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Printablejamgirl said: Timmy84 said: Arnold Klein, right? Me too. That fool's as suspect as Murray. Suspect? I think he straight up crooked. Murray is just an imbecile.... But Klein. As for all this tabloid ish..... Just hope the fam is keeping the kids away and by all accounts...and from that chef...good ol' family fun is doing it. Yeah you're right. Something was fishy about Klein from the first time he opened his fat gums. He's got way more to hide than Murray does. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Michael always went to the extreme with things *sighs* His life was always to the extreme. There was never a calm moment. Remember he grew up in "Dirty" Gary, Indiana. That was the start of it. Calm : Prince, Paris, Blanket. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: His life was always to the extreme. There was never a calm moment. Remember he grew up in "Dirty" Gary, Indiana. That was the start of it. Calm : Prince, Paris, Blanket. The only calm unfortunately. | |
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And I don't know whether to believe it or not but if true, just sad and tragic, poor Mike:
Michael Jackson Aliases Include Literary Figure, Jazz Singer And Personal Chef Posted 0 minutes ago by Gil Kaufman in Music When police searched the offices and Las Vegas home of Michael Jackson's physician Dr. Conrad Murray on Tuesday, they were looking for medical records tied to the late singer and "all of his reported aliases." According to authorities, the King of Pop may have used as many as 19 aliases in an attempt to obtain prescription drugs, a list that allegedly includes 19th century American author Jack London (best known for such popular novels as White Fang and The Call of the Wild) and legendary 20th century black expatriate singer/actress Josephine Baker, also known as "Black Pearl." But he also reportedly chose a variety of other lesser-known pseudonyms, including the frequently used Omar Arnold and Michael Amir (the latter the name of one of his employees), as well as Paul Farance, Bryan Singleton and Jimmy Nicholas. According to a recent Rolling Stone story, Arnold was also a name Jackson used when making prank calls to Kenny Ortega, the director of his planned "This Is It" comeback tour. Jackson even appeared to use an adulterated version of one of his tormentors, Blanca Nicholas, from time to time. The name seems to be a play on Blanca Francia, a former maid who claimed that Jackson inappropriately touched her young son. Other names on the list include Roselyn and Faheen Muhammad, as well as Frank Tyson, which may be a reference to the iconic British cricket player from the 1950s known as "Typhoon Tyson." While he seems to have cooked up the name Fernand Diaz, another alias, Kai Chase, is actually the name of one of the singer’s personal chefs. But one alias hit even closer to home: Prince Jackson, a false handle that isn't really false at all, but rather the birth name of Jackson's oldest son. | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: Suspect? I think he straight up crooked. Murray is just an imbecile.... But Klein. As for all this tabloid ish..... Just hope the fam is keeping the kids away and by all accounts...and from that chef...good ol' family fun is doing it. Yeah you're right. Something was fishy about Klein from the first time he opened his fat gums. He's got way more to hide than Murray does.  Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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Timmy84 said: More info on the autopsy delay, apparently Arnold Klein is still being investigated:
Jackson Autopsy Results...Don't Hold Your Breath Today 1:25 PM PDT by Josh Grossberg and Art Harris Michael Jackson Kevin Mazur/AEG via Getty Images The world can't wait for the whole Michael Jackson death mystery to be resolved. But apparently the coroner didn't get the memo. Just a day after telling E! News that his office was "still shooting for the end of the week" to announce an official cause of death, Los Angeles County Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter now says the results won't likely be out until next week. While Winter did not specifically state a reason for delay, it appears his office is still trying to gather evidence. Earlier today, a subpoena-packing Winter turned up at the Beverly Hills offices of Dr. Lawrence Koplin. Jackson dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein reportedly once performed a procedure on the singer in Koplin's office. Asked if he had ever seen a case like this before, Winter simply said, "No, I have not." Authorities are trying to build a manslaughter case against Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, and would like corroboration from the coroner. While Murray's lawyer has insisted otherwise, investigators with the LAPD and the DEA believe the doctor gave Jackson a lethal dose of the sedative propofol. Detectives have carried out raids on Murray's Las Vegas home and office and his Houston offices and storage facilities. Capt. John Kades, an investigator with the coroner's office, tells E! News that "every day we get a little closer to the cause of death...[but] nothing has been finalized. "The bottom line is [Jackson] died back on June 25, and at that time we were estimating four to six weeks before we could determine the cause of death. So we're still within that window," he said. This case must be very complex or the Coroner is just being sacrastic. | |
