't think it's being "gay friendly" per se... I mean, look at Madonna. I think it's more to do with her embracing camp - much moreso than any comparable act. The Brits understand camp implicity. It's ingrained within us, from an early age. Kylie is more overt in gayness than Madonna has been in a very long time. The last time Madge was openly as gay friendly as Kylie is now was 93. Madge has even gone to using mostly straight male dancers. Well she's plowed her way through most of the gay ones; they need a break from her. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Kylie is more overt in gayness than Madonna has been in a very long time. The last time Madge was openly as gay friendly as Kylie is now was 93. Madge has even gone to using mostly straight male dancers.
Yeah, I'm aware of that. However, to many straight people, if you're a man whom admits to being a Madonna fan, you may as well wave a rainbow flag in one hand and a butt plug in the other. The perception remains that Madonna is a gay-friendly act - and this isn't exactly untrue. Kylie (and Capitol records) have made mistakes. She should have toured the U.S. soon after the success of the Fever album. The delay in releasing the X album in the U.S. was inexplicable. The choice of 'All I See' as a single was misguided and her performances of the song on U.S. television were weak. | |
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GirlBrother said: ehuffnsd said: Kylie is more overt in gayness than Madonna has been in a very long time. The last time Madge was openly as gay friendly as Kylie is now was 93. Madge has even gone to using mostly straight male dancers.
Yeah, I'm aware of that. However, to many straight people, if you're a man whom admits to being a Madonna fan, you may as well wave a rainbow flag in one hand and a butt plug in the other. The perception remains that Madonna is a gay-friendly act - and this isn't exactly untrue. Kylie (and Capitol records) have made mistakes. She should have toured the U.S. soon after the success of the Fever album. The delay in releasing the X album in the U.S. was inexplicable. The choice of 'All I See' as a single was misguided and her performances of the song on U.S. television were weak. Secret (Take You Home) Should have been the lead single for Body Langauge and she did tour the US she did some of those KISS FM Christmas parties around 2002 using Locomotion, fever version, Love At First Sight, In Your Eyes, and Can't Get You Out of My Head and a couple club dates for Slow. and yes Kylie was flat last year on her TV Promo, but she didn't want to do them. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Because we already have Madonna. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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