TheWifey said:

I've been trying to find out what all the recent music is that proves he can still sing. Thus, someone posted the audio with Akon and I gave my opinion, as we are all free to do here.

@ this thread.

I've been an MJ fan since is was 6 back in '76, but really it's obvious to me he's gone in a lot of ways.. I tried hard to get tix for these O2 gigs as i'd seen all his previous tours and the hype got me as it always has, but only fleetingly.

On this, Midnightmover is right, his voice has been in decline all that time.
Each tour has been getting poorer with more lip-synching each time.

I'm not sad to have missed out on the O2 gigs, i just think he'll be hiding behind all these wizz-bang effects, numerous dancers, old video's seen a million times. What he needed was an 'Elvis comeback special' -type affair, Sit and sing, not explosions and shit.

Hope his new album, (if one is coming) will at least be artistic, but from who he's allied himself to in this last year, i don't hold out much hope.

Frustrating.

Marrk said:

Console yourself in the fact that nothing will ever be betetr than the bad tour if you went even with all the special effects - Im same longterm fan from 82' but also not paticularly fuissed or excited bout the O2 gigs - I do have a ticket for one night but not overly fussed

I starting to think MJ won't make the 50 dates it's just too much, Prince did 21 and so i know MJ could do 22-25 dates ...i'm lucky i missed the first wave of cancelled tickets until 2010 ....

But for him to break Prince's record he has to do 21 nights ...my tickets are in the 21 night run so let's hope he can make say 25 nights before calling it off or pushing the other 25 nights into 2010.....

LondonStyle said:

Well, I have this standing bet with cdcgold, which was made before the other shows were announced:

"If he does the minimum 10 shows where he actually SINGS ALL THE SONGS (no lip-syncing, back tracks ok if live mic & you can tell he's singing), I'll have to come on here and post some "you were right, eat my words, etc..". If he doesn't, then vice versa for you.

Hell, if he even shows up for at least 5 of the first 10 shows, I'll come post the little bowing emoti!"

As things are working out, I don't think I'll even have to break out the bowing emoticon.

Swa said:

If u can make the new date for the opening night ..... people have commitments now, his 80's fans now have familys, work, family holidays etc, and thats presuming they live within easy reach of London, lots of people are coming from all over the UK, Europe and probably the world for these gigs.

Thats the prblem with these venue gigs, if u don't live near the venus its a pain to attend, at least with a tour you have the option to attend a gig relatively close, at least drivable within a couple of hours, when a gig is re-arranged, is not as much as a problem if its closeby, but at a venu gig yoiu may have hotels, flights and chilcare to sort, which may mean people cannot attend the re-arranged gigs.

kremlinshadow said:

Oh i do. I think he's finished more than likely, I'd love to be proved wrong, it'd be great if he can hang w/ Prince and Stevie at the O2, but this unravelling mess could be the final nail in the coffin that has become his career, if he doesn't pull this out, he really is done. The general public can forgive him for ending up in court accused of the worst crime imaginable, but he doesn't hit that stage right and correct? he's fucked.

It's that critical.

suga10 said:

First of all, let the record show that you dodged all the points I made and simply responded with another question to me. What's more, the question completely ignores what I've said a million times. I've already explained how his voice has steadily declined and the miming has steadily increased. It's now TWENTY TWO YEARS since he did a mime-free concert. After twenty two years I think it's safe to draw a few conclusions, don't you? So instead of asking me redundant questions, why don't you actually respond to the points I've already made? Simple. You don't respond because you can't.


Yet another question that shows huge naivety. Britney's and Madonna's producers always say great things about them too. It's industry protocol. You don't badmouth people you're working with. Also remember, the people you mentioned all grew up as MJ fans. But once again, you're conveniently forgetting things. Will.i.am USED TO say great things about MJ, but not anymore. He won't badmouth him, but the way he dodges questions about him clearly shows that he's disappointed with MJ's behaviour. But again, I'm sure you're completely blind to that fact too. Have you polished your MJ shrine today?
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Serena said:

The fact that these guys actually deny that I even have knowledge of MJ's career only underlines how deluded they are. Any honest person would have to concede my knowledge is pretty deep. I don't keep up with the minutiae of more recent years, but I know the important stuff and I know it far better than they do.

seeingvoices12 said:

You're being devious here. Saying his live voice has "changed" since he was in his 20s is dodging the point. Change isn't necessarily a bad thing (which is why you've chosen that word). The point in MJ's case is that his live singing has gotten much worse, to the point where it often sounds atrocious. That is the point. Until you can bring yourself to admit that, then you are not being honest.
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midnightmover said:

No its not right to draw a few conclusions based on stuff you saw 8 or 12 years ago. The point is you haven't seen his live singing recently to make that judgment, that he is no longer an affective live singer. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

If he doesn't do a good job in these upcoming concerts, you have every right to bash his performance no matter what, and you can say I told you so when that time comes, and I'll happily agree with you too.

