Did anyone read about Karen Faye's comments from the KOP Board:-?

dag said:

Something on the lines of her best friend being killed.

suga10 said:

Well, duh! lol

It ain't like she's saying anything different from Joe or 'Toya or 'em.

ehuffnsd said:

Yeah I see that. I saw the account of Elvis' final years and it was not a pretty picture either. Instead of starving himself tho, he was overfeeding himself a lot of food, got fat and then used drugs as comfort. He overdosed a dozen of times before he finally croaked in his bathroom nonetheless. They took a long while trying to revive him before he was pronounced dead at the hospital. Eerie that the same thing happened to Michael!

Anyways moving on,

does anyone think Murray might have injected MJ when he was sleeping?

I don't know if he was awake or not but he did call Frank Dileo the night before saying that he wasn't feeling well.

StillDirrty said:

That stood out more than anything. Sounds like Michael was real ill before he died.

Jackson 5 Knew Nanny was a Drip

Wednesday, July 29, 2009
Celebrity, Music / By Roger Friedman
Tags: Michael Jackson

While the minute details of Dr. Conrad Murray’s movements are being combed over, there are other people in Michael Jackson’s life who probably should be examined for their roles in his death.

Sources tell me that during Michael’s 2005 child molestation trial, his nanny and aide-de-camp, Grace Rwaramba, kept an IV drip at his bedside. Rwaramba slept in a cot at the foot of his bed.

It’s unclear what was in the IV, but considering what’s come out since Michael’s death, it’s not too much of a jump to think that Rwaramba was giving him Propofol. The singer started using the powerful anesthesia at least in the early 90s, administered by a variety of people.

What makes this 2005 scenario remarkable is that several of Michael’s brothers, including Jermaine, Tito, and Randy, all saw the IV drip and the cot. They discussed it at length, but no one did anything about it.

This may be because, as I wrote in June 2005, Jermaine had had a romantic relationship with the nanny. Michael never knew it.

But as I also wrote at the time, Jackson had spent the better part of the five-month trial appearing in court as if he were stoned or sedated. His morning arrivals were always full of drama including one when he showed up in pajamas.

Now my sources conclude that Grace was putting Michael out and then waking him up in the morning. The story as I wrote it then was called “Is Jacko Cut Off From Family by Nanny?”

What’s striking about this is that several times during Jackson’s stay in Bahrain, Rwaramba was said to have returned to the U.S. alone. Insiders said at the time she was picking up Jackson’s prescription medications. No one knew what those were at the time.

Today, Rwaramba has, according to sources, installed herself at the Jackson home in Encino and is preying on Katherine Jackson as a kind of Rasputin. “She’s chewing Katherine’s ear off about the real Michael who only she knew,” says a source. “If only Katherine knew what Grace really did to Michael, she’d throw her out.”

Friedman says something

http://www.showbiz411.com/

OK, so let´s sum it up. MJ´s given a drug which makes you stop breathing in 10 seconds BEFORE he goes to sleep, however, he is found not breathing at 9 am and the ambulace is called at 12pm? I feel like killing someone....
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OK, so let´s sum it up. MJ´s given a drug which makes you stop breathing in 10 seconds BEFORE he goes to sleep, however, he is found not breathing at 9 am and the ambulace is called at 12pm? I feel like killing someone....
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Katherine Jackson Believes in Hitting Kids

Monday, July 27, 2009
Music / By Roger Friedman
Tags: Michael Jackson

This is a shock: all these years, we thought only Michael Jackson’s father, Joseph, hit his kids. He’s talked about “beating” them as a method of discipline many times.

But now the Family Court in Los Angeles, considering who gets custody of Michael’s three children, may be interested in reading Katherine Jackson’s 1990 autobiography, “My Family, the Jacksons.” What Katherine wrote with Richard Wiseman should be of some interest not only to the court, but to Debbie Rowe, mother of the two eldest children, as well.

“Nowadays when you spank a child a bit too much, the public calls it child abuse. However, I favor corporal punishment—even for a fifteen year old. God knows that when I misbehaved as a teenager, my mother didn’t hesitate to take me to the woodshed.”

This would be alarming enough considering that all three children—Prince, Paris, and Blanket—are all under the age of fifteen. But Katherine also writes, on page 40 of the paperback edition:

“I believe that children should be made to fear misbehaving, to think, If I do this, or don’t do this, I’m going to have to answer to my mother or father. (Italics from the original.)

