Timmy84 said:

yeah they're wrong for doing that. They know damn well Mike never wore all that stuff together.

matthewgrant said:

Timmy84 said:

HA, someone needs to throw a hat on him too! i'm not quite sure who it is yet

matthewgrant said:

I have no idea what era they have picked there. Looks like they have spliced several together and come up with this.

Only the Queen has had more versions. I'd love to see a J5 Mike.

Raymone Bain talks about Dr. Klein

http://www.accesshollywoo...eo_1134119

Marrk said:

It's the 1991 pose from Black or White with the Billie Jean jacket from the "Dangerous"/"HIStory" tours with the white arm band with the arm brace from the Black or White video.

bboy87 said:

she is so defending him now, I don't understand

matthewgrant said:

E Casanova?

seeingvoices12 said:

You know what I said earlier about kissing people's remains by defending them while talking shit when they were ripe enough to hear you (alive)?

Custody Hearing over Jackson's Children Postponed
By Elaine Aradillas
07/10/09




The custody hearing for temporary guardianship of Michael Jackson's children scheduled for Monday has been rescheduled for July 20 at the request of Katherine Jackson and Debbie Rowe, according to court officials.

"All prior orders remain in full force and effect, with Katherine Jackson as temporary guardian of the children," according to a Los Angeles Superior Court statement released Friday afternoon.

Michael Jackson's kids – Prince Michael I, 12, Paris, 11, and Prince Michael II (Blanket), 7 – have been living with their grandmother, Katherine, and staying at her Encino, Calif., home since the death of the pop icon on June 25.

Rowe, who is the biological mother of Prince and Paris, has not filed a petition for temporary guardianship, says a courthouse spokesperson. Blanket's mother has never been identified.

Last week, Rowe's attorney Eric George, said, "The truth is that Debbie has not reached a final decision concerning the pending custody proceedings."

This came on the heels of Rowe telling her former attorney and close friend Iris Finsilver that she intended to pursue custody. "Frankly, she won't have to fight for them, " Finsilver told PEOPLE. "She is the children's biological mother. She loves her children."

But Jackson's mother, Katherine, was named the guardian of his three children in his will, which was revealed last week. A source close to the family says of the Jacksons: "They will fight."

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Custody Hearing over Jackson's Children Postponed
By Elaine Aradillas
07/10/09




The custody hearing for temporary guardianship of Michael Jackson's children scheduled for Monday has been rescheduled for July 20 at the request of Katherine Jackson and Debbie Rowe, according to court officials.

"All prior orders remain in full force and effect, with Katherine Jackson as temporary guardian of the children," according to a Los Angeles Superior Court statement released Friday afternoon.

Michael Jackson's kids – Prince Michael I, 12, Paris, 11, and Prince Michael II (Blanket), 7 – have been living with their grandmother, Katherine, and staying at her Encino, Calif., home since the death of the pop icon on June 25.

Rowe, who is the biological mother of Prince and Paris, has not filed a petition for temporary guardianship, says a courthouse spokesperson. Blanket's mother has never been identified.

Last week, Rowe's attorney Eric George, said, "The truth is that Debbie has not reached a final decision concerning the pending custody proceedings."

This came on the heels of Rowe telling her former attorney and close friend Iris Finsilver that she intended to pursue custody. "Frankly, she won't have to fight for them, " Finsilver told PEOPLE. "She is the children's biological mother. She loves her children."

But Jackson's mother, Katherine, was named the guardian of his three children in his will, which was revealed last week. A source close to the family says of the Jacksons: "They will fight."

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Timmy84 said:

No interest in what Bain has to say, she's after 40-odd million dollars. fuck her!

Marrk said:

Yeah, I can't stand her either.
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i have a relative who has a chronic illness- she copes with it by taking prescription meds- she's at the point now where her organs are failing- she has high blood pressure and diabetes- she virtually blind. she too has many friends and and family that love her-she is one of the nicest people you could know. we have tried many times to intervene with her diet choices, etc.. and yes we have gotten upset, but-

if she passes, there is no way on this side of life would i ever think of mocking or degrading her because of the poor choices she made dealing with her issues.

it is underneath humanity to treat MJ this way-alive or dead- dig up dirt and tell half truths about his personal affairs and family issues

some of the tabloids, journalists and members of the org disgust me

Has Prince himself released a statement about Michael's passing?

Every other celebrity seems to, and considering their rivalry and places in pop culture history I would be interested in what he had to say...

Michael Jackson and Motown: the boy behind the marketing
Even when Michael Jackson karoomed to fame, there was a lie behind the image of the adorable child star.

By Helen Brown
Published: 4:42PM BST 26 Jun 2009

It's been said that Michael Jackson was a God who became a mere celebrity. And for pop fans, his early recordings really do have something transcendent, otherwordly – call it divine if you want – about them. The first single he released with The Jackson Five, 1969's "I Want You Back" is arguably the greatest pop record of all time and certainly the fastest man-made route to pure joy.

Much of this is down to superb songwriting and production from Berry Gordy's Motown hit factory (it was the most expensive song they'd produced to that date) but the key, thriller factor is the voice of pre-teen Michael Jackson. Somehow, the eleven-year-old boy had wrapped his head and heart around lyrics of adult romance (originally written for Gladys Knight or Diana Ross), performed them with the professionalism of a musician who'd listened hard to the likes of Sam Cooke, James Brown and Ray Charles – and then injected them with the sheer, unadulterated exuberance of childhood. It was an extraordinary sound. No wonder the record karoomed straight to number one in the US, and number two in the UK.