But until then, I'm not going to make judgments on the man's singing based on stuff I saw 8 or 12 years ago. I'd rather wait and see how he does now, and then give my opinion.

And yes, you do have a point in terms of how people have to be professional with each other when they're working together, and can't get badmouth them, but that doesn't mean what they're saying isn't true regarding what goes on behind the scenes.

And what do you mean that Will-I-Am is just trying to dodge questions about him . He was just talking about him again a few weeks ago,

http://www.gigwise.com/ne...-Is-Still-
[Edited 5/26/09 11:55am]

Angry MICHAEL JACKSON fans have taken to the internet to protest the superstar's decision to delay his July (09) comeback.

Last week (ends22May09) Jackson postponed his seven-month London residency by five days, pushing the launch of his This Is It tour back to 13 July.
In a statement, promoters AEG and Jackson's choreographer Kenny Ortega claimed the extra time was needed to ensure the spectacular show can go off without a hitch.

But the move has angered fans around the world who had already bought expensive plane tickets to fly into London for the shows - and will now have to wait until March 2010 to see their idol live.

A number of devotees have set up an online petition to protest the postponement. The petition reads, "Many of us who had purchased tickets for the opening concerts and have already purchased flight tickets and hotels etc. have received an email informing us of our concerts being rescheduled not two or three weeks but a grand total of 10 months!

"Many of us now are left unable to go or are feeling disappointed in having taken so much effort to get tickets for the opening performances to be put to the very end of the concert run.

"While we have no idea whose fault this is, whether it is the O2, AEG Live or Michael Jackson himself's decision or fault.

"We the undersigned are asking for the management of the concert to please reconsider this decision."

Jackson has denied the delay was health-related, amid rumours he is suffering from skin cancer.

http://www.contactmusic.c...nt_1104546

NaughtyKitty said:

Ahh, the MJJC fans

The guitarist for the shows

http://www.myspace.com/orianthi
http://twitter.com/Orianthi

wait. MJ has a song called butterflies?

NaughtyKitty said:

^I'm not all that surprised by that tho. I knew something like that was gonna happen sooner or later

NaughtyKitty said:

I didn't think they'd get on with it. Now there's a petition.

I heard that MJ is in London now

I wonder if something's up given all this petition stuff and protests going on.
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suga10 said:

I read a Twitter report that he was at Heathrow Terminal, lol

Timmy84 said:

Yeah that's the one I'm referring to.

is here going there to make an apology announcement
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suga10 said:

Who knows?

NaughtyKitty said:

Michael Jackson fans and petitions go together like a fat kid and chocolate pudding

bboy87 said:

Now that is true!

so far we know the band consists of

michael bearden- musical director
Jonathan Moffett- drums
Orianthi- guitar


Vocalists
LaRae Gainey
Siedah Garrett (not yet confirmed)

bboy87 said:

Damn, he's gotta be quite old now, wasn't he on the Triumph tour?

bboy87 said:

Siedah was a backup singer on Madonna's Re-Invention tour in 2004 She's very talented.

Why does Michael Bearden's name sound so familiar?

suga10 said:

Obtuse. We're talking about hundreds of performances over the last twenty two years. We've seen more than enough to say that he's declined. Please get your head out of the sand. It's not a good look.

Marrk said:

That's what I thought.

Oh, and Siedah Garrett is a lazy choice. She wasn't that good on the Dangerous Tour. No need to hire her again now, other than nostalgia. Hey, what am I talking about? It's a nostalgia show.

SoulAlive said:

Because he's worked with a ton of people as a musician, composer and producer. From jazz to Madonna to Natalie Cole. You've probably seen his name on credits and liner notes somewhere.