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Rating American Idol Winners Kelly Clarkson - Deserved it 100%
Ruben Studdard - Undeserved. Clay Aiken should have won Fantasia Barrino - Undeserved. Jennifer Hudson should have won Carrie Underwood - Deserved it 100% Taylor Hicks - AN UTTER TRAVESTY. Daughtry should have won Jordin Sparks - Cop out. Melinda should have won David Cook - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris Allen - Acceptable. Could be argued however. | |
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Kelly Clarkson has a ton of songs that i like but the other winners have none that impress me. Daughtry is pretty good tho! | |
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They are all absolute shit.  Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: They are all absolute shit.
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the gay boy didn't win? You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: the gay boy didn't win?
Nope. | |
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Timmy84 said: Moonbeam said: They are all absolute shit.
It's true! Everyone who has come out that show is vapid and produces the same "safe", artless music that caters to people who don't really care about music in the first place. It's Eurovision for America. And it makes it that much more difficult for legit artists to have a chance to get any kind of exposure. It is a pox on our society. Kelly Clarkson? Pop/rock-lite Ruben? R&B-lite Clay Aiken? Pop-lite Fantastia? R&B/Soul-lite Carrie Underwood? Crap country-lite Daughtry? Nickelback/Creed/Hinder/godawful "rock"-lite  Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Timmy84 said: It's true! Everyone who has come out that show is vapid and produces the same "safe", artless music that caters to people who don't really care about music in the first place. It's Eurovision for America. And it makes it that much more difficult for legit artists to have a chance to get any kind of exposure. It is a pox on our society. Kelly Clarkson? Pop/rock-lite Ruben? R&B-lite Clay Aiken? Pop-lite Fantastia? R&B/Soul-lite Carrie Underwood? Crap country-lite Daughtry? Nickelback/Creed/Hinder/godawful "rock"-lite No you're absolutely right. That's why I can't stand the show. Adam and Kris really didn't have to be on that show. They're gonna try their best to make their careers crappy, I just know it!
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Timmy84 said: Moonbeam said: It's true! Everyone who has come out that show is vapid and produces the same "safe", artless music that caters to people who don't really care about music in the first place. It's Eurovision for America. And it makes it that much more difficult for legit artists to have a chance to get any kind of exposure. It is a pox on our society. Kelly Clarkson? Pop/rock-lite Ruben? R&B-lite Clay Aiken? Pop-lite Fantastia? R&B/Soul-lite Carrie Underwood? Crap country-lite Daughtry? Nickelback/Creed/Hinder/godawful "rock"-lite No you're absolutely right. That's why I can't stand the show. Adam and Kris really didn't have to be on that show. They're gonna try their best to make their careers crappy, I just know it!
Don't forget Jordan! I don't watch the show, so my only exposure to these "artists" comes from their cookie-cutter videos featuring their beiger than beige songs come on TV here.  Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Timmy84 said: No you're absolutely right. That's why I can't stand the show. Adam and Kris really didn't have to be on that show. They're gonna try their best to make their careers crappy, I just know it!
Don't forget Jordan! I don't watch the show, so my only exposure to these "artists" comes from their cookie-cutter videos featuring their beiger than beige songs come on TV here.
I cringed when I saw Ruben Studdard and Fantasia on TV like every other minute. I won't let that happen with Jennifer. | |
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musicjunky318 said: Kelly Clarkson - Deserved it 100%
Ruben Studdard - Undeserved. Clay Aiken should have won Fantasia Barrino - Undeserved. Jennifer Hudson should have won Carrie Underwood - Deserved it 100% Taylor Hicks - AN UTTER TRAVESTY. Daughtry should have won Jordin Sparks - Cop out. Melinda should have won David Cook - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris Allen - Acceptable. Could be argued however. I don't agree with Ruben. Sure, Clay may have been the better singer and all, but people tend to diss Ruben and I don't appreciate it. Ruben is still trying to figure out what he wants to be. Unfortunately for him, with him being a big guy, America will buy his music because he doesn't fit the mold. Ruben should stick to Gospel music. His song with Deitrick Hatton is a really good song. Not to mention his 2nd album was really good and it was Gospel. Gospel is the only musical field that doesn't care what you look like. You will sell regardless. For Fantasia, she should have won, considering she was up against Diana Degarmo. Jennifer got the boot several weeks before. Sure, Jennifer may have been more talented, but you have to remember, Jennifer was dressing crazy (how could we forget the pink pepto-bismal colored dress). She didn't know how to control her voice because she was so used to singing Gospel and showtunes. It wasn't until she started doing her own album that she learned the difference between stage performance and recording performance. As for Fantasia, she has done well. Both of her albums have gone platinum. Her issue is that she is not a cross over audience, but she's one of those similar to Mary J. Blige. Now, agree with you about Taylor Hicks. He should have never gotten on the show. Jordin Sparks won because the others weren't that great. Melinda was good, but Melinda did not have the same appeal that Jordin had. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: musicjunky318 said: Kelly Clarkson - Deserved it 100%
