JackieBlue said: daPrettyman said: Not at all. I blame him and JD for delivering such a horrible Rock With U tour. You gave me flashbacks. Gil should find out which direction JD went and follow him. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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I bet he be gone by next year, lol | |
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VoicesCarry said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: let's hope janet will do michael justice. Hopefully it won't be an embarassment like the superbowl was. I'd prefer she lipsych...her singing live and her singing michael's songs live is scary.
She is doing Scream - her song as much as Michael's. what other mj songs is she doing? | |
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Janet sounds live exactly the way she sounds in the studio which is why sometimes you think she is lipsynching and she's not. Go check out those Fame videos. Especially when she starts singing the Jackson 5 song. | |
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BklynBabe said: Janet sounds live exactly the way she sounds in the studio which is why sometimes you think she is lipsynching and she's not. Go check out those Fame videos. Especially when she starts singing the Jackson 5 song.
i'm not a fan of her voice as a singer. that's no need to explain urself. | |
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I totally have to work and gonna have to catch a replay 12/05/2011
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: VoicesCarry said: She is doing Scream - her song as much as Michael's. what other mj songs is she doing? From what I know, that's it. There are certainly a few of her own songs that would be appropriate - Together Again the primary candidate. [Edited 9/8/09 12:24pm] | |
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Michael would be proud - he was always so proud of Janet - so for her, and all those choreographers that Michael discovered, worked with and inspired to dance in the essence of his eternal remembrance and legacy...that's really special. | |
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I don't know why, but I get the feeling that this will NOT be so much about Janet, but more about MJ's influence on dance. I can also see this being similar to the tribute that MTV did to Janet during the Icon tribute where Pink, Usher and Mya danced to Janet's music. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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midiscover said: daPrettyman said: I didn't think the choreography for "All Night" was that great either. Therefore, he should have never been hired. His choreography is always too much starting and stopping. People like Tina, Wade, etc. always have movement and flow, Gil doesn't have that. Too many leg movements! I agree. Gil has very sharp and on point dance moves. With his dancing, he will mostly have you hit the accent points in the song. Bringing Tina back would be amazing, but Gil is amazing also. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: midiscover said: Too many leg movements! I agree. Gil has very sharp and on point dance moves. With his dancing, he will mostly have you hit the accent points in the song. Bringing Tina back would be amazing, but Gil is amazing also. I think my issue with Gil's choreography is that he doesn't know how to be "street". **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: ViintageJunkiie said: I agree. Gil has very sharp and on point dance moves. With his dancing, he will mostly have you hit the accent points in the song. Bringing Tina back would be amazing, but Gil is amazing also. I think my issue with Gil's choreography is that he doesn't know how to be "street". well, how do you define "street"? | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: daPrettyman said: I think my issue with Gil's choreography is that he doesn't know how to be "street". well, how do you define "street"? It's hard to define. It's an edge that you don't get from a technically trained dancer. If you look at Janet's work prior to Gil, you will see something that had a certain flair. The flair was somewhat hip-hop from the streets, somewhat b-boy, somewhat sensual, somewhat technical. To me, videos like "Alright", "If", "When I Think Of You", etc. had moves and choreography that was relatable on so many different levels. The choreography for ANDS lost that to me. Another example would be the choreography for "Feedback". That song had funky written all over it and Gil gave us Janet rolling all over the floor and moving like a robotic doll. Not good at all. Does that make sense? [Edited 9/8/09 13:30pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Gil uses to many spirit fingers (Britney?) in his routines | |
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midiscover said: Gil uses to many spirit fingers (Britney?) in his routines
I never really noticed it, but you are right. His stuff is almost like the typical suburban dance teacher trying to teach a 10 year old how to dance hip-hop. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: ViintageJunkiie said: well, how do you define "street"? It's hard to define. It's an edge that you don't get from a technically trained dancer. If you look at Janet's work prior to Gil, you will see something that had a certain flair. The flair was somewhat hip-hop from the streets, somewhat b-boy, somewhat sensual, somewhat technical. To me, videos like "Alright", "If", "When I Think Of You", etc. had moves and choreography that was relatable on so many different levels. The choreography for ANDS lost that to me. Another example would be the choreography for "Feedback". That song had funky written all over it and Gil gave us Janet rolling all over the floor and moving like a robotic doll. Not good at all. Does that make sense? [Edited 9/8/09 13:30pm] True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: let's hope janet will do michael justice. Hopefully it won't be an embarassment like the superbowl was. I'd prefer she lipsych...her singing live and her singing michael's songs live is scary.
