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Reply #60 posted 08/12/09 6:03pm

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http://www.accesshollywoo...eo_1144743

Access Hollywood link above, LaToya talked told them she went to see her brother at Forest Lawn on Sunday, and said he looked amazing and in a deep sleep. He had two gloves on and cascading curls according to the reporter.
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Reply #61 posted 08/12/09 6:05pm

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http://www.accesshollywood.com/will-michael-jackson-be-buried-soon-august-12-2009_video_1144743

They haven't buried MJ yet, LaToya went to see her brother at Forest Lawn on Sunday, and said he looked amazing and in a deep sleep. He had two gloves on and cascading curls according to the reporter.


call me weird but i kinda wanna see how he looks. boxed I think it will give me closure.
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Reply #62 posted 08/12/09 6:08pm

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If you notice that Latoya is blinking her eyes A LOT. They say people who blink their eyes a lot or not looking someone directly in the eye when they are talking are lying.
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Reply #63 posted 08/12/09 6:10pm

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i wanna slap that bitch diana. she pisses me off mad
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Reply #64 posted 08/12/09 6:14pm

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EmeraldSkies said:



4:38

i wanna slap that bitch diana. she pisses me off mad


I can't stand her. She's so rude when she is interviewing anyone.
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Reply #65 posted 08/12/09 6:35pm

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Ellie said:

dearmother said:




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That's such a weird photo - from the looks of the pic of him on the book on that table, it looks like Bad era Mike, yet here it's clearly around 1985/86.


I thought I was the only one that thought that book cover had a Bad era tease to it. I wouldnt say 86, it's more around end of 84, beginning of 85

& When I say 1984/85, I'm referring to the actual picture, not the book cover. The book cover is from 1984 during the Victory tour
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Reply #66 posted 08/12/09 6:42pm

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Oh wait you're talking about that book, damn! Maybe Michael had someone make a drawing of how he was going to look like for his next album. eek

I actually noticed that he looking like Bad era Michael here in the clip below. His eyes certainly look different.


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Reply #67 posted 08/12/09 6:50pm

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suga10 said:

The beginning of many changes for Michael. Painkillers, Vitiligo, Healing from Pepsi burn, Steve Hoefflin and Arnie Klein mad

I actually noticed that he looking like Bad era Michael here. His eyes certainly look different.


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Yep! & notice how dark he is in the video compared to how he looks when Captain EO is finally released. I guess you can say "Black MJ" recorded "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World"
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Reply #68 posted 08/12/09 6:55pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

suga10 said:

The beginning of many changes for Michael. Painkillers, Vitiligo, Healing from Pepsi burn, Steve Hoefflin and Arnie Klein mad

I actually noticed that he looking like Bad era Michael here. His eyes certainly look different.


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Yep! & notice how dark he is in the video compared to how he looks when Captain EO is finally released. I guess you can say "Black MJ" recorded "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World"


He was actually this color in March 28 1985, but was painting his face dark like Thriller in 1985 at times, probably like that photo above with the book.



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Reply #69 posted 08/12/09 7:06pm

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suga10 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Yep! & notice how dark he is in the video compared to how he looks when Captain EO is finally released. I guess you can say "Black MJ" recorded "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World"


He was actually this color in March 28 1985, but was painting his face dark like Thriller in 1985 at times, probably like that photo above with the book.





now that last picture is TOO MUCH makeup .. The thinning of the lips , the nose.
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Reply #70 posted 08/12/09 7:18pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

suga10 said:

The beginning of many changes for Michael. Painkillers, Vitiligo, Healing from Pepsi burn, Steve Hoefflin and Arnie Klein mad

I actually noticed that he looking like Bad era Michael here. His eyes certainly look different.


