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Reply #30 posted 08/12/09 3:36pm

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Lisa Marie on Marrying & Divorcing Michael: Excerpted From 2003 Playboy Interview


Playboy: Other than ex-hubby Danny, who knew you were going to marry Michael?

Presley: No one except the people who arranged the wedding.

Playboy: Why didn't you tell your mom?

Presley: Because I knew she was against it. She was already saying, "Don't you think this is just good timing for him? Wake up." But I wouldn't hear anything about it.

Playboy: What did Priscilla say when you told her you had married him?

Presley: She called me casually one day and said, "Ugh, there are helicopters flying over my house, driving me crazy. They're saying that you married Michael Jackson." And I was silent. And she went, "No, you didn't. Lisa! Tell me." And I went, "Yup. I did it." And I have to say I got a bit of a kick out of it, just for old times' sake. One more middle finger going up.

Playboy: Lots of other people suspected it was a publicity stunt, because he had been accused of child molestation.

Presley: We met casually at a friend's house, and he immediately disillusioned me of any preconceived ideas I had of him. He said, "I know you think this about me, you think that," and I immediately said, "Oh my god, you're so misunderstood!" I forgot who he was within 20 minutes, because we were so locked into a conversation.

Playboy: You're saying that Michael Jackson is seductive?

Presley: He's not sexually seductive, but there is something riveting about him. He doesn't let people see who he is. When he does, it's hard to shake. I got caught up and thought I was in love with the man. I don't know what else to say.

Playboy: When you announced the marriage, you said in a press release, "I understand and support him." Please explain Michael to those of us who really don't understand him.

Presley: Here's the thing: For a while, Michael was like the Wizard of Oz, the man behind the curtain. At one time he was really good at manipulating a Howard Hughes type of image: "He's mysterious, fascinating." He became this bigger-than-life figure. But at some point, it turned on him and he became this freak. And now he can't get out from under it. When you're the king of your own palace, there are no morals or ethics or integrity. Everyone will kiss your ass and then give you the push that knocks you over.

Playboy: Did you and he ever have children join you in your bed?

Presley: Never. Never, never, never, never. I never saw him sleep in a bed with a child, ever.


Playboy: Did you ever see him with photos of nude children?

Presley: Never. Never.

Playboy: Do you have any reason to think he's a child molester?

Presley: If I'd had any reason to suspect that, I would have had nothing to do with the guy. I had no reason to, other than the allegations themselves. The only two people who know are Michael and that kid in the room. I've never seen him behave inappropriately. He was great with my kids. He does have a connection with kids, babies. He's a kid, and other kids sense that in him.

Playboy: It would help his case if he'd stop saying, "Yes, I sleep with children."

Presley: I know! Someone should call him and go, "Would you just stop saying that? It's not working for you!"

Playboy: Did you and Michael discuss having kids?

Presley: Yeah. [Laughs] I got out of that one. "I just don't think it's a good idea right now." But I knew that's what he wanted. And I knew Debbie Rowe was offering to do it for him while we were married, according to him. She was a nurse who had a crush on him and offered to have his babies.

Playboy: Was he trying to leverage you into agreeing?

Presley: Kind of. "Debbie Rowe says she'll do it." OK, have Debbie Rowe do it! And it's funny, when I imagined having a child with him, all I could ever see was a custody battle nightmare.


Playboy: He just wanted to find someone to bear his children.

Presley: I think so, but I don't know.

Playboy: Did you watch his TV interviews last winter with Martin Bashir?

Presley: I watched, because I was on a radio tour that week and I was being asked about it every day. I was like, Could there be any worse timing? I walked away in 1996. It's not something consuming my thoughts anymore.

Playboy: When Diane Sawyer interviewed you and Michael, she asked if you two had sex, and you were indignant. Can you see how the marriage looked suspicious to people?

Presley: I can see that, only because that's his thing, not mine. That always upset me. I was married for several years to a bass player nobody knew and before that never dated a celebrity. I never did anything to try to get publicity. I got caught up in Michael's thing, which was manipulation. I was like, "Fuck you people, that's not who I am. Why am I being blamed for a publicity stunt? Oh, I'm Miss Aspiring Singer, and now I want a record deal? That's why I'm with him?"

Playboy: It sounds like you think he used you.

Presley: I'm not going to say he did or didn't. There are things that don't look good, that's all I can say. And most people saw it at the time, except me.

Playboy: When did the relationship go sour for you?

Presley: Not long after Diane Sawyer. I started to wake up and ask a lot of questions - I don't want to go into detail, but it went downhill pretty quick.

Playboy: What about your kiss at the Video Music Awards in 1994? It looked so staged and awkward.

Presley: It looked awkward because I wanted out of my skin. At the 11th hour, he says, "I'm gonna kiss you." I was like, "No, I don't want to do that. Do we have to? That's bullshit." On the way there I kept saying, "Do we have to?" I squeezed his hand so hard that I cut off the circulation. He wouldn't tell me when it was going to happen.

