ehuffnsd said:

Yeah it IS sad. one of my best mate's like that. he takes pride in his masculinity. and his defense is that feminen gay guys and drag queens give the gay community a bad name. they make us look weirder etc. I always say to him grow some balls and be out there yourself if you want to project a certain image. these are the same people who have personal ads like ''straight-acting guy looking for similar''. It's bad enough we have gender-roles, now we have to deal with sexual orientation roles

lol way off topic. mods feel free to delete
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Moonbeam said:

ok yeah the second version was unneeed

ehuffnsd said:

I Want You is HOT.

LightOfArt said:

I HATE the term "straight acting. All my gay brothers and sisters are great - I don't care if they're feminine, masculine, whatever. If it makes them happy, great.

VoicesCarry said:

ehuffnsd said:

yeah...you?

Moonbeam said:

and some double big love for Moonie!!

1 of 3 new tracks? 2nd time i've heard this....


end of article....




Celebration: iTunes Worldwide Chart Positions
Here is how Madonna's Celebration is doing on iTunes around the world today Tuesday 04 August:
#1 - Finland
#1 - Italy
#1 - Netherlands
#1 - Spain
#1 - Sweden
#2 - Belgium
#2 - Norway
#3 - Greece
#4 - Canada
#6 - France
#6 - Switzerland
#7 - Portugal
#29 - Australia
#49 - Luxembourg
#55 - USA

CHIC0 said:

after 4 jello shots i thought it would be to go home instead of going to Rich's

ehuffnsd said:

No, it isn't. I'll take "One More Chance" over that horrible cover if I have to take one of them. Thankfully, she has plenty of songs that are better than either of them.

AlexdeParis said:

ehuffnsd said:

I agree with you completely, Its just to bad there are people like graecophilos who are so conflicted because of all the opression.

anyway back to Madonna: I LOVE superpop!

RKJCNE said:

Me, too. Of course, I love all the Confessions outtakes. "Fighting Spirit," "Super Pop," "Keep the Trance," "History" -- I love 'em all.
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AlexdeParis said:

Fighting Spirit is my favorite of the outtakes, but Super Pop would definitely be up there if it weren't for the lyrics.

AlexdeParis said:

Yeah they are all great, I really think she was at her artistic peak during confessions. Although I lover all her work before hand she just seemed so inspired then, and HC was such a disappointing follow up to me.

RKJCNE said:

seriously?

errant said:

Yeah I think the entire look, sound and stage tour of confessions was her most creative, I do think Like a Prayer was her best album, but I think Confessions shows growth as an Artist.

RKJCNE said:

to me, she was treading water, pandering for a comeback from the more artistic/more annoying/more interesting/most unsuccessful American Life by throwing her gay fans a bone with some Kylie-esque euro-disco. different strokes, i guess.

Moonbeam said:

Thanks for bringing us back to the topic. The gay civil rights thing is fascinating but this is a Madonna thread....Oh, yeah.

I really like "You'll See" and "I Want You" definately gets better with age. It's a really cool interpretation. Now "One More Chance"....ugh! I think there is a good reason why she released that remix of "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" (I gotta get that version somehow..I liked it).

errant said:

I can see that perception, for me it appeared as more of a back to basic, returning to your roots sort of thing after AL (although i love that one too) flopped. I think she pulled of the greatest dance album ever.

RKJCNE said:

the sound of Confessions has absolutely nothing to do with her roots. her roots are r&b based post-disco dance-pop. Confessions is straight up euro-disco circa 2005.

sorry, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I've always wondered where people got this idea that Confessions is a return to her roots. yeah, it's aimed squarely at the dance floor, but it's not her roots. Hard Candy is closer to her roots, even if it is even more vapid and trendy than Confessions.

graecophilos said:

that should be your

American Life

I listened to this album for the first time a few minutes ago, and I love it!

The mixture of guitar, electronica, and orchestral arrangements is great. The songs are tender, introspective. It reminds me so much of the Music album -- that quiet, experimental approach. I love when Madonna doesn't "do Madonna", and I love this kind of spare work from her a lot more than the gloss and blend of Confessions and Hard Candy. Of course, I do love to hear her bust out with a great dance tune, but I respect the fact that she can subvert her own artistic canon.

heartbeatocean said:

I really do/did love this album, though the thing that brings it way down for me is the "waaaaah, I'm rich and famous, poor me. do as I say and not as I do" mentality of the lyrics. most of the songs themselves are really great, though, barring I'm So Stupid and the title track.
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CrozzaUK said:

It's weird the way some people spend so much time on artists that they don't like I can't stand R.Kelly or Kid Rock,so you wouldn't see me on the threads devoted to them,wasting my time analyzing,discussing,and debating their music.I've never even listened to any of their albums all the way through! I've always said that,when you decide that an artist is untalented or not your cup of tea,then there is no way that you can analyze their music honestly and objectively.If someone hands you their latest CD,you're automatically gonna say it's garbage.

Madonna is not someone I pay much attention to these days


and yet,you seem to know how all of her recent music sounds.You know the lyrics,you know who the producers are,etc.

I gotta hand it to Madonna,though.Even the haters can't seem to completely ignore her

LightOfArt said:

None of you did get what I mean and since at least one person got what I mean, but of course his post was not quoted, I assume I didn't talk shit.

But I'm not gonna defend my opinion since you're not even listening to what I'm saying.

You don't have to put on travesty as the ultimate sign for a healthy and modern society.

CrozzaUK said:

I agree with this.I've accepted the fact that,for the most part,pop music is dead and has been dead for many years.Nobody is doing anything that hasn't already been done before.So I don't expect brilliance everytime.Just give me a good album with at least four great songs and I'm satisfied.'Confessions' and 'Hard Candy' satisfied me.It's unrealistic to expect another 'Like A Prayer' or 'Ray Of Light'.That's like expecting Prince to deliver another '1999' or 'Sign O The Times'.It ain't gonna happen.

SoulAlive said:

After 55 years of pop music I agree, there ain't no melodies left, no rhythms aunplayed and no chord sequence not hit on an instrument.

Everything today is just watered or a rip-off or a cover/sample-loaded song...

but let's face it: In the 1950s and early 60s a lot of pop music soudned the same as well. People used those blues and doo-wop chord patterns and fro that point people began experimenting more since the mid-60s.

LightOfArt said:

who says straight acting? you never met me. I just didn't sign a contract for being effeminate.

errant said:

then one could argue that her real musical root is punk-new-wave-rock-pop. That's what she did first.

But her roots began growing since she was a child, and then she loved Motown - everything you could dance to and with a good melody.