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Yep! & notice how dark he is in the video compared to how he looks when Captain EO is finally released. I guess you can say "Black MJ" recorded "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World"


yeah i saw a buncha girls talkin about how hott he is in that, it weirds me out tbh. doesnt look like him.

when people say he did shit to his eyes, what do they mean? eye surgery? eyelid surgery????
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Reply #71 posted 08/12/09 7:22pm

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aaah these pics are blowing my mind, that makeup pic is eek

maybe its photoshopped? or whaa
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Reply #72 posted 08/12/09 7:23pm

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dearmother said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Yep! & notice how dark he is in the video compared to how he looks when Captain EO is finally released. I guess you can say "Black MJ" recorded "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World"


yeah i saw a buncha girls talkin about how hott he is in that, it weirds me out tbh. doesnt look like him.

when people say he did shit to his eyes, what do they mean? eye surgery? eyelid surgery????


Through out the years his eyes became "wider". It is said that he also had surgery on his eyelids for "permanent eye liner"
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Reply #73 posted 08/12/09 7:25pm

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this is Eerie

Often in the past performers have been tragic figures. A lot of the truly great people have suffered or died because of pressure and drugs, especially liquor. It's so sad. You feel cheated as a fan that you didn't get to watch them evolve as they grew older. One can't help wondering what performances Marilyn Monroe would have put in or what Jimi Hendrix might have done in the 1980s.

http://www.steady-laughin.../chap6.htm
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Reply #74 posted 08/12/09 7:32pm

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lol lol
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Reply #75 posted 08/12/09 7:33pm

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this is Eerie

Often in the past performers have been tragic figures. A lot of the truly great people have suffered or died because of pressure and drugs, especially liquor. It's so sad. You feel cheated as a fan that you didn't get to watch them evolve as they grew older. One can't help wondering what performances Marilyn Monroe would have put in or what Jimi Hendrix might have done in the 1980s.

http://www.steady-laughin.../chap6.htm


oh yeah i noticed that too!
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Reply #76 posted 08/12/09 7:44pm

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I'm sorry but Lisa Marie has always been suspect to me. I think she was a fan who married her idol and quickly fell out of love when the idol turned out to be a mere man. She's gonna say manipulation was "his thing". What does that mean? She's gonna marry him but not want to have his child because she envisioned a custody fight? Why marry him then? eek Plus years later she gives some other dude a kid? She doesn't want to kiss her own husband on stage when everybody is calling her false? I'm sorry I thought that was your husband and he was riveting. confuse And as of late she's all whining about not being able to save him? Bitch you left his ass!!! confused


at the beginning of the posted interview, she pretty much admits that she married mj to piss off her mother. spoiled little rich girl goes off to marry the weird black guy to make her family angry and assert her 'independence'. she 'scandalized' the family name (no mean feat considering elvis was not to the manner born and fell dead off a toilet), and then had to disavow the whole thing by saying that she didn't know what she was doing, he was manipulative, blah, blah, blah.

i have to say i've always thought this whole thing was so retro in its racist undertones. her behavior is reminiscent of back in the day when white women would claim rape b/c they didn't want to admit they'd been with a black man. she and her mother have spent the last decade 'explaining' lmp's behavior to the white mainstream press.

and i'm sorry, i have never quite believed latoya's story that she was 'forced' to do anything by jack gordon. i believe she wanted to engage in the behavior she engaged in out of her jealousy of her brother. just like there is a book proposal out there with jermaine's name to it which is just as slimy as anything latoya ever said. now the two of them are out there giving interviews, pretending like mj was the closest thing to them. puh-leaze.
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Reply #77 posted 08/12/09 7:51pm

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everyone rips on michael but i think la toyas the craziest jackson by a longshot
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Reply #78 posted 08/12/09 7:57pm

Timmy84

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everyone rips on michael but i think la toyas the craziest jackson by a longshot


For real. lol
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Reply #79 posted 08/12/09 8:06pm

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kibbles said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I'm sorry but Lisa Marie has always been suspect to me. I think she was a fan who married her idol and quickly fell out of love when the idol turned out to be a mere man. She's gonna say manipulation was "his thing". What does that mean? She's gonna marry him but not want to have his child because she envisioned a custody fight? Why marry him then? eek Plus years later she gives some other dude a kid? She doesn't want to kiss her own husband on stage when everybody is calling her false? I'm sorry I thought that was your husband and he was riveting. confuse And as of late she's all whining about not being able to save him? Bitch you left his ass!!! confused


at the beginning of the posted interview, she pretty much admits that she married mj to piss off her mother. spoiled little rich girl goes off to marry the weird black guy to make her family angry and assert her 'independence'. she 'scandalized' the family name (no mean feat considering elvis was not to the manner born and fell dead off a toilet), and then had to disavow the whole thing by saying that she didn't know what she was doing, he was manipulative, blah, blah, blah.

