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Reply #30 posted 09/04/08 9:46am

Anxiety

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Kurt Kobain should be #1. EASILY.


yeah, cuz nirvana didn't influence any kind of sea change in popular music at all, and nobody really appreciated his lyrics or songwriting. i think you're on to something. lol
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Reply #31 posted 09/04/08 10:17am

kenlacam

Art is totally subjective, so they are entitled to their opinion, but the facts speak for themselves. Tupac is listed in the Guiness Book of World Records as the highest selling rapper OF ALL TIME. Eat it, Blender!!!
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Reply #32 posted 09/04/08 10:52am

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midnightmover said:

Graycap23 said:

Have they heard Madonna?

These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts

eek
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Reply #33 posted 09/04/08 10:52am

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bboy87 said:

midnightmover said:


These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts

eek


Shows you how really valid they are. lol
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Reply #34 posted 09/04/08 10:55am

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bboy87 said:

midnightmover said:


These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts

eek

That says it ALL.
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Reply #35 posted 09/04/08 11:28am

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So, Blender is the voice of pop culture nowadays?

While Tupac may have been overrated depending on what side of the field you're on, labeling him the most overrated of all time in terms of all that is pop culture is one of the most laughable things I've ever heard.

The irony is I've witnessed some Lil' Wayne fans gloat over this choice. confused
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Reply #36 posted 09/04/08 11:39am

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Is 2pac a musician? I though a musician was someone who played an instrument!
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Reply #37 posted 09/04/08 11:46am

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Is 2pac a musician? I though a musician was someone who played an instrument!



A musician is a person who plays or writes music. Musicians can be classified by their roles in creating or performing music:

An instrumentalist plays a musical instrument.
A singer (or vocalist) uses his/her voice as her instrument
Composers, arrangers and songwriters memorize and orally teach, or record their compositions in the form of traditional notation or audio recording.
A conductor leads a musical ensemble. A conductor can simultaneously act as an instrumentalist in the ensemble.

2pac fullfills 2 and 3.

source - wikipedia.
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Reply #38 posted 09/04/08 11:50am

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midnightmover said:

Graycap23 said:

Have they heard Madonna?

These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts

eek eek eek Tell me you're joking? You've got to be kidding me? This was in Blender? If that's the case I will cancel my subscription with them ASAP.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #39 posted 09/04/08 12:01pm

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purplecam said:

midnightmover said:


These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts

eek eek eek Tell me you're joking? You've got to be kidding me? This was in Blender? If that's the case I will cancel my subscription with them ASAP.

I wish I was..... http://prince.org/msg/8/269480
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #40 posted 09/04/08 12:07pm

midnightmover

And here's more of their work..... http://prince.org/msg/8/261099
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #41 posted 09/04/08 12:20pm

superspaceboy

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Him and Kurt Corbain are the top in my book.

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Reply #42 posted 09/04/08 12:35pm

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rolling said:

Is 2pac a musician? I though a musician was someone who played an instrument!


Thank you. I'm sick of seeing these damn rappers get a pass when it comes to being classified as musicians simply because they sell so much. Well, duh, the cheap shit has been in the main stream for so many years that a generation has grown up on it and know nothing else. Of course, they are going to buy it, they don't know any better. Since the standards have been lowered so much, hell, I feel like making a recording by simply knocking on my desk and reciting the ABCs. Maybe I can find some fool to buy that also.
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Reply #43 posted 09/04/08 12:41pm

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To me, Biggie is more overrated. 2Pac has been near deified, yes, but he carried more weight (no Big Pun intended) than Biggie. He actually said something and seemed to believe every word, and there was a sense that he might have said something more important if he was given the chance.

There was a sense of great potential lost, like Kurt Cobain, where Biggie just had a great flow, and wasn't really the same loss as Pac (tragic nonetheless as is any senseless death).
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Reply #44 posted 09/04/08 12:54pm

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purplecam said:

midnightmover said:


These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts

eek eek eek Tell me you're joking? You've got to be kidding me? This was in Blender? If that's the case I will cancel my subscription with them ASAP.

you have a subscription? hah!
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Reply #45 posted 09/04/08 1:03pm

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bboy87 said:

purplecam said:


eek eek eek Tell me you're joking? You've got to be kidding me? This was in Blender? If that's the case I will cancel my subscription with them ASAP.

you have a subscription? hah!


I have a subscription also. It's a funny magazine that doesn't pretend to be anything other than 15 minutes of amusement like for example Rolling Stone.

Anyone taking this ranking seriously clearly didn't read the part in the original post that said the list was tongue-in-cheek.
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Reply #46 posted 09/04/08 1:06pm

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Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:


These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts


Told you it was probably some college student my age making this up. lol

How old are you, Timmy? (If I can ask)
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #47 posted 09/04/08 1:11pm

Timmy84

dag said:

Timmy84 said:



Told you it was probably some college student my age making this up. lol

How old are you, Timmy? (If I can ask)


24 lol
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Reply #48 posted 09/04/08 1:14pm

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Timmy84 said:

dag said:


How old are you, Timmy? (If I can ask)


24 lol

I thought you were a teenager after reading that quote. lol But I knew you must be around my age, or older, yet you´re younger (I´m 28).
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #49 posted 09/04/08 1:15pm

Timmy84

dag said:

Timmy84 said:



24 lol

I thought you were a teenager after reading that quote. lol But I knew you must be around my age, or older, yet you´re younger (I´m 28).


