ehuffnsd said: Timmy84 said: I think with some celebrities, people feel releasing information so soon stops the media's story of reporting about how these people live their lives and how they got involved with the dead celebrity (reminds me of Anna Nicole). But with random folks or marginally famous folks (like E. Lynn Harris and Billy Mays), you hear about what kill them least a week or two later. It's been about eight-to-ten weeks almost since we wonder what in fact killed MJ. In fact, an AP report said that it would be difficult to press charges against one doctor for a drug because the source believed MJ had other drugs (besides Xanax) in his system and it would be difficult to investigate. I think people are just wasting their time building a case that may have already been destroyed. it hasn't been destroyed. and they will release it after they arrest Dr Murray. IF they arrest him: Jackson's doctor 'left room after sedation' (AFP) – 5 hours ago LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's personal doctor Conrad Murray left the room the morning the "King of Pop" died after administering the singer a powerful sedative, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday. Murray, 51, is identified in court records as a suspect in a Los Angeles police department manslaughter investigation, the newspaper reported, citing three people familiar with the investigation. Jackson died in Los Angeles on June 25 at age 50 from an apparent cardiac arrest. Murray had legally obtained a powerful drug, Propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, the unnamed sources told the Times. The drug is usually reserved for use in operating rooms. Murray, who began working as Jackson's personal doctor in May, acknowledged to police two days after the singer's death that he obtained and repeatedly gave Jackson the medicine. One law enforcement source told the newspaper that Jackson had been taking the drug as a sleep aid on and off for a decade. Murray, who insists he did nothing wrong, told police that he had not faced any problems with the drug and felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to step out to make calls on his cellphone, the sources told the newspaper. According to the Times, it's unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson's bedroom. When the doctor did return, Jackson had stopped breathing, so he performed CPR on the singer, while another person called for emergency help. Paramedics rushed the pop star to the UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead. The Times reported that there may not be enough evidence to charge Murray with manslaughter because other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson's body along with a small amount of Propofol. The Los Angeles County coroner's office said Monday it had completed a "thorough and comprehensive" autopsy of Michael Jackson but would not release the report, including long-awaited toxicology results, until police complete their investigation. Los Angeles Police Department said it had requested that "the cause and manner of death remain confidential" and also asked that an existing security hold on the results of the coroner's investigation remain in place. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents on Tuesday raided a Las Vegas pharmacy looking for evidence that Murray bought powerful drugs there. The DEA searched the pharmacy for documents, computer hard drives, prescriptions and shipping information of controlled substances that Murray may have administered to Jackson, entertainment website TMZ.com reported. The raid came two weeks after all-day searches at Murray's Las Vegas home and office. Copyright © 2009 AFP. All rights reserved. | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Timmy84 said: His "real voice" was heard during the Super Bowl, the World Music Awards '06 and the final press conference. Ahh..not to much different though. Well it ain't like they said his voice was like Barry White's. Also he showed it on the intro to "You Rock My World". | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: Ahh..not to much different though. Well it ain't like they said his voice was like Barry White's. Also he showed it on the intro to "You Rock My World". Well I know it would'nt have been that deep! That would have been to freaky. Wasn't that his regular voice in the beginning of Thriller? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: Ahh..not to much different though. Well it ain't like they said his voice was like Barry White's. Also he showed it on the intro to "You Rock My World". That's a Perfect example of his "real voice" | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Timmy84 said: Well it ain't like they said his voice was like Barry White's. Also he showed it on the intro to "You Rock My World". Well I know it would'nt have been that deep! That would have been to freaky. Wasn't that his regular voice in the beginning of Thriller? Yeah, lol | |
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Arrest His ass already....Shady as hell. Michael Jackson's doctor left singer alone after giving him powerful drug sources say August 13, 2009 | 6:00 am Michael Jackson smiles for cameras at the announcement of nominations for the 1995 MTV Video Awards on July 25. Jackson's video for "Scream'' was nominated for 11 awards that year. Michael Jackson’s personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation. By the time he returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said. Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug, propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation is ongoing. In an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson’s death, Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication, the sources said. He reportedly told police that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion in the early hours of June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal but was unable to sleep. Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson doses of the drug repeatedly since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said. The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that because there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to place calls on his cellphone, the sources said. It’s unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson’s bedroom. When Murray returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR on Jackson, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m. Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked Wednesday about the version of events outlined by the sources, the lawyer said: “I’m not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story.” Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in a bedroom. Investigators pursuing the case have focused on whether Murray’s use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone rose to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge. The Los Angeles County coroner’s office has concluded its investigation into Jackson’s death but, at the request of the LAPD, has not released its findings. Evidence gathered during the investigation suggests that the propofol admission alone might not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter. Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson’s system along with a limited amount of propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs without a massive amount of propofol could complicate any prosecution. The other drugs may have amplified the effect of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson’s breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson’s history of drug addiction and his prior use of propofol in particular. In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray did not realize what he was signing up for when he agreed to become Jackson’s doctor. “When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from,” Chernoff said. But after relocating to Los Angeles, “he realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems,” the lawyer said. Chernoff criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of death. “From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray,” the lawyer said. He said it was evident from their searches of Murray’s properties in Las Vegas and Houston that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in the death. Investigators were looking for evidence that the doctor prescribed Jackson the other medications, he said. “I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard,” he said. Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD with the aid of the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several have had records subpoenaed by the coroner’s office, Murray is the only one to be publicly identified as a suspect. Dmitry Gorin, a defense lawyer who was a deputy district attorney, said that to prove involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors would have to show that Murray’s conduct was reckless to the point that no reasonable physician would consider such a course of treatment. “They’d use medical experts to show that the lack of monitoring equipment, lack of staff and leaving the room was so beyond the pale of what a professional would do,” Gorin said. -- Harriet Ryan, Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein [Edited 8/13/09 13:42pm] MICHAEL JACKSON
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Timmy84 said: ehuffnsd said: it hasn't been destroyed. and they will release it after they arrest Dr Murray. IF they arrest him: Jackson's doctor 'left room after sedation' (AFP) – 5 hours ago LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's personal doctor Conrad Murray left the room the morning the "King of Pop" died after administering the singer a powerful sedative, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday. Murray, 51, is identified in court records as a suspect in a Los Angeles police department manslaughter investigation, the newspaper reported, citing three people familiar with the investigation. Jackson died in Los Angeles on June 25 at age 50 from an apparent cardiac arrest. Murray had legally obtained a powerful drug, Propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, the unnamed sources told the Times. The drug is usually reserved for use in operating rooms. Murray, who began working as Jackson's personal doctor in May, acknowledged to police two days after the singer's death that he obtained and repeatedly gave Jackson the medicine. One law enforcement source told the newspaper that Jackson had been taking the drug as a sleep aid on and off for a decade. Murray, who insists he did nothing wrong, told police that he had not faced any problems with the drug and felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to step out to make calls on his cellphone, the sources told the newspaper. According to the Times, it's unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson's bedroom. When the doctor did return, Jackson had stopped breathing, so he performed CPR on the singer, while another person called for emergency help. Paramedics rushed the pop star to the UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead. The Times reported that there may not be enough evidence to charge Murray with manslaughter because other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson's body along with a small amount of Propofol. The Los Angeles County coroner's office said Monday it had completed a "thorough and comprehensive" autopsy of Michael Jackson but would not release the report, including long-awaited toxicology results, until police complete their investigation. Los Angeles Police Department said it had requested that "the cause and manner of death remain confidential" and also asked that an existing security hold on the results of the coroner's investigation remain in place. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents on Tuesday raided a Las Vegas pharmacy looking for evidence that Murray bought powerful drugs there. The DEA searched the pharmacy for documents, computer hard drives, prescriptions and shipping information of controlled substances that Murray may have administered to Jackson, entertainment website TMZ.com reported. The raid came two weeks after all-day searches at Murray's Las Vegas home and office. Copyright © 2009 AFP. All rights reserved. it was a YEAR after Anna Nicole died that they arrested Howard K Stern. would you rather they have an airtight case or something with holes you can drive semi's through? [Edited 8/13/09 13:43pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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seeingvoices12 said: The mockery continues
Arrest His ass already....Shady as hell. Michael Jackson's doctor left singer alone after giving him powerful drug sources say August 13, 2009 | 6:00 am Michael Jackson smiles for cameras at the announcement of nominations for the 1995 MTV Video Awards on July 25. Jackson's video for "Scream'' was nominated for 11 awards that year. Michael Jackson’s personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation. By the time he returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said. Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug, propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation is ongoing. In an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson’s death, Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication, the sources said. He reportedly told police that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion in the early hours of June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal but was unable to sleep. Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson doses of the drug repeatedly since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said. The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that because there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to place calls on his cellphone, the sources said. It’s unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson’s bedroom. When Murray returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR on Jackson, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m. Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked Wednesday about the version of events outlined by the sources, the lawyer said: “I’m not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story.” Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in a bedroom. Investigators pursuing the case have focused on whether Murray’s use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone rose to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge. The Los Angeles County coroner’s office has concluded its investigation into Jackson’s death but, at the request of the LAPD, has not released its findings. Evidence gathered during the investigation suggests that the propofol admission alone might not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter. Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson’s system along with a limited amount of propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs without a massive amount of propofol could complicate any prosecution. The other drugs may have amplified the effect of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson’s breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson’s history of drug addiction and his prior use of propofol in particular. In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray did not realize what he was signing up for when he agreed to become Jackson’s doctor. “When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from,” Chernoff said. But after relocating to Los Angeles, “he realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems,” the lawyer said. Chernoff criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of death. “From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray,” the lawyer said. He said it was evident from their searches of Murray’s properties in Las Vegas and Houston that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in the death. Investigators were looking for evidence that the doctor prescribed Jackson the other medications, he said. “I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard,” he said. Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD with the aid of the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several have had records subpoenaed by the coroner’s office, Murray is the only one to be publicly identified as a suspect. Dmitry Gorin, a defense lawyer who was a deputy district attorney, said that to prove involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors would have to show that Murray’s conduct was reckless to the point that no reasonable physician would consider such a course of treatment. “They’d use medical experts to show that the lack of monitoring equipment, lack of staff and leaving the room was so beyond the pale of what a professional would do,” Gorin said. -- Harriet Ryan, Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein [Edited 8/13/09 13:42pm] poisoned? | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: seeingvoices12 said: The mockery continues
Arrest His ass already....Shady as hell. Michael Jackson's doctor left singer alone after giving him powerful drug sources say August 13, 2009 | 6:00 am Michael Jackson smiles for cameras at the announcement of nominations for the 1995 MTV Video Awards on July 25. Jackson's video for "Scream'' was nominated for 11 awards that year. Michael Jackson’s personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation. By the time he returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said. Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug, propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation is ongoing. In an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson’s death, Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication, the sources said. He reportedly told police that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion in the early hours of June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal but was unable to sleep. Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson doses of the drug repeatedly since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said. The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that because there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to place calls on his cellphone, the sources said. It’s unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson’s bedroom. When Murray returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR on Jackson, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m. Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked Wednesday about the version of events outlined by the sources, the lawyer said: “I’m not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story.” Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in a bedroom. Investigators pursuing the case have focused on whether Murray’s use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone rose to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge. The Los Angeles County coroner’s office has concluded its investigation into Jackson’s death but, at the request of the LAPD, has not released its findings. Evidence gathered during the investigation suggests that the propofol admission alone might not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter. Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson’s system along with a limited amount of propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs without a massive amount of propofol could complicate any prosecution. The other drugs may have amplified the effect of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson’s breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson’s history of drug addiction and his prior use of propofol in particular. In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray did not realize what he was signing up for when he agreed to become Jackson’s doctor. “When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from,” Chernoff said. But after relocating to Los Angeles, “he realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems,” the lawyer said. Chernoff criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of death. “From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray,” the lawyer said. He said it was evident from their searches of Murray’s properties in Las Vegas and Houston that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in the death. Investigators were looking for evidence that the doctor prescribed Jackson the other medications, he said. “I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard,” he said. Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD with the aid of the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several have had records subpoenaed by the coroner’s office, Murray is the only one to be publicly identified as a suspect. Dmitry Gorin, a defense lawyer who was a deputy district attorney, said that to prove involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors would have to show that Murray’s conduct was reckless to the point that no reasonable physician would consider such a course of treatment. “They’d use medical experts to show that the lack of monitoring equipment, lack of staff and leaving the room was so beyond the pale of what a professional would do,” Gorin said. -- Harriet Ryan, Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein [Edited 8/13/09 13:42pm] poisoned? accidental Drug overdose a la Anna Nicole, Heath Ledger, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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The doctor Is reckless and irresponsible. MICHAEL JACKSON
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ehuffnsd said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: poisoned? accidental Drug overdose a la Anna Nicole, Heath Ledger, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe. why would u give to someone as a doctor knowing how dangerous it is or that it doesn't help insonmia? Malpractice, BOTTOM LINE. I remember seeing a video online from Good Morning America and that drug does not help with sleeping at all...makes the person more drowsy and doesn't realize natural elements required when sleeping. well we will just see when the toxicology reports are realized. | |
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When Dipravin is administered, it knocks you out after 10 seconds. The person stops breathing.