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Timmy84 said: And I don't know whether to believe it or not but if true, just sad and tragic, poor Mike:
Michael Jackson Aliases Include Literary Figure, Jazz Singer And Personal Chef Posted 0 minutes ago by Gil Kaufman in Music When police searched the offices and Las Vegas home of Michael Jackson's physician Dr. Conrad Murray on Tuesday, they were looking for medical records tied to the late singer and "all of his reported aliases." According to authorities, the King of Pop may have used as many as 19 aliases in an attempt to obtain prescription drugs, a list that allegedly includes 19th century American author Jack London (best known for such popular novels as White Fang and The Call of the Wild) and legendary 20th century black expatriate singer/actress Josephine Baker, also known as "Black Pearl." But he also reportedly chose a variety of other lesser-known pseudonyms, including the frequently used Omar Arnold and Michael Amir (the latter the name of one of his employees), as well as Paul Farance, Bryan Singleton and Jimmy Nicholas. According to a recent Rolling Stone story, Arnold was also a name Jackson used when making prank calls to Kenny Ortega, the director of his planned "This Is It" comeback tour. Jackson even appeared to use an adulterated version of one of his tormentors, Blanca Nicholas, from time to time. The name seems to be a play on Blanca Francia, a former maid who claimed that Jackson inappropriately touched her young son. Other names on the list include Roselyn and Faheen Muhammad, as well as Frank Tyson, which may be a reference to the iconic British cricket player from the 1950s known as "Typhoon Tyson." While he seems to have cooked up the name Fernand Diaz, another alias, Kai Chase, is actually the name of one of the singer’s personal chefs. But one alias hit even closer to home: Prince Jackson, a false handle that isn't really false at all, but rather the birth name of Jackson's oldest son. Lord Jeebus Christ in me.... 
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Apparently the temperature of the liver can indicate time of death, so surely MJ being dead at 9am would be picked up on during the autopsy and further point the finger at Dr Murray. According to recent reports MJ's bedroom was very hot as apparently Michael felt the cold. Was this a way of the doctor keeping Michael as warm as possible to help prove the theory he died much later? | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: Calm : Prince, Paris, Blanket. The only calm unfortunately. Those kids gon' turn out ok, not in small part due to Mike. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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Timmy84 said: More info on the autopsy delay, apparently Arnold Klein is still being investigated:
Jackson Autopsy Results...Don't Hold Your Breath Today 1:25 PM PDT by Josh Grossberg and Art Harris Michael Jackson Kevin Mazur/AEG via Getty Images The world can't wait for the whole Michael Jackson death mystery to be resolved. But apparently the coroner didn't get the memo. Just a day after telling E! News that his office was "still shooting for the end of the week" to announce an official cause of death, Los Angeles County Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter now says the results won't likely be out until next week. While Winter did not specifically state a reason for delay, it appears his office is still trying to gather evidence. Earlier today, a subpoena-packing Winter turned up at the Beverly Hills offices of Dr. Lawrence Koplin. Jackson dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein reportedly once performed a procedure on the singer in Koplin's office. Asked if he had ever seen a case like this before, Winter simply said, "No, I have not." Authorities are trying to build a manslaughter case against Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, and would like corroboration from the coroner. While Murray's lawyer has insisted otherwise, investigators with the LAPD and the DEA believe the doctor gave Jackson a lethal dose of the sedative propofol. Detectives have carried out raids on Murray's Las Vegas home and office and his Houston offices and storage facilities. Capt. John Kades, an investigator with the coroner's office, tells E! News that "every day we get a little closer to the cause of death...[but] nothing has been finalized. "The bottom line is [Jackson] died back on June 25, and at that time we were estimating four to six weeks before we could determine the cause of death. So we're still within that window," he said.  Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: Yeah you're right. Something was fishy about Klein from the first time he opened his fat gums. He's got way more to hide than Murray does. See them going after Klein makes me think that that's why they're holding to telling folks what killed MJ. It's easy to say ONE MAN did it but I'm believing no one was close to ending the speculation this week. We were told it would take weeks or months before we found out what happened to MJ. So no one should be shocked by its slow developments. | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Timmy84 said: More info on the autopsy delay, apparently Arnold Klein is still being investigated:
Jackson Autopsy Results...Don't Hold Your Breath Today 1:25 PM PDT by Josh Grossberg and Art Harris Michael Jackson Kevin Mazur/AEG via Getty Images The world can't wait for the whole Michael Jackson death mystery to be resolved. But apparently the coroner didn't get the memo. Just a day after telling E! News that his office was "still shooting for the end of the week" to announce an official cause of death, Los Angeles County Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter now says the results won't likely be out until next week. While Winter did not specifically state a reason for delay, it appears his office is still trying to gather evidence. Earlier today, a subpoena-packing Winter turned up at the Beverly Hills offices of Dr. Lawrence Koplin. Jackson dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein reportedly once performed a procedure on the singer in Koplin's office. Asked if he had ever seen a case like this before, Winter simply said, "No, I have not." Authorities are trying to build a manslaughter case against Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, and would like corroboration from the coroner. While Murray's lawyer has insisted otherwise, investigators with the LAPD and the DEA believe the doctor gave Jackson a lethal dose of the sedative propofol. Detectives have carried out raids on Murray's Las Vegas home and office and his Houston offices and storage facilities. Capt. John Kades, an investigator with the coroner's office, tells E! News that "every day we get a little closer to the cause of death...[but] nothing has been finalized. "The bottom line is [Jackson] died back on June 25, and at that time we were estimating four to six weeks before we could determine the cause of death. So we're still within that window," he said.  | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: And I don't know whether to believe it or not but if true, just sad and tragic, poor Mike:
Michael Jackson Aliases Include Literary Figure, Jazz Singer And Personal Chef Posted 0 minutes ago by Gil Kaufman in Music When police searched the offices and Las Vegas home of Michael Jackson's physician Dr. Conrad Murray on Tuesday, they were looking for medical records tied to the late singer and "all of his reported aliases." According to authorities, the King of Pop may have used as many as 19 aliases in an attempt to obtain prescription drugs, a list that allegedly includes 19th century American author Jack London (best known for such popular novels as White Fang and The Call of the Wild) and legendary 20th century black expatriate singer/actress Josephine Baker, also known as "Black Pearl." But he also reportedly chose a variety of other lesser-known pseudonyms, including the frequently used Omar Arnold and Michael Amir (the latter the name of one of his employees), as well as Paul Farance, Bryan Singleton and Jimmy Nicholas. According to a recent Rolling Stone story, Arnold was also a name Jackson used when making prank calls to Kenny Ortega, the director of his planned "This Is It" comeback tour. Jackson even appeared to use an adulterated version of one of his tormentors, Blanca Nicholas, from time to time. The name seems to be a play on Blanca Francia, a former maid who claimed that Jackson inappropriately touched her young son. Other names on the list include Roselyn and Faheen Muhammad, as well as Frank Tyson, which may be a reference to the iconic British cricket player from the 1950s known as "Typhoon Tyson." While he seems to have cooked up the name Fernand Diaz, another alias, Kai Chase, is actually the name of one of the singer’s personal chefs. But one alias hit even closer to home: Prince Jackson, a false handle that isn't really false at all, but rather the birth name of Jackson's oldest son. Lord Jeebus Christ in me....
Pray even more for his family and kiddies. I'm praying more for his kids. Hope they don't hear this shit. | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: Lord Jeebus Christ in me....
Pray even more for his family and kiddies. I'm praying more for his kids. Hope they don't hear this shit. Truth. Tito said in Jamaica that they are kept away from newspapers and thier internet is monitored. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: I'm praying more for his kids. Hope they don't hear this shit. Truth. Tito said in Jamaica that they are kept away from newspapers and thier internet is monitored. Great news. | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: Lord Jeebus Christ in me....