Ruben Studdard - Undeserved. Clay Aiken should have won Fantasia Barrino - Undeserved. Jennifer Hudson should have won Carrie Underwood - Deserved it 100% Taylor Hicks - AN UTTER TRAVESTY. Daughtry should have won Jordin Sparks - Cop out. Melinda should have won David Cook - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris Allen - Acceptable. Could be argued however. I don't agree with Ruben. Sure, Clay may have been the better singer and all, but people tend to diss Ruben and I don't appreciate it. Ruben is still trying to figure out what he wants to be. Unfortunately for him, with him being a big guy, America will buy his music because he doesn't fit the mold. Ruben should stick to Gospel music. His song with Deitrick Hatton is a really good song. Not to mention his 2nd album was really good and it was Gospel. Gospel is the only musical field that doesn't care what you look like. You will sell regardless. For Fantasia, she should have won, considering she was up against Diana Degarmo. Jennifer got the boot several weeks before. Sure, Jennifer may have been more talented, but you have to remember, Jennifer was dressing crazy (how could we forget the pink pepto-bismal colored dress). She didn't know how to control her voice because she was so used to singing Gospel and showtunes. It wasn't until she started doing her own album that she learned the difference between stage performance and recording performance. As for Fantasia, she has done well. Both of her albums have gone platinum. Her issue is that she is not a cross over audience, but she's one of those similar to Mary J. Blige. Now, agree with you about Taylor Hicks. He should have never gotten on the show. Jordin Sparks won because the others weren't that great. Melinda was good, but Melinda did not have the same appeal that Jordin had. So, by saying that Clay was the better singer, you ARE agreeing with musicjunky. People dissed Ruben not because of his weight, but because he has all of this talent and STILL does not know what he wants to do with it. He seems so afraid of letting the "real" Ruben,(who ever that is), that it has hurt his career. When he was on Idol, he was known as the "Velvet Teddy Bear" and got by, by singing Luther songs. He has lost 100 lbs since then so, calling him that is not an option. Ruben needs to do some real soul searching, only then will he know what his calling is. It may be R&B, Gospel, or none of these. Only Ruben knows for sure. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: daPrettyman said: I don't agree with Ruben. Sure, Clay may have been the better singer and all, but people tend to diss Ruben and I don't appreciate it. Ruben is still trying to figure out what he wants to be. Unfortunately for him, with him being a big guy, America will buy his music because he doesn't fit the mold. Ruben should stick to Gospel music. His song with Deitrick Hatton is a really good song. Not to mention his 2nd album was really good and it was Gospel. Gospel is the only musical field that doesn't care what you look like. You will sell regardless. For Fantasia, she should have won, considering she was up against Diana Degarmo. Jennifer got the boot several weeks before. Sure, Jennifer may have been more talented, but you have to remember, Jennifer was dressing crazy (how could we forget the pink pepto-bismal colored dress). She didn't know how to control her voice because she was so used to singing Gospel and showtunes. It wasn't until she started doing her own album that she learned the difference between stage performance and recording performance. As for Fantasia, she has done well. Both of her albums have gone platinum. Her issue is that she is not a cross over audience, but she's one of those similar to Mary J. Blige. Now, agree with you about Taylor Hicks. He should have never gotten on the show. Jordin Sparks won because the others weren't that great. Melinda was good, but Melinda did not have the same appeal that Jordin had. So, by saying that Clay was the better singer, you ARE agreeing with musicjunky. People dissed Ruben not because of his weight, but because he has all of this talent and STILL does not know what he wants to do with it. He seems so afraid of letting the "real" Ruben,(who ever that is), that it has hurt his career. When he was on Idol, he was known as the "Velvet Teddy Bear" and got by, by singing Luther songs. He has lost 100 lbs since then so, calling him that is not an option. Ruben needs to do some real soul searching, only then will he know what his calling is. It may be R&B, Gospel, or none of these. Only Ruben knows for sure. No, I'm not agreeing. I'm saying maybe he's not the better singer, but Ruben was the more popular singer that season. Ruben did lose 100lbs before his last album dropped. He had a personal trainer, chef, etc. at his disposal. They had him on a vegetarian meal plan and he was doing really well. He was featured on Extra and a few other shows talking about it. That was about 2 or 3 years ago. He's since gained a lot of the weight back. I didn't mean for the weight thing to come across as a diss or anything (God knows I have my issues). I get tired of people saying that Ruben and Fantasia are the worst Idols and that haven't been successful when that is not true. Ruben's albums have sold and he has managed to get a r&b or gospel hit from each one. Same for Fantasia. Kidd Kraddick (a local dj and syndicated morning show) is always dissing those 2 on that. It really ticks me off. However, you mention Taylor Hicks and he shuts up or says that it is unexplainable why Taylor won. Just ticks me off. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Moonbeam said: They are all absolute shit.