So therefore Murray either is an idiot, or didn't give a rat's ass about his patient. [Edited 8/13/09 14:19pm] | |
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ehuffnsd said: Timmy84 said: IF they arrest him: Jackson's doctor 'left room after sedation' (AFP) – 5 hours ago LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's personal doctor Conrad Murray left the room the morning the "King of Pop" died after administering the singer a powerful sedative, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday. Murray, 51, is identified in court records as a suspect in a Los Angeles police department manslaughter investigation, the newspaper reported, citing three people familiar with the investigation. Jackson died in Los Angeles on June 25 at age 50 from an apparent cardiac arrest. Murray had legally obtained a powerful drug, Propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, the unnamed sources told the Times. The drug is usually reserved for use in operating rooms. Murray, who began working as Jackson's personal doctor in May, acknowledged to police two days after the singer's death that he obtained and repeatedly gave Jackson the medicine. One law enforcement source told the newspaper that Jackson had been taking the drug as a sleep aid on and off for a decade. Murray, who insists he did nothing wrong, told police that he had not faced any problems with the drug and felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to step out to make calls on his cellphone, the sources told the newspaper. According to the Times, it's unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson's bedroom. When the doctor did return, Jackson had stopped breathing, so he performed CPR on the singer, while another person called for emergency help. Paramedics rushed the pop star to the UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead. The Times reported that there may not be enough evidence to charge Murray with manslaughter because other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson's body along with a small amount of Propofol. The Los Angeles County coroner's office said Monday it had completed a "thorough and comprehensive" autopsy of Michael Jackson but would not release the report, including long-awaited toxicology results, until police complete their investigation. Los Angeles Police Department said it had requested that "the cause and manner of death remain confidential" and also asked that an existing security hold on the results of the coroner's investigation remain in place. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents on Tuesday raided a Las Vegas pharmacy looking for evidence that Murray bought powerful drugs there. The DEA searched the pharmacy for documents, computer hard drives, prescriptions and shipping information of controlled substances that Murray may have administered to Jackson, entertainment website TMZ.com reported. The raid came two weeks after all-day searches at Murray's Las Vegas home and office. Copyright © 2009 AFP. All rights reserved. it was a YEAR after Anna Nicole died that they arrested Howard K Stern. would you rather they have an airtight case or something with holes you can drive semi's through? [Edited 8/13/09 13:43pm] No I rather they had arrested him weeks ago. | |
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suga10 said: When Dipravin is administered, it knocks you out after 10 seconds. The person stops breathing.
So therefore Murray either is an idiot, or didn't give a rat's ass about his patient. [Edited 8/13/09 14:19pm] I'll take idiot for $5 million, Alex. | |
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suga10 said: When Dipravin is administered, it knocks you out after 10 seconds. The person stops breathing.
So therefore Murray either is an idiot, or didn't give a rat's ass about his patient. [Edited 8/13/09 14:19pm] or hired by certain people | |
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suga10 said: When Dipravin is administered, it knocks you out after 10 seconds. The person stops breathing.
So therefore Murray either is an idiot, or didn't give a rat's ass about his patient. [Edited 8/13/09 14:19pm] I'll take "didn't give a rat's ass" for 2 fiddy | |
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DesireeNevermind said: suga10 said: When Dipravin is administered, it knocks you out after 10 seconds. The person stops breathing.
So therefore Murray either is an idiot, or didn't give a rat's ass about his patient. [Edited 8/13/09 14:19pm] I'll take "didn't give a rat's ass" for 2 fiddy Y'all giving him more credit than he deserves. I'll just say he's an ass. [Edited 8/13/09 14:22pm] | |
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i think youre supposed to have the person hooked up to an ekg while being under(?)
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: suga10 said: When Dipravin is administered, it knocks you out after 10 seconds. The person stops breathing.