But, from the beginning, there was a lie behind the image of this adorable child star: Motown records told the public Jackson was only nine to make him appear cuter. A record label might have tried the same stunt with a white child, although there lurks the uncomfortable suspicion that the American public (which had just lived through five years of race riots) were more likely to be won over by a pre-pubertal black boy. From the beginning, his sexuality (or lack of it) was subject to spin. While much of the blame for his later personality issues has been placed on Michael's abusive father, some of his confusion must have spring from the way in which the music industry felt the need to manipulate his image. The idea that the public might not love the 'real' Michael would have conveyed a potentially damaging message to a boy who was already feeling far from loved at home. A less troubling Motown myth was that the Jackson Five had been 'discovered' by Diana Ross, whose post-Supremes solo career was just being launched.

In fact, the first big name stars to 'discover' the family band from Gary, Indiana were R&B stars Sam & Dave. The Jackson Brothers had originally formed back in 1964, the group's first incarnation composed of Michael's older brothers Jackie, Tito and Jermaine joined by their friends Reynaud Jones and Milford Hite. But by 1965, younger brothers Michael and Marlon had joined the band on tambourine and congas, with Michael beginning to exhibit extraordinary talent for singing and dancing just before his eighth birthday. After winning a school talent contest the boys began professional gigging around Indiana and Chicago, including playing at strip clubs. They got a deal with local label Steeltown and scored local hits which drew the attention of Sam & Dave, who helped them move up the circuit where they were seen by Gladys Knight and the Pips who told Motown's Berry Gordy about them and he bought them out of their Steeltown contract, initially giving them covers of Smokey Robinson and Sly & The Family Stones songs to cover in Detroit, before shipping them out to California. Here Gordy put together a team of songwriters and producers called "The Corporation" specifically for the band. He'd had enough of "backroom superstars" like songwriters Holland-Dozier-Holland who'd left his label back in 1967. The Corporation's job was to combine the classic Motown sound with teen-themed lyrics they nicknamed "bubblegum soul". And the team would create most of the band's most memorable singles including "I Want You Back", "ABC", "The Love You Save" and "Mama's Pearl".

Gordy's slick marketing had taken the black family into the mainstream, and alongside the music came the merchandise. As Jacksonmania swept America at the dawn of the 1970s, there were stickers, posters, even a cartoon series. As Berkeley-based music critic Greil Marcus wrote: "Jacksonism produced the image of a pop explosion, an event in which pop music crosses political, economic, geographic and racial barriers; in which a new world is suggested.

Michael Jackson occupied the centre of American cultural life: no other black artist had ever come close. But a pop explosion not only links those otherwise separated by class, place, color and money; it also divides. Confronted with performers as appealing and disturbing as Elvis Presley, the Beatles or the Sex Pistols – people who raise the possibility of living in a new way – some respond and some don't. It became clear that Michael Jackson's explosion was of a new kind […] It was the first pop explosion not to be judged by the subjective quality of the response it provoked, but to be measured by the number of objective commercial exchanges it elicited. Michael Jackson was absolutely correct when he announced, at the height of his year [1984], that his greatest achievement was a Guinness Book of World Records award certifying that Thriller had generated more top-ten singles (seven) than any other LP – and not, as might have been expected ... "to have proven that music is a universal language," or even "to have demonstrated that with God's help your dreams can come true."

Listening to the news and reading the obituaries today, those sales figures keep coming up. And it is worth asking if that would be the case if it was, say, Paul McCartney who'd just died. Michael Jackson is – and always was – a star whose place in musical history was measured in units not critical plaudits.

Berry Gordy saw Michael's solo potential from the start and launched a spin-off solo career for him in 1971. But by the mid 1970s the Jacksons were frustrated by Motown's failure to update their image, let them write their own songs and play their own instruments. They wanted to be musicians, not sticker album stars. Jermaine stayed behind with Motown (having married Berry's daughter Hazel Gordy 1973) but the rest of the Jacksons moved to CBS in 1976, and released their biggest post-Motown single Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground) (written by Michael and Randy) in 1978.

Motown had helped shape the man Michael was to become – for better and for worse. And the label would not have another success of their calibre for the duration of the Berry Gordy era. Gordy often referred to The Jackson 5 as "the last big stars to come rolling off the assembly line." But listening to those early records now is still an exceptionally uplifting experience. Although we now know how unhappy little Michael was at that time, he has also said he was only happy while performing. It's as though he saved up and released all his pre-teen joy on those jubilant: "A buh buh buh buys" Not a God at all, just a little boy with a great gift.
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ProtegeGlow said:

This is like the billionth time someone's asked this...

ProtegeGlow said:

This is like the billionth time someone's asked this...

Timmy84 said:

Sorry! I tried to find the answer already but his thread is so freaking long and the search feature doesn't work so I had to ask! Got the answer?

It's getting harder for me to deal with this. I hate that the kids are now being shown in the tabloids. I'm really sad and angry.

Timmy84 said:

I know you are trying to distance yourself, but post something we dont already know.

If you own the vast majority of that stuff, None of that article you posted makes that 11/12yr old any less amazing does it?

Copycat said:

She's STILL undecided about whether to get custody or not? Then why the hell did she at first seem lenient to do so? Whatever with her.