As long as Justin Timberlake isn't there, ripping off a lady's clothing a little too hard, it will be fine. Beware of Justin Timberlake! | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: let's hope janet will do michael justice. Hopefully it won't be an embarassment like the superbowl was. I'd prefer she lipsych...her singing live and her singing michael's songs live is scary.
Janet sounds very similar to Michael, and Scream was both Janet and Michael's song. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Michael would be proud - he was always so proud of Janet - so for her, and all those choreographers that Michael discovered, worked with and inspired to dance in the essence of his eternal remembrance and legacy...that's really special.
Yes. Michael was always proud of Janet. Michael knew that Janet was also an amazing talente. He always felt a special connection to her. Michael said that they think alike and are very similar, and I agree. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: daPrettyman said: It's hard to define. It's an edge that you don't get from a technically trained dancer. If you look at Janet's work prior to Gil, you will see something that had a certain flair. The flair was somewhat hip-hop from the streets, somewhat b-boy, somewhat sensual, somewhat technical. To me, videos like "Alright", "If", "When I Think Of You", etc. had moves and choreography that was relatable on so many different levels. The choreography for ANDS lost that to me. Another example would be the choreography for "Feedback". That song had funky written all over it and Gil gave us Janet rolling all over the floor and moving like a robotic doll. Not good at all. Does that make sense? [Edited 9/8/09 13:30pm] True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also He didn't choreograph the Rock withu video. That was Tony Testa. Paula Abdul = Too many levels | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: BklynBabe said: Janet sounds live exactly the way she sounds in the studio which is why sometimes you think she is lipsynching and she's not. Go check out those Fame videos. Especially when she starts singing the Jackson 5 song.
i'm not a fan of her voice as a singer. that's no need to explain urself. Really? I lOVE Janet's voice. It's soothing yet silky smooth with an edge. Janet's voice is very beautiful, without too much screaming or roughness. Janet sounds like an Angel. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: daPrettyman said: It's hard to define. It's an edge that you don't get from a technically trained dancer. If you look at Janet's work prior to Gil, you will see something that had a certain flair. The flair was somewhat hip-hop from the streets, somewhat b-boy, somewhat sensual, somewhat technical. To me, videos like "Alright", "If", "When I Think Of You", etc. had moves and choreography that was relatable on so many different levels. The choreography for ANDS lost that to me. Another example would be the choreography for "Feedback". That song had funky written all over it and Gil gave us Janet rolling all over the floor and moving like a robotic doll. Not good at all. Does that make sense? [Edited 9/8/09 13:30pm] True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also I totally get that each choreographer has their own style and tecnhique, but, imo, "Feedback" was the worst so far. You have to admit that the dancing with milk bubbles and crawling on the floor did not fit with the song. That aside, I do think that "Rock witchu" was good. To me, Paula is credited with defining J as a dancer, but Anthony Thomas and Tina are the ones who created her most memorable routines. People will forever associate their choreography with Janet's image. Same for MJ. Jeffrey Daniels and Michael Peters aren't given as much credit as they should be for MJ's dancing styles. If it had not been for them, we never would have gotten the moonwalk or any of the iconic videos . Sure, MJ may have assisted in the choreography, but those guys refined what he did. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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midiscover said: ViintageJunkiie said: True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also He didn't choreograph the Rock withu video. That was Tony Testa. Paula Abdul = Too many levels Really? NO wonder it was good. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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midiscover said: ViintageJunkiie said: True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also He didn't choreograph the Rock withu video. That was Tony Testa. Paula Abdul = Too many levels I stand corrected. | |
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daPrettyman said: midiscover said: He didn't choreograph the Rock withu video. That was Tony Testa. Paula Abdul = Too many levels Really? NO wonder it was good. Hell yea! Tony Testa is sooo hott! His choreography is very unique! I hope Janet works with him more [Edited 9/8/09 14:11pm] | |