i have to say i've always thought this whole thing was so retro in its racist undertones. her behavior is reminiscent of back in the day when white women would claim rape b/c they didn't want to admit they'd been with a black man. she and her mother have spent the last decade 'explaining' lmp's behavior to the white mainstream press.

and i'm sorry, i have never quite believed latoya's story that she was 'forced' to do anything by jack gordon. i believe she wanted to engage in the behavior she engaged in out of her jealousy of her brother. just like there is a book proposal out there with jermaine's name to it which is just as slimy as anything latoya ever said. now the two of them are out there giving interviews, pretending like mj was the closest thing to them. puh-leaze.


Janet talks about LaToya's insecurity here and how she felt left out because the others had more success than her.

Back in 1993

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Reply #80 posted 08/12/09 8:07pm

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Timmy84 said:

dearmother said:

everyone rips on michael but i think la toyas the craziest jackson by a longshot


For real. lol


HaHa! I don't think any of them are/were crazy. I think because the family is so private and secretive, the media can't get the information out of them, so they put crazy shxt in the papers/headlines to make it seem like the family has gone bonkers. The Jacksons is a very tight knit family
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Reply #81 posted 08/12/09 8:17pm

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dearmother said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Yep! & notice how dark he is in the video compared to how he looks when Captain EO is finally released. I guess you can say "Black MJ" recorded "Another Part of Me" and "We Are Here to Change the World"


yeah i saw a buncha girls talkin about how hott he is in that, it weirds me out tbh. doesnt look like him.

when people say he did shit to his eyes, what do they mean? eye surgery? eyelid surgery????

it doesn't look like him? really he's just ligher? i think he looks cute in captain eo.
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Reply #82 posted 08/12/09 8:23pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

dearmother said:



yeah i saw a buncha girls talkin about how hott he is in that, it weirds me out tbh. doesnt look like him.

when people say he did shit to his eyes, what do they mean? eye surgery? eyelid surgery????


Through out the years his eyes became "wider". It is said that he also had surgery on his eyelids for "permanent eye liner"

he's had wide eyes since he was a child. but yeah he did get permanent eye liner. it's not that bad of an idea lol just tattoo the ish if ur gonna wear it all day everyday
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Reply #83 posted 08/12/09 8:30pm

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suga10 said:[quote]

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at the beginning of the posted interview, she pretty much admits that she married mj to piss off her mother. spoiled little rich girl goes off to marry the weird black guy to make her family angry and assert her 'independence'. she 'scandalized' the family name (no mean feat considering elvis was not to the manner born and fell dead off a toilet), and then had to disavow the whole thing by saying that she didn't know what she was doing, he was manipulative, blah, blah, blah.

i have to say i've always thought this whole thing was so retro in its racist undertones. her behavior is reminiscent of back in the day when white women would claim rape b/c they didn't want to admit they'd been with a black man. she and her mother have spent the last decade 'explaining' lmp's behavior to the white mainstream press.

and i'm sorry, i have never quite believed latoya's story that she was 'forced' to do anything by jack gordon. i believe she wanted to engage in the behavior she engaged in out of her jealousy of her brother. just like there is a book proposal out there with jermaine's name to it which is just as slimy as anything latoya ever said. now the two of them are out there giving interviews, pretending like mj was the closest thing to them. puh-leaze.


Janet talks about LaToya's insecurity here and how she felt left out because the others had more success than her.

Back in 1993

i'll be honest and say i didn't look at the clip b/c there is nothing, absolutely nothing that justifies her cruelty toward her brother. if she was the one in the clip owning up to the insecurity and its effects on her behavior, then maybe i would she her in a different light. let me stop b/c i was just about to type something really foul! wink
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Reply #84 posted 08/12/09 8:33pm

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mimi07 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Through out the years his eyes became "wider". It is said that he also had surgery on his eyelids for "permanent eye liner"

he's had wide eyes since he was a child. but yeah he did get permanent eye liner. it's not that bad of an idea lol just tattoo the ish if ur gonna wear it all day everyday


When I meant he did something to his eyes, I was talking about the shape of his eyes. Its like they got smaller or changed shape.