Playboy: It was reported that you asked him for a divorce while he was in the hospital recovering from "exhaustion."

Presley: Not true. There was a bit of a showdown in the hospital, and I didn't understand what was wrong with him. I didn't know what he was up to. When I started asking too many questions about what was wrong, he asked me to leave. This is the real story. He said, "You're causing trouble." The doctors wanted me to go. I freaked out, because it was all too familiar. When he got out, I called him and said, "I want out."



http://www.playboy.co.uk/...tentPage/2


That's interesting,because did'nt she say during that interview that her,and Michael did with Diane Sawyer that she was kicked out of the bed by kids that wanted to be with Michael?

I'm not saying this in the terms of thinking there was anything inappropriate going on cause I don't,and never did,I just find it funny that she says one thing to Playboy,and another to Diane Saywer. confused
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Reply #31 posted 08/12/09 3:40pm

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I think it was from either the Off The Wall period or Invincible period, I'm not sure. I'll at the thread again

also when I posted this interview on Youtube



a fan on MJJC told me about this



[quote]efore that, each time I saw him, he was sitting down and I was in front of him. I got the color of his pants mixed up with the vest, but I got the color brown in there!! Oh my GOODNESS!! lol Not too bad for a woman in her forties looking back to when she was sixteen and scoping out Michael Jackson, huh?!! LOL Mike just has that type of affect on ya! Once you meet him, that moment in time stays with you.


Hey brainiac, guess what?!!!! I called my friend that also met MJ that day!! She's the one that kissed him during the autograph signing. She is also the one that he had someone come back to Oakland to find for him. He had the guy bring her to Havenhurst!!!


Apparently, Michael met her friend during his stop in Oakland CA during his promo tour for Off The Wall and she visited him at Hayvenhurst soon after
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Oooooh, thanks! So he was doing that stuff from early on. I love it!
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Reply #32 posted 08/12/09 3:46pm

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I'm sorry but Lisa Marie has always been suspect to me. I think she was a fan who married her idol and quickly fell out of love when the idol turned out to be a mere man. She's gonna say manipulation was "his thing". What does that mean? She's gonna marry him but not want to have his child because she envisioned a custody fight? Why marry him then? eek Plus years later she gives some other dude a kid? She doesn't want to kiss her own husband on stage when everybody is calling her false? I'm sorry I thought that was your husband and he was riveting. confuse And as of late she's all whining about not being able to save him? Bitch you left his ass!!! confused
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Reply #33 posted 08/12/09 3:50pm

StillDirrty

I know that is one phony bitch! That is why I don't like her. She talked so much shit and now she's like oh I tried to save him. That's not what she was saying after they got divorced! She did nothing but talk bad about him and seemed embarrassed about the whole thing. I feel like she used him being manipulative as an excuse as to how she could fall in love with him. I don't get why he liked her so much. She is not pretty imo and I think that she's a bitch along with her mother.
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Reply #34 posted 08/12/09 4:03pm

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I'm sorry but Lisa Marie has always been suspect to me. I think she was a fan who married her idol and quickly fell out of love when the idol turned out to be a mere man. She's gonna say manipulation was "his thing". What does that mean? She's gonna marry him but not want to have his child because she envisioned a custody fight? Why marry him then? eek Plus years later she gives some other dude a kid? She doesn't want to kiss her own husband on stage when everybody is calling her false? I'm sorry I thought that was your husband and he was riveting. confuse And as of late she's all whining about not being able to save him? Bitch you left his ass!!! confused

Not to mention she was seen spending time with him barely 2 years after they divorced.....
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Reply #35 posted 08/12/09 4:12pm

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[Edited 8/12/09 12:22pm]

That's such a weird photo - from the looks of the pic of him on the book on that table, it looks like Bad era Mike, yet here it's clearly around 1985/86.
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Reply #36 posted 08/12/09 4:13pm

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StillDirrty said:

Back to the plastic surgery. For me I find him
sexually appealing up to Bad Era except that I don't
like the chin implant. However he looked TERRIBLE
in the early '00s but there were times imo recently where he looked good.







When he looked best imo:





sigh .... sad ....broken .... cry ... bawl aww michael, i still can't believe this
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Reply #37 posted 08/12/09 4:14pm

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Damn. Y'all are harsh. She sounds perfectly reasonable. It's not like she threw him under a bus, unlike his fuckin' sister LaToya. The fact the were still able to have some contact after the divorce shows they were at least able to stay on speaking terms. And as for the VMA kiss, it was SO awkward and unnatural.
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Reply #38 posted 08/12/09 4:15pm

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Not to mention she was seen spending time with him barely 2 years after they divorced.....

Hasn't she already explained that since his death? She finally admitted that she was trying to pretend that she was indifferent to him (in these interviews since she launched her singing career) but FINALLY admitted the truth in the last 6 weeks.

I'll never forget her sitting there in a UK TV interview a few years ago telling us that she'd never even been to the UK to stay before... when we all SAW her there in 1997 coming and going from MJ's hotel. We saw her there at the concerts too.
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Reply #39 posted 08/12/09 4:22pm

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4:38
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Reply #40 posted 08/12/09 4:22pm

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StillDirrty said:

I know that is one phony bitch! That is why I don't like her. She talked so much shit and now she's like oh I tried to save him. That's not what she was saying after they got divorced! She did nothing but talk bad about him and seemed embarrassed about the whole thing. I feel like she used him being manipulative as an excuse as to how she could fall in love with him. I don't get why he liked her so much. She is not pretty imo and I think that she's a bitch along with her mother.
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Exactly. She's alway felt embarassed to be associated to MJ in recent times, and tried to brush it off by saying she was young and nieve when she was with him.

And then her and mother on Oprah tried to make him out as being a manipulative human being, when its very obvious that he's a man many people took advantage of throughout the years. Manipulative my foot.
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Reply #41 posted 08/12/09 4:36pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

Damn. Y'all are harsh. She sounds perfectly reasonable. It's not like she threw him under a bus, unlike his fuckin' sister LaToya. The fact the were still able to have some contact after the divorce shows they were at least able to stay on speaking terms. And as for the VMA kiss, it was SO awkward and unnatural.



I get what you're saying about the VMAs but come on. If people are calling your marriage a sham and dogging out your husband whom you supposedly love well if he wants to kiss you on stage to ease his stress then why question it and feel weird about it. It didn't have to be awkward or unnatural, she made it so. You look at somebody like an Angelina Jolie who for months had to deal with being called a homewrecker and folks saying Brad was with her just because of the kids. That heffer let's the entire world know she is digging her man (public displays of affection) and she doesn't care what anybody thinks about it.

Now as for LaToya..well...she nutty like a snickers bar so what can anyone say or do. You love your sister but you wake up with your wife. smile
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Reply #42 posted 08/12/09 4:39pm

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Exactly. She's alway felt embarassed to be associated to MJ in recent times, and tried to brush it off by saying she was young and nieve when she was with him.

And then her and mother on Oprah tried to make him out as being a manipulative human being, when its very obvious that he's a man many people took advantage of throughout the years. Manipulative my foot.
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There's no way she was naive. She was a mother of 2 children so she grew up pretty fast.
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Reply #43 posted 08/12/09 4:39pm

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TMZ found a woman who had Conrad Murray's baby eek She's a stripper and 27 years old.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...e-alvarez/


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Reply #44 posted 08/12/09 4:43pm

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suga10 said:

TMZ found a woman who had Conrad Murray's baby eek She's a stripper and 27 years old.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...e-alvarez/


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she looks pretty but F**k that doctor and his no good baby machine, killing legends broke ass
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Reply #45 posted 08/12/09 4:51pm

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suga10 said:

TMZ found a woman who had Conrad Murray's baby eek She's a stripper and 27 years old.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...e-alvarez/


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Some heffas will do anything for a dollar! hmph!

And now he aint gonna give her shit cuz he will have to pay for his attorney fees.

"I aint got it baby"
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Reply #46 posted 08/12/09 4:54pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

suga10 said:

TMZ found a woman who had Conrad Murray's baby eek She's a stripper and 27 years old.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...e-alvarez/


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Some heffas will do anything for a dollar! hmph!

And now he aint gonna give her shit cuz he will have to pay for his attorney fees.

"I aint got it baby"

she's making it rain with prescription papers confused
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Reply #47 posted 08/12/09 4:54pm

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beautiful pictures!






"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #48 posted 08/12/09 4:55pm

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bboy87 said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Some heffas will do anything for a dollar! hmph!

And now he aint gonna give her shit cuz he will have to pay for his attorney fees.

"I aint got it baby"

she's making it rain with prescription papers confused




can you imagine? faint
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Reply #49 posted 08/12/09 4:57pm

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Latoya Jackson interview after Michael's death

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Reply #50 posted 08/12/09 4:58pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #51 posted 08/12/09 4:58pm

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Latoya Jackson interview after Michael's death


i haven't seen this, thanks
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Reply #52 posted 08/12/09 4:59pm

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Whole thing









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Reply #53 posted 08/12/09 5:02pm

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Does anyone know what happened to the OTW 30th anniversary edition?

Wasn't it s'pposed to be released this August?

It would sell well, with a few bonus tracks!!!
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Reply #54 posted 08/12/09 5:27pm

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Reply #55 posted 08/12/09 5:30pm

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what is it i can't see it
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Reply #56 posted 08/12/09 5:32pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

babybugz said:



what is it i can't see it

people posting dirty fanfictions about michael ..smh lol
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Reply #57 posted 08/12/09 5:36pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

babybugz said:



what is it i can't see it

and who uses livejournal in 2009? lol
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Reply #58 posted 08/12/09 5:40pm

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bboy87 said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:



what is it i can't see it

and who uses livejournal in 2009? lol

it's good for ONTD lol
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Reply #59 posted 08/12/09 5:46pm

suga10

Damn she looks so much like MJ here lollol

But so sad how Gordon told her to say shit.


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