I've been in college for a good minute so yeah. lol
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Reply #50 posted 09/04/08 2:33pm

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Anxiety said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Kurt Kobain should be #1. EASILY.


yeah, cuz nirvana didn't influence any kind of sea change in popular music at all, and nobody really appreciated his lyrics or songwriting. i think you're on to something. lol


I think that change was coming anyway. Rock and Roll had taken a back seat in the 80's and it was time for a revival. I find Nirvana to be nothing other than a good garage band that got noticed. I never/heard saw anything really special come out of that band. Certainly nothing to warrant him still being talked about and celebrated still to this day.

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Reply #51 posted 09/04/08 2:54pm

NDRU

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superspaceboy said:

Anxiety said:



yeah, cuz nirvana didn't influence any kind of sea change in popular music at all, and nobody really appreciated his lyrics or songwriting. i think you're on to something. lol


I think that change was coming anyway. Rock and Roll had taken a back seat in the 80's and it was time for a revival. I find Nirvana to be nothing other than a good garage band that got noticed. I never/heard saw anything really special come out of that band. Certainly nothing to warrant him still being talked about and celebrated still to this day.


that's perfectly valid (and he probably is overrated), but doesn't it say something that not only is he on t-shirts, but they still play the music?

I think if there was nothing to the music, 14 years of perspective would have worked that out.
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Reply #52 posted 09/04/08 4:06pm

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NDRU said:

superspaceboy said:



I think that change was coming anyway. Rock and Roll had taken a back seat in the 80's and it was time for a revival. I find Nirvana to be nothing other than a good garage band that got noticed. I never/heard saw anything really special come out of that band. Certainly nothing to warrant him still being talked about and celebrated still to this day.


that's perfectly valid (and he probably is overrated), but doesn't it say something that not only is he on t-shirts, but they still play the music?

I think if there was nothing to the music, 14 years of perspective would have worked that out.


Oh don't get me wrong, there were some good tunes that are now classics, and I am pretty certian that the 90's will crop back up like the 80's in nostalgia and they'll be played a lot more.

I feel that if an artist passes on without that much material under their belt they shouldn't be revered like they are. But it happens all the time...Jimi, Janis, etc. I imagine Amy might join that rank and then her music will live in a time capsule and people will worship her Beehive that will be in some museum and say how she was the best soul voice in a white woman or some bullshiz like that.

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Reply #53 posted 09/04/08 4:08pm

MikeMatronik

WTF...next Blender will write that I have good taste in music???

I don't trust listz!
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Reply #54 posted 09/04/08 4:24pm

NDRU

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superspaceboy said:

NDRU said:



that's perfectly valid (and he probably is overrated), but doesn't it say something that not only is he on t-shirts, but they still play the music?

I think if there was nothing to the music, 14 years of perspective would have worked that out.


Oh don't get me wrong, there were some good tunes that are now classics, and I am pretty certian that the 90's will crop back up like the 80's in nostalgia and they'll be played a lot more.

I feel that if an artist passes on without that much material under their belt they shouldn't be revered like they are. But it happens all the time...Jimi, Janis, etc. I imagine Amy might join that rank and then her music will live in a time capsule and people will worship her Beehive that will be in some museum and say how she was the best soul voice in a white woman or some bullshiz like that.


I understand, potential isn't the same as achievement, and Nirvana basically had 2 great albums (one is probably in my top five all time, however).

Sublime is another example of that. They actually had zero great albums (even though I love much of their music). He became legendary without ever actually fulfilling his potential.

And you're right Amy will be put in the same category, especially if she dies. I hope that doesn't happen.

I'd say Jimi actually did enough to warrant his legendary status, but he's an exception.
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Reply #55 posted 09/04/08 10:55pm

PurpleJam

midnightmover said:

Graycap23 said:

Have they heard Madonna?

These fools actually named Madonna one of the top geniuses in musical history, above both Prince and James Brown. They also named Sting the "worst lyricist of all time". nuts


I am not a fan of Sting's music at all. But putting him at #1 at being the worst lyricist in music? Come on BLENDER! I dont think that he's even close to being the worst lyricist in music.
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Reply #56 posted 09/05/08 1:23am

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bboy87 said:

That title goes to Elvis lol
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Reply #57 posted 09/05/08 4:29am

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Pink Floyd is indeed grossly overrated! So are The Beatles, AC/DC and The Eagles.
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Reply #58 posted 09/05/08 6:52am

HamsterHuey

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[grossly overrated] [The Beatles]


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Reply #59 posted 09/05/08 11:48am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Fair enough. But I don't find anything groundbreaking about a rock band with only a guitar and a drum kit. Any band in general could get back without a bass.


You forgot a couple words: "I don't find anything groundbreaking about a rock band with only a guitar and drum kit... and a crappy drummer."



lol
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