Before


1992


Also I don't recall seeing him with permanant eyeliner anymore, or maybe he got he lessened then before.

Before




Recently in May

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Reply #85 posted 08/12/09 8:41pm

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kibbles said:[quote]

suga10 said:

kibbles said:



at the beginning of the posted interview, she pretty much admits that she married mj to piss off her mother. spoiled little rich girl goes off to marry the weird black guy to make her family angry and assert her 'independence'. she 'scandalized' the family name (no mean feat considering elvis was not to the manner born and fell dead off a toilet), and then had to disavow the whole thing by saying that she didn't know what she was doing, he was manipulative, blah, blah, blah.

i have to say i've always thought this whole thing was so retro in its racist undertones. her behavior is reminiscent of back in the day when white women would claim rape b/c they didn't want to admit they'd been with a black man. she and her mother have spent the last decade 'explaining' lmp's behavior to the white mainstream press.

and i'm sorry, i have never quite believed latoya's story that she was 'forced' to do anything by jack gordon. i believe she wanted to engage in the behavior she engaged in out of her jealousy of her brother. just like there is a book proposal out there with jermaine's name to it which is just as slimy as anything latoya ever said. now the two of them are out there giving interviews, pretending like mj was the closest thing to them. puh-leaze.


Janet talks about LaToya's insecurity here and how she felt left out because the others had more success than her.

Back in 1993

i'll be honest and say i didn't look at the clip b/c there is nothing, absolutely nothing that justifies her cruelty toward her brother. if she was the one in the clip owning up to the insecurity and its effects on her behavior, then maybe i would she her in a different light. let me stop b/c i was just about to type something really foul! wink


People make mistakes, and no one is perfect. Family members have their share of fights and ups and down, but at the end, does it mean they don't love their brother? They lost their brother. If they want to give interviews, let them, people grieve differently.

Did you not see Jermaine in that press conference the day Michael died? He was heartbroken.


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Reply #86 posted 08/12/09 9:05pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



For real. lol


HaHa! I don't think any of them are/were crazy. I think because the family is so private and secretive, the media can't get the information out of them, so they put crazy shxt in the papers/headlines to make it seem like the family has gone bonkers. The Jacksons is a very tight knit family


Tight knit or not, they're paying the price for what happened in the 1980s and 1990s. That's why the media's upset now.
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Reply #87 posted 08/12/09 9:09pm

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suga10 said:

mimi07 said:


he's had wide eyes since he was a child. but yeah he did get permanent eye liner. it's not that bad of an idea lol just tattoo the ish if ur gonna wear it all day everyday


When I meant he did something to his eyes, I was talking about the shape of his eyes. Its like they got smaller or changed shape.

Before


1992


Also I don't recall seeing him with permanant eyeliner anymore, or maybe he got he lessened then before.

Before




Recently in May


it's just different facial expressions.

in the first pic it's a photoshoot and he's poised and looking dead straight into the camera so his eyes are of course gonna be wider. i don't think he got the permanent eyeliner until sometime in the 90's













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Reply #88 posted 08/12/09 9:12pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:



If you notice that Latoya is blinking her eyes A LOT. They say people who blink their eyes a lot or not looking someone directly in the eye when they are talking are lying.
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I believe there are signs to lying, the main one i notice is when people touch their face or nose. It's like a way of expressing anxiety over a lie.
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Reply #89 posted 08/12/09 9:20pm

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I just read Freidman's blog

He got excepts from Jermaine's book proposal with Stacy Brown in 2003

I hope Stacy did the bullshitting and Jermaine just fell trap to him. I so hope Jermaine didn't write this, b/c it sure would make me feel disappointed.

confused

http://www.showbiz411.com...k-proposal

Whatever happened to Jermaine Jackson’s book proposal?

