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Thread started 02/13/08 10:51am

Adisa

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40 Worst Lyricists in Rock--Blender Magazine

http://www.blender.com/gu...px?ID=2882

Well, at least they got Diane Warren in the Top 10, but I can think of a few people who belong.
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Reply #1 posted 02/13/08 11:00am

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Soulja Boy
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Reply #2 posted 02/13/08 11:00am

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WOW.
i'm utterly SHOCKED that Lenny Kravitz didn't make this list at all?????
I mean i love me some Lenny, but it certainly ain't for his lyrical skills....
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/08 11:05am

unkemptpueblo

Sorry, but the fact that Common is on this list renders it utterly meaningless.
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Reply #4 posted 02/13/08 11:11am

namepeace

Okay. Common is 36


Never trust a rapper in a sweater-vest.

Common wasn’t above dissing Ice Cube on “The Bitch in Yoo” (“I heard a ho say you her favorite rapper/So I had to slap her”), but don’t be fooled—he’s also a self-righteous hippie. The principled rhymer’s earnest neo-soul thoughts touch on abortion (“Turning this woman’s womb into a tomb”), social injustice and his own vegetarianism.
Worst lyric: “I’m your worst nightmare squared/That’s double for niggas who ain’t mathematically aware” (“Making a Name for Ourselves”)


KRS-ONE is 25

Though initially revered as one of the first MCs to wield political messages, the hip-hop pioneer’s raps devolved quickly from shrewd antigovernment observations to crackpot tirades and bizarre diatribes against the FDA and the IRS (“In this particular system everyone’s a slave/Racist is how they want us to behave” from “Who Are the Pimps?”). “Rap needed a teacher, so I became it,” he boasted—but soon found few students willing to show up to class.
Worst lyric: “See, cows live under fear and stress/Trying to think what’s gonna happen next/Fear and stress can become a part of you/In your cells and blood, this is true” (“Beef”)

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[Edited 2/13/08 11:12am]
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Reply #5 posted 02/13/08 11:13am

unkemptpueblo

namepeace said:

Okay. Common is 36


Never trust a rapper in a sweater-vest.

Common wasn’t above dissing Ice Cube on “The Bitch in Yoo” (“I heard a ho say you her favorite rapper/So I had to slap her”), but don’t be fooled—he’s also a self-righteous hippie. The principled rhymer’s earnest neo-soul thoughts touch on abortion (“Turning this woman’s womb into a tomb”), social injustice and his own vegetarianism.
Worst lyric: “I’m your worst nightmare squared/That’s double for niggas who ain’t mathematically aware” (“Making a Name for Ourselves”)


KRS-ONE is 25

Though initially revered as one of the first MCs to wield political messages, the hip-hop pioneer’s raps devolved quickly from shrewd antigovernment observations to crackpot tirades and bizarre diatribes against the FDA and the IRS (“In this particular system everyone’s a slave/Racist is how they want us to behave” from “Who Are the Pimps?”). “Rap needed a teacher, so I became it,” he boasted—but soon found few students willing to show up to class.
Worst lyric: “See, cows live under fear and stress/Trying to think what’s gonna happen next/Fear and stress can become a part of you/In your cells and blood, this is true” (“Beef”)

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[Edited 2/13/08 11:12am]


all credibility out the window.
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Reply #6 posted 02/13/08 11:22am

midnightmover

This list is a total joke. There are actually several people in there who have written some fantastic lyrics including the guy they've named the all time worst. Madonna is a far, far worse lyricist than any of them and yet she's completely absent. What a joke.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #7 posted 02/13/08 11:29am

Tuls101

midnightmover said:

This list is a total joke. There are actually several people in there who have written some fantastic lyrics including the guy they've named the all time worst. Madonna is a far, far worse lyricist than any of them and yet she's completely absent. What a joke.



That's odd in another thread it was stated Madonna didn't write her lyrics or come up with her hooks or melodies so why should she be included?
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Reply #8 posted 02/13/08 11:34am

midnightmover

Tuls101 said:

midnightmover said:

This list is a total joke. There are actually several people in there who have written some fantastic lyrics including the guy they've named the all time worst. Madonna is a far, far worse lyricist than any of them and yet she's completely absent. What a joke.



That's odd in another thread it was stated Madonna didn't write her lyrics or come up with her hooks or melodies so why should she be included?

Please show me exactly when and where this was stated. Once again you are misrepresenting people's arguments. Let me rephrase that. Once again you are flat out lying.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #9 posted 02/13/08 11:36am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

WOW.
i'm utterly SHOCKED that Lenny Kravitz didn't make this list at all?????
I mean i love me some Lenny, but it certainly ain't for his lyrical skills....


Lenny has one of my favorite horrible lyrics

"We'll live each day in peace and hope that we will someday reach the rest of the world when they are ready to be teached!!"
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Reply #10 posted 02/13/08 11:45am

Tuls101

midnightmover said:

Tuls101 said:




That's odd in another thread it was stated Madonna didn't write her lyrics or come up with her hooks or melodies so why should she be included?

Please show me exactly when and where this was stated. Once again you are misrepresenting people's arguments. Let me rephrase that. Once again you are flat out lying.


It was stated several times in that other thread that Madonna has little to do with the creation of her music. I'm not sure if it was you or someone else who said it but someone said that "co writing/production credits mean nothing to them" I would assume because a "co writer" actually didn't do much. So the implication would be that because she is often times a co writer that she doesn't have much to do with the creation of her music. Did you know 1+1=2 should I provide some complex formula as to how I came up with that answer? Common sense is a gift.
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Reply #11 posted 02/13/08 11:49am

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This list is preposterous.
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Reply #12 posted 02/13/08 11:50am

midnightmover

Tuls101 said:

midnightmover said:


Please show me exactly when and where this was stated. Once again you are misrepresenting people's arguments. Let me rephrase that. Once again you are flat out lying.


It was stated several times in that other thread that Madonna has little to do with the creation of her music. I'm not sure if it was you or someone else who said it but someone said that "co writing/production credits mean nothing to them" I would assume because a "co writer" actually didn't do much. So the implication would be that because she is often times a co writer that she doesn't have much to do with the creation of her music. Did you know 1+1=2 should I provide some complex formula as to how I came up with that answer? Common sense is a gift.

Firstly, you know darn well it wasn't me who said that. Secondly, that person was referring to Madonna's '80s songs. Her hideous lyrics mostly date from the '90s and '00s. Since this is a thread devoted to lyrics I'll gladly furnish you with some examples if you need convincing of that fact.
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“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #13 posted 02/13/08 11:51am

midnightmover

NDRU said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

WOW.
i'm utterly SHOCKED that Lenny Kravitz didn't make this list at all?????
I mean i love me some Lenny, but it certainly ain't for his lyrical skills....


Lenny has one of my favorite horrible lyrics

"We'll live each day in peace and hope that we will someday reach the rest of the world when they are ready to be teached!!"

lol lol lol lol lol
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #14 posted 02/13/08 11:57am

Tuls101

midnightmover said:

Tuls101 said:



It was stated several times in that other thread that Madonna has little to do with the creation of her music. I'm not sure if it was you or someone else who said it but someone said that "co writing/production credits mean nothing to them" I would assume because a "co writer" actually didn't do much. So the implication would be that because she is often times a co writer that she doesn't have much to do with the creation of her music. Did you know 1+1=2 should I provide some complex formula as to how I came up with that answer? Common sense is a gift.

Firstly, you know darn well it wasn't me who said that so quit playing dumb. Secondly, that person was referring to Madonna's '80s songs. Her hideous lyrics mostly date from the '90s and '00s. Since this is a thread devoted to lyrics I'll gladly furnish you with some examples if you need convincing of that fact.


Actually, I was responding to so many posts that day in that thread, I lost track of who I was responding to at times. Again, her "hideous" lyrics as your opinion states were also co written with others. So couldn't they just as easily be the work of the co writer since her "good" lyrics in the 80's were largely Pat Leonard's doing according to you? And trust me I'm quite familiar with Madonna's entire catalogue, I don't need to read the bad lyrics she wrote or the good lyrics everybody else wrote for her from her songs to make up my mind on where I stand. Thanks for the offer though!
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Reply #15 posted 02/13/08 12:13pm

Dance

I'm glad they came for Common's wack ass. FINALLY.

I'm tired of clowns like him.
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Reply #16 posted 02/13/08 12:15pm

Tuls101

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I'm glad they came for Common's wack ass. FINALLY.

I'm tired of clowns like him.



LOL...I'm being dead ass serious...What music artists DO you like??
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Reply #17 posted 02/13/08 12:19pm

Dance

Tuls101 said:

Dance said:

I'm glad they came for Common's wack ass. FINALLY.

I'm tired of clowns like him.



LOL...I'm being dead ass serious...What music artists DO you like??


Search my posts.
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Reply #18 posted 02/13/08 12:43pm

namepeace

Dance said:

I'm glad they came for Common's wack ass. FINALLY.


Yes, the True Arbiter of All Things Hip-Hop, Blender, pulled his card.

lol
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Reply #19 posted 02/13/08 12:45pm

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namepeace said:

Dance said:

I'm glad they came for Common's wack ass. FINALLY.


Yes, the True Arbiter of All Things Hip-Hop, Blender, pulled his card.

lol
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I hear Rolling Stone placed Kurt Cobain higher on the list of Greatest Rappers of all Time mad smile
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Reply #20 posted 02/13/08 12:46pm

midnightmover

namepeace said:

Dance said:

I'm glad they came for Common's wack ass. FINALLY.


Yes, the True Arbiter of All Things Hip-Hop, Blender, pulled his card.

lol
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I don't even know Common, but if he's on this list then the chances are he's pretty good. wink
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Reply #21 posted 02/13/08 12:47pm

midnightmover

NDRU said:

namepeace said:



Yes, the True Arbiter of All Things Hip-Hop, Blender, pulled his card.

lol
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I hear Rolling Stone placed Kurt Cobain higher on the list of Greatest Rappers of all Time mad smile

The way things are going, don't be surprised if that joke turns out to be a premonition.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #22 posted 02/13/08 1:09pm

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Is TTD on the list?
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #23 posted 02/13/08 1:13pm

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why is diddy on there, he doesnt write the rhymes, he just says them
he even used it in a line! lol
yea, i know...
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Reply #24 posted 02/13/08 2:28pm

Adisa

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As much as I like MJ's music he's always been a crappy lyricist IMHO.

(Another thread with MJ mentioned!!) woot!
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Reply #25 posted 02/13/08 7:21pm

coltrane3

midnightmover said:

This list is a total joke. There are actually several people in there who have written some fantastic lyrics including the guy they've named the all time worst. Madonna is a far, far worse lyricist than any of them and yet she's completely absent. What a joke.


Don't take it so seriously. It's a conversation piece meant to make you angry about the artists you don't think should be on the list, and make you laugh at the ones you agree with