Pray even more for his family and kiddies. I'm praying more for his kids. Hope they don't hear this shit. They going to find out eventually but yeah I agree with you .. | |
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Ok.
Michael said back in an interview in the early 00's that he went out in disguises to pioneer as a Jehovah's Witness? Ya think he did it recently? Last time we saw him go to the Kingdom was during the trial, when he took the kiddies there,. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: I'm praying more for his kids. Hope they don't hear this shit. They going to find out eventually but yeah I agree with you .. Of course, but better not any sooner than couple of years later. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: I'm praying more for his kids. Hope they don't hear this shit. They going to find out eventually but yeah I agree with you .. Eventually. Not now. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: Ok.
Michael said back in an interview in the early 00's that he went out in disguises to pioneer as a Jehovah's Witness? Ya think he did it recently? Last time we saw him go to the Kingdom was during the trial, when he took the kiddies there,. I don't know, he might've.  | |
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jamgirl said: babybugz said: They going to find out eventually but yeah I agree with you .. Eventually. Not now. Hopefully not | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: Ok.
Michael said back in an interview in the early 00's that he went out in disguises to pioneer as a Jehovah's Witness? Ya think he did it recently? Last time we saw him go to the Kingdom was during the trial, when he took the kiddies there,. I don't know, he might've. I'm a bible believia maself. It's been glad to see that all through his persoanl demons, Mike still prayed to God and raised his kids like that. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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ehuffnsd said: Mstrustme said:  I don't disagree w/ what he typed, it's his tone that wasn't correct  i'm a drug addict i've suffered with the result of meth addict for nearly ten years. i know first hand what it's like to have a drug problem. i know what it's like to show up to work high and what it's like to come up with excuses for my problem instead of dealing with the issue head on. yeah it's easy to blame my issues on my childhood, but in the end it's me the chose to pick up the pipe, not my dealer, not my tricks, not my friends at the time, not my parents, no one but myself. that is why i'm highly critical of all of you that try to make excuses for Michael and his addiction. he chose to not deal with his problems and escape through drugs. and as they say in NA there are only three results to drug addiction Jails Institutions and Death. I agree that Micheal was responsible for his addiction, but there were professionals who took an oath to "do no harm" who enabled him to continue in the addiction. Michael has paid the ultimate price for his actions. The doctors should pay a price as well. | |
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tmo1965 said: ehuffnsd said: i'm a drug addict i've suffered with the result of meth addict for nearly ten years. i know first hand what it's like to have a drug problem. i know what it's like to show up to work high and what it's like to come up with excuses for my problem instead of dealing with the issue head on. yeah it's easy to blame my issues on my childhood, but in the end it's me the chose to pick up the pipe, not my dealer, not my tricks, not my friends at the time, not my parents, no one but myself. that is why i'm highly critical of all of you that try to make excuses for Michael and his addiction. he chose to not deal with his problems and escape through drugs. and as they say in NA there are only three results to drug addiction Jails Institutions and Death. I agree that Micheal was responsible for his addiction, but there were professionals who took an oath to "do no harm" who enabled him to continue in the addiction. Michael has paid the ultimate price for his actions. The doctors should pay a price as well. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: I don't know, he might've. I'm a bible believia maself. It's been glad to see that all through his persoanl demons, Mike still prayed to God and raised his kids like that. Yeah it is. MJ was always a spiritual dude. | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: I'm a bible believia maself. It's been glad to see that all through his persoanl demons, Mike still prayed to God and raised his kids like that. Yeah it is. MJ was always a spiritual dude.  Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: tmo1965 said: I agree that Micheal was responsible for his addiction, but there were professionals who took an oath to "do no harm" who enabled him to continue in the addiction. Michael has paid the ultimate price for his actions. The doctors should pay a price as well. co- they are bound by the hypcratic oath to ethically practice medicine and do no harm. MJ was totally victimized. All of those docs need to lose their license and spend some time behind bars.
Plus weren't some of them the same docs who supplied Anna Nicole? [Edited 7/29/09 14:49pm] | |
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