So therefore Murray either is an idiot, or didn't give a rat's ass about his patient. [Edited 8/13/09 14:19pm] or hired by certain people I’m scared that this could be it, I mean, I don't want people to say to me that I’m jumping on the "conspiracy" bandwagon, but there is something just not right there , Mj was surrounded by evil people all the time, the whole situation is shady and suspicious as hell, MJ had always received death threats even during the trial……etc.. MICHAEL JACKSON
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I heard from people who were his friends said that they think michael hired that doctor to take him out because he was tired of living | |
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seeingvoices12 said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: or hired by certain people I’m scared that this could be it, I mean, I don't want people to say to me that I’m jumping on the "conspiracy" bandwagon, but there is something just not right there , Mj was surrounded by evil people all the time, the whole situation is shady and suspicious as hell, MJ had always received death threats even during the trial……etc.. and people selling him out...stace brown and bob jones anyone? | |
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babybugz said: I heard from people who were his friends said that they think michael hired that doctor to take him out because he was tired of living
no he loved his kids too much to do something like that. | |
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babybugz said: I heard from people who were his friends said that they think michael hired that doctor to take him out because he was tired of living
You're kidding. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: ehuffnsd said: accidental Drug overdose a la Anna Nicole, Heath Ledger, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe. why would u give to someone as a doctor knowing how dangerous it is or that it doesn't help insonmia? Malpractice, BOTTOM LINE. I remember seeing a video online from Good Morning America and that drug does not help with sleeping at all...makes the person more drowsy and doesn't realize natural elements required when sleeping. well we will just see when the toxicology reports are realized. apprently when you cash and you have someone who has you'd be willing to do whatever it takes to get the cash. Michael was a drug addict. Murray was an enabler. plain and simple. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: babybugz said: I heard from people who were his friends said that they think michael hired that doctor to take him out because he was tired of living
no he loved his kids too much to do something like that. | |
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that's stupid, mj loved his kids too much to do that
dangit AGAIN i am slow heheheh [Edited 8/13/09 14:31pm] | |
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ehuffnsd said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: why would u give to someone as a doctor knowing how dangerous it is or that it doesn't help insonmia? Malpractice, BOTTOM LINE. I remember seeing a video online from Good Morning America and that drug does not help with sleeping at all...makes the person more drowsy and doesn't realize natural elements required when sleeping. well we will just see when the toxicology reports are realized. apprently when you cash and you have someone who has you'd be willing to do whatever it takes to get the cash. Michael was a drug addict. Murray was an enabler. plain and simple. yeah but still malpractice | |
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babybugz said: I heard from people who were his friends said that they think michael hired that doctor to take him out because he was tired of living
WTH? that seems implausible since he loved his children so much and agreed to the tour. | |
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Timmy84 said: ehuffnsd said: it was a YEAR after Anna Nicole died that they arrested Howard K Stern. would you rather they have an airtight case or something with holes you can drive semi's through? [Edited 8/13/09 13:43pm] No I rather they had arrested him weeks ago. the quicker they done the faster the case would have been a mistrial. let them take their time and make sure everything is done right. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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seeingvoices12 said: The mockery continues
Arrest His ass already....Shady as hell. Michael Jackson's doctor left singer alone after giving him powerful drug sources say August 13, 2009 | 6:00 am Michael Jackson smiles for cameras at the announcement of nominations for the 1995 MTV Video Awards on July 25. Jackson's video for "Scream'' was nominated for 11 awards that year. Michael Jackson’s personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation. By the time he returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said. Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug, propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation is ongoing. In an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson’s death, Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication, the sources said. He reportedly told police that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion in the early hours of June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal but was unable to sleep. Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson doses of the drug repeatedly since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said. The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that because there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to place calls on his cellphone, the sources said. It’s unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson’s bedroom. When Murray returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR on Jackson, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m. Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked Wednesday about the version of events outlined by the sources, the lawyer said: “I’m not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story.” Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in a bedroom. Investigators pursuing the case have focused on whether Murray’s use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone rose to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge. The Los Angeles County coroner’s office has concluded its investigation into Jackson’s death but, at the request of the LAPD, has not released its findings. Evidence gathered during the investigation suggests that the propofol admission alone might not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter. Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson’s system along with a limited amount of propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs without a massive amount of propofol could complicate any prosecution. The other drugs may have amplified the effect of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson’s breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson’s history of drug addiction and his prior use of propofol in particular. In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray did not realize what he was signing up for when he agreed to become Jackson’s doctor. “When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from,” Chernoff said. But after relocating to Los Angeles, “he realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems,” the lawyer said. Chernoff criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of death. “From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray,” the lawyer said. He said it was evident from their searches of Murray’s properties in Las Vegas and Houston that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in the death. Investigators were looking for evidence that the doctor prescribed Jackson the other medications, he said. “I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard,” he said. Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD with the aid of the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several have had records subpoenaed by the coroner’s office, Murray is the only one to be publicly identified as a suspect. Dmitry Gorin, a defense lawyer who was a deputy district attorney, said that to prove involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors would have to show that Murray’s conduct was reckless to the point that no reasonable physician would consider such a course of treatment. “They’d use medical experts to show that the lack of monitoring equipment, lack of staff and leaving the room was so beyond the pale of what a professional would do,” Gorin said. -- Harriet Ryan, Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein [Edited 8/13/09 13:42pm] I thought he didn't have a phone? and why would he leave the room to make a phone call. It's not like your gonna wake him up by talking. I think we have a liar on our hands. [Edited 8/13/09 14:32pm] | |
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