Overall all.....I agree. | |
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musicjunky318 said: Kelly Clarkson - Deserved it 100%
Ruben Studdard - Undeserved. Clay Aiken should have won Fantasia Barrino - Undeserved. Jennifer Hudson should have won Carrie Underwood - Deserved it 100% Taylor Hicks - AN UTTER TRAVESTY. Daughtry should have won Jordin Sparks - Cop out. Melinda should have won David Cook - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris Allen - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris was the worse winner of all of the seasons of the show. Out of the top 13 this season, 7 or 8 were better singers than Kris. The outcome this year was very suspect. | |
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Graycap23 said: musicjunky318 said: Kelly Clarkson - Deserved it 100%
Ruben Studdard - Undeserved. Clay Aiken should have won Fantasia Barrino - Undeserved. Jennifer Hudson should have won Carrie Underwood - Deserved it 100% Taylor Hicks - AN UTTER TRAVESTY. Daughtry should have won Jordin Sparks - Cop out. Melinda should have won David Cook - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris Allen - Acceptable. Could be argued however. Kris was the worse winner of all of the seasons of the show. Out of the top 13 this season, 7 or 8 were better singers than Kris. The outcome this year was very suspect. Kris is not worse than Taylor. Or as my uncle calls him...that old 40 year old. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Graycap23 said: Kris was the worse winner of all of the seasons of the show. Out of the top 13 this season, 7 or 8 were better singers than Kris. The outcome this year was very suspect. Kris is not worse than Taylor. Or as my uncle calls him...that old 40 year old. Opps.....U are right but he was so bad I forgot about him even though he is on the list above. | |
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U don't understand the deserved/didn't deserve talk, so I'll just say who I did/didn't like:
Kelly Clarkson - awful dresser boring Ruben Studdard - you ain't Luther boring Fantasia Barrino - too much gums boring Carrie Underwood - pretty, blonde and boring (Jesus, take the wheel and crash that mofo) Taylor Hicks - gray and boring Jordin Sparks - young, gigantic head and boring David Cook - five o'clock shadow boring Kris Allen - Starbucks CD coffee shop boring | |
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shorttrini said: daPrettyman said: I don't agree with Ruben. Sure, Clay may have been the better singer and all, but people tend to diss Ruben and I don't appreciate it. Ruben is still trying to figure out what he wants to be. Unfortunately for him, with him being a big guy, America will buy his music because he doesn't fit the mold. Ruben should stick to Gospel music. His song with Deitrick Hatton is a really good song. Not to mention his 2nd album was really good and it was Gospel. Gospel is the only musical field that doesn't care what you look like. You will sell regardless. For Fantasia, she should have won, considering she was up against Diana Degarmo. Jennifer got the boot several weeks before. Sure, Jennifer may have been more talented, but you have to remember, Jennifer was dressing crazy (how could we forget the pink pepto-bismal colored dress). She didn't know how to control her voice because she was so used to singing Gospel and showtunes. It wasn't until she started doing her own album that she learned the difference between stage performance and recording performance. As for Fantasia, she has done well. Both of her albums have gone platinum. Her issue is that she is not a cross over audience, but she's one of those similar to Mary J. Blige. Now, agree with you about Taylor Hicks. He should have never gotten on the show. Jordin Sparks won because the others weren't that great. Melinda was good, but Melinda did not have the same appeal that Jordin had. So, by saying that Clay was the better singer, you ARE agreeing with musicjunky. People dissed Ruben not because of his weight, but because he has all of this talent and STILL does not know what he wants to do with it. He seems so afraid of letting the "real" Ruben,(who ever that is), that it has hurt his career. When he was on Idol, he was known as the "Velvet Teddy Bear" and got by, by singing Luther songs. He has lost 100 lbs since then so, calling him that is not an option. Ruben needs to do some real soul searching, only then will he know what his calling is. It may be R&B, Gospel, or none of these. Only Ruben knows for sure. I think Ruben should kind of do a more classic r&b album with live instruments and stop working with cookie cutter producers. However I dont know if that will help. R&b is not picking up on him. Fantaisa actually sold well on her name, but other than Free Yourself...her singles never really peaked. She is another artist that needs to go the classic route because that is how she won. I LOOVED her last album, it had alot of uptempo r&b cuts that sounded well live. People slept on it and its a shame. Im glad it did eventually go platinum. Kris Im glad he won in a way..now Adam wont have to be locked in2 a null recording contract obligated to be a pop star Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: shorttrini said: So, by saying that Clay was the better singer, you ARE agreeing with musicjunky. People dissed Ruben not because of his weight, but because he has all of this talent and STILL does not know what he wants to do with it. He seems so afraid of letting the "real" Ruben,(who ever that is), that it has hurt his career. When he was on Idol, he was known as the "Velvet Teddy Bear" and got by, by singing Luther songs. He has lost 100 lbs since then so, calling him that is not an option. Ruben needs to do some real soul searching, only then will he know what his calling is. It may be R&B, Gospel, or none of these. Only Ruben knows for sure. I think Ruben should kind of do a more classic r&b album with live instruments and stop working with cookie cutter producers. However I dont know if that will help. R&b is not picking up on him. Fantaisa actually sold well on her name, but other than Free Yourself...her singles never really peaked. She is another artist that needs to go the classic route because that is how she won. I LOOVED her last album, it had alot of uptempo r&b cuts that sounded well live. People slept on it and its a shame. Im glad it did eventually go platinum. Kris Im glad he won in a way..now Adam wont have to be locked in2 a null recording contract obligated to be a pop star Fantasia has done very well, she actually managed to get a number one song off of her last album with "When I See You". I do agree that she should do a traditional r&b album, though. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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That kris guy is so fogettable.
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daPrettyman said: paisleypark4 said: I think Ruben should kind of do a more classic r&b album with live instruments and stop working with cookie cutter producers. However I dont know if that will help. R&b is not picking up on him. Fantaisa actually sold well on her name, but other than Free Yourself...her singles never really peaked. She is another artist that needs to go the classic route because that is how she won. I LOOVED her last album, it had alot of uptempo r&b cuts that sounded well live. People slept on it and its a shame. Im glad it did eventually go platinum. Kris Im glad he won in a way..now Adam wont have to be locked in2 a null recording contract obligated to be a pop star Fantasia has done very well, she actually managed to get a number one song off of her last album with "When I See You". I do agree that she should do a traditional r&b album, though. When I See U went #1? Thats cool. I think more mature audionces will appreciate her than young ones though. Her voice is too above the kid teen idols. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Kelly Clarkson - love her.
Ruben Studdard - I couldn't care less. Fantasia Barrino - love her. Carrie Underwood - hated her at first but now I actually like her. Taylor Hicks - 
Jordin Sparks - don't know her voice.. David Cook - don't know his voice. Kris Allen - I haven't heard him singing but he's hot.  [Edited 5/21/09 20:06pm] | |
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Kelly Clarkson - like her.
Ruben Studdard - i honestly can't remember a thing about him Fantasia Barrino - i think her voice is gross Carrie Underwood - my favorite. love her! Taylor Hicks - wtf is this shit 
Jordan Sparks - i have no idea who she is David Cook - i like David A. better but whatever Kris Allen- he's hot.  | |
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I like Kelly and Fantasia,but none of the otherz.  | |
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Moonbeam said: They are all absolute shit.
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sexxydancer said: I like Kelly and Fantasia,but none of the otherz.
Not even Carrie Underwood? That girl can sing her face off. Not to mention, she's cute as hell. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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I cant put stock in a show where a majority of the general public are voting for things like "high notes" and wardrobe,scandals, whos cuter, whos hotter, whos the biggest freak, whos hair is crazier.....with that said
Katharine Mcphee losing to Taylor Hicks, should have been the cancellation of this show, the reason, people loved her voice and thought she was the best, but people thought she had "attitude", this is a show about voice, not who you wanna chill with!! This year the Kris guy should not have even gotten that far, but this show was trying to stir up some extra ratings and i honestly feel that they may have thought a Kris and Adam showdown was better than a Danny and Adam showdown. Because almost every viewer was thinking Adam was gonna win, and then bam, he lost. To me i tuned in early this season but saw some critical mistakes early on, and then a few getting cut way too early, but all in all, you are almost better if you lose on this show before getting to the top 8 because then you can almost write your own ticket. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Some of them were decent singers, but I would never buy any of their music. | |
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