Katherine concedes that she rarely spanked her children. “Usually they were good around me, and, since I have a mild temper anyway, it took blatant misbehavior to get me angry.”

However—and this may be vitally important to the Family Court—she continued:

“Joe, by contrast, was excitable. Occasionally I felt that he hit the kids too hard, or too long. In those circumstances I would ask him to ease up.”

Katherine recalls different instances of how Joe Jackson would terrorize his children. He actually made them drink Castor oil, and often put on Halloween masks and broke into their rooms through the window. “Each time the kids ran thought Joe was a burglar, and ran screaming into the living room.”

Joe Jackson’s actions against his kids isn’t pleasant, but it’s also not surprising. What is shocking, however, is Katherine Jackson’s attitude. “One thing I can’t stand, ” she wrote, “is a sassy child.”

For Paris, who’s 11 and clearly speaks her mind, Prince, who’s 12, and just hitting puberty, and Blanket, 7, and just realizing he’s an orphan, these certainly could be ominous words.

dag said:

And that official said he was using it for approximately two years. Plus he was already dead when Murray "tried to revive him".
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dag said:

And that official said he was using it for approximately two years. Plus he was already dead when Murray "tried to revive him".
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Timmy84 said:

Did that official say it officially or is there a video of him saying that?

Well, of course if he was dead if he was trying to revive him several hours after him not breathing....
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dag said:

I don't know about a video but he's quoted as saying that MJ was using it for that long.

I don't know about worries about being poisoned. I wonder if he felt his family was trying to kill him since it was happening in Neverland, who knows why he was scared and what he was scared of. I'm actually amused Dick is even speaking out. Fool said he was gonna go on fast for 40 days "until the truth comes out", lol.

Nutritionist: Jackson "Didn't Want to Eat Food"...Fried Chicken, Juice, Trail Mix Excepted

Move over, Atkins. Step aside, Master Cleanse. We are proud to present the Michael Jackson diet.

Just when you thought you knew everything there was to know about the months leading up to the King of Pop's death, out pops former Jackson nutritionist Cherilyn Lee—who, luckily for us, never met a camera she didn't like—to shed some light on the question that's really plaguing the minds of the music legend's fans: Forget the toxicology report. Forget the multiple home raids. What, oh what, did M.J. like to eat?

Take it away, Lee.

"He loved trail mix," she told E! News. "And once a month he had to have fried chicken."

The odd smattering of snack and junk food aside, Lee said Jackson generally subsisted on what was more or less a liquid, juice-based diet. Or at least he did up until she parted ways with the singer in April, at which point he apparently moved on to more substantial fare.

Like granola.

Lee said she first joined forces with Jackson back in January, after a mutual friend asked her to drop in on the pop star's home when one of his children came down with the flu. She quickly took Jackson himself on as a patient.

"He said, 'Well, you know I'm feeling tired,' " she recalled. "'I'm getting ready for the concerts. I would love to have as much energy as possible, so what can I do with my diet and nutrition?' "

Lee quickly put him on a diet of juice and smoothies "to meet the needs of a couple things that were slightly out of bounds" for the singer.

As for why the nutritionist didn't opt for more of a solid meal plan, she said Jackson preferred his meals in liquid form.

"His whole thing was that he didn't really want to eat food."

He did, however, love his "caffeine-laced drinks," which Lee said added to his problem with low blood sugar. And while Jackson may have been food-averse himself, she denies he was underweight or that his preferences ever affected the children.

"They had structure," she said. "They sat down and had dinner together at night. Even though he'd say a lot of times, 'I'm not hungry,' this is what he wanted to do. He was a prime example of a very good father."

Not such a good patient, though.

Lee said it was around April that Jackson began having problems sleeping and started asking her for Diprivan, which she refused him, despite his persistent requests.

"What he tried to reassure me was that 'I will be safe...I will be safe just as long as someone monitors me.'

"He said, 'I'm tired of taking things to try to help me to sleep and I want to go to sleep right away. I don't want to wait for hours. I want to be knocked out.' Those were his words: 'I want to be knocked out and go to sleep.' "

According to Cherilyn Lee, this was part of MJ's food regiment besides fried chicken and juice:

Timmy84 said:

I knew I loved Mike b4...but now...