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daPrettyman said: ViintageJunkiie said: True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also I totally get that each choreographer has their own style and tecnhique, but, imo, "Feedback" was the worst so far. You have to admit that the dancing with milk bubbles and crawling on the floor did not fit with the song. That aside, I do think that "Rock witchu" was good. To me, Paula is credited with defining J as a dancer, but Anthony Thomas and Tina are the ones who created her most memorable routines. People will forever associate their choreography with Janet's image. Same for MJ. Jeffrey Daniels and Michael Peters aren't given as much credit as they should be for MJ's dancing styles. If it had not been for them, we never would have gotten the moonwalk or any of the iconic videos . Sure, MJ may have assisted in the choreography, but those guys refined what he did. Well, you can't blame Gil for the "dancing with milk", which I thought was pretty pointless. I agree, I think Paula gave Janet the style of dancing and Tina took it to another level in a way. Like, I couldnt see Paula doing the choreography to "If" and I couldnt see Tina doing choreography for "Nasty". | |
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daPrettyman said: ViintageJunkiie said: True, but each choreographer has a different technique. Her work prior to him was with Paula and Tina and I think Paulas choreography surpassed the others. As far as feedback goes, I think Gils routine fit the song. Like I said, Gil's technique involves hitting all accept marks in a song, which is what he did in that, along with "Rock Witchu" video also I totally get that each choreographer has their own style and tecnhique, but, imo, "Feedback" was the worst so far. You have to admit that the dancing with milk bubbles and crawling on the floor did not fit with the song. That aside, I do think that "Rock witchu" was good. To me, Paula is credited with defining J as a dancer, but Anthony Thomas and Tina are the ones who created her most memorable routines. People will forever associate their choreography with Janet's image. Same for MJ. Jeffrey Daniels and Michael Peters aren't given as much credit as they should be for MJ's dancing styles. If it had not been for them, we never would have gotten the moonwalk or any of the iconic videos . Sure, MJ may have assisted in the choreography, but those guys refined what he did. Um Janet co-choreographs all of her dances as well and Paula didn't define Janet as a dancer. Janet choreographed this | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: daPrettyman said: I totally get that each choreographer has their own style and tecnhique, but, imo, "Feedback" was the worst so far. You have to admit that the dancing with milk bubbles and crawling on the floor did not fit with the song. That aside, I do think that "Rock witchu" was good. To me, Paula is credited with defining J as a dancer, but Anthony Thomas and Tina are the ones who created her most memorable routines. People will forever associate their choreography with Janet's image. Same for MJ. Jeffrey Daniels and Michael Peters aren't given as much credit as they should be for MJ's dancing styles. If it had not been for them, we never would have gotten the moonwalk or any of the iconic videos . Sure, MJ may have assisted in the choreography, but those guys refined what he did. Well, you can't blame Gil for the "dancing with milk", which I thought was pretty pointless. I agree, I think Paula gave Janet the style of dancing and Tina took it to another level in a way. Like, I couldnt see Paula doing the choreography to "If" and I couldnt see Tina doing choreography for "Nasty". What do you think about Anthony's work? He was the principal choreography during the RN era. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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midiscover said: daPrettyman said: I totally get that each choreographer has their own style and tecnhique, but, imo, "Feedback" was the worst so far. You have to admit that the dancing with milk bubbles and crawling on the floor did not fit with the song. That aside, I do think that "Rock witchu" was good. To me, Paula is credited with defining J as a dancer, but Anthony Thomas and Tina are the ones who created her most memorable routines. People will forever associate their choreography with Janet's image. Same for MJ. Jeffrey Daniels and Michael Peters aren't given as much credit as they should be for MJ's dancing styles. If it had not been for them, we never would have gotten the moonwalk or any of the iconic videos . Sure, MJ may have assisted in the choreography, but those guys refined what he did. Um Janet co-choreographs all of her dances as well and Paula didn't define Janet as a dancer. Janet choreographed this How can u say that? Sure, Janet may be a co-choreographer, but I know she couldn't have come up with something as technical as the "If" routine. When I look at the Control videos, all I see is Paula. Not saying Janet didn't do any of the choreography, but the attitude, moves, "pops", etc. are all Paula. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: midiscover said: Um Janet co-choreographs all of her dances as well and Paula didn't define Janet as a dancer. Janet choreographed this How can u say that? Sure, Janet may be a co-choreographer, but I know she couldn't have come up with something as technical as the "If" routine. When I look at the Control videos, all I see is Paula. Not saying Janet didn't do any of the choreography, but the attitude, moves, "pops", etc. are all Paula. Darling Janet co-choreographed "If" as well. Not all of her dance moves are created by other choreographers! And yes. Paula did create most of Janet's memorable moves. But has she moved on? Apparently not. Heres's Paula giving us Control with a little touch of Rock with u attire (Stupid bitch!) Besides most of Janet's most memorable dancing was from RN814. Which Paula took no part in. Janet was the head choreographer along with Anthony Thomas. | |
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