Three years ago I wrote in my old column about a stunning document that Jermaine had put together with Stacy Brown, a family friend and co-author of an amazing memoir with Michael Jackson’s late, longtime PR man, Bob Jones.

Jermaine often protested that such a proposal existed, but he talked about it with Larry King on TV. New York literary agent Laurie Liss sent the proposal around to three publishers, but no one bit. Maybe they’ll be more interested now that Michael is gone.

I was so interested in Jermaine’s 2003 proposal that I called around to find the actual document. Sure enough, there still were copies to be found.

Here are excerpts from it, in Jermaine’s own voice, circa early 2003:

“My brother is a superstar, yes. My brother is wealthy. He owns shares in Sony music. He drinks, he does drugs, he lies, he cheats, he changed his skin color and mostly, he’s human. He attracts gay men and wards off women like the plague.”

“He married a woman because she was pregnant and he was doing business with Muslims (which I am a Muslim) and Muslims won’t do business with someone who is engaged in having children without being married.

“He paid this woman, who nobody would ever look twice at, several million dollars. My brother purchased children. It is like a sanctioned black market. He is very powerful; he picked the sperm donor by using information provided by a sperm bank. Now, who can do that? Michael Jackson, that’s who, my brother.

“I have maintained my residence by my mother’s side at the family’s Hayvenhurst estate in Encino, California because I know how much I am needed there. Michael counts on me to be there as does the rest of my family.”

[Columnist note: this would verify the long-held belief that Katherine and Joseph Jackson, who have filed for divorce in the past, do not live together. Joseph’s fathering of an illegitimate child, reported and documented in several places, could have contributed to this.]

“It was my little brother, he conceived the whole idea behind DreamWorks. The logo is still proudly the official logo of Neverland. Unfortunately, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen all stole the idea from him. That’s one reason why Michael hates Jewish people so much. But he plays the game with them. There is a game that all in Hollywood play. But the Jews are the powerful ones and they have done a lot to put my brother in his place….just another nigger. That’s what Don King told Michael at the start of the “Victory” tour. No matter what Michael, you’re just another nigger.

“My brother doesn’t always learn the valuable lessons life teaches. He is stubborn, hard-headed and, at times, harsh. He is cold, calculating and devious. The blood of his father runs freely through him. We were all afraid that the blood of Joseph Jackson would eventually contaminate all of us.

“But this is still my family and I love every one of them and I won’t sit by and let my brother go to prison. Prison would kill him. I’ve thought about doing the time for him, if he’s convicted. Michael wouldn’t survive in prison for one day. He’d commit suicide.

“Joseph did some disgusting things to LaToya and Rebbie, especially. If it weren’t for Mother’s loyalty to him, he’d probably be in prison for what he did to our sisters.”

Jermaine, meantime, has some explaining to do about the big upcoming charity event he’s planning in Vienna for brother Michael.

Since yesterday when I started asking questions about where the money was going for “The Tribute,” produced by Jermaine and awards show producer George Kindel, the event’s website has been heavily edited.

Previously, it claimed — and Jermaine claimed on TV — that three organizations would benefit from this circus: Larry Jones’s children’s group that you always see flogged on middle of the night commercials; Larry King’s Cardiac Foundation, and Jermaine’s own Earth Care Foundation.

The problem is that Earth Care, which Jermaine has touted for years, does not exist. There is an Earth Care Foundation in New Mexico. They have nothing to do with him. They don’t even know who he is.

Twice in 2003 and at least once in 2001, Jermaine said in television interviews that he was behind something called EarthVision International. The organization does not exist, except maybe in Jermaine’s imagination.

Back on Sept. 8, 1997, Jermaine told Larry King that the Jackson 5 was getting back together for a benefit extravaganza called Earthvision ‘98. He said the 90-minute program would benefit a group he named as the Sunshine Foundation of Feasterville, Pa.

Jackson announced that the small group that grants wishes for ill children would get money by honoring “Muhammad Ali, Sophia Loren, Stevie Wonder and Bishop Desmond Tutufor their humanitarian achievements.”

Jermaine said Earthvision ‘98 would be broadcast live July 2, 1998, from the Heridon Theater in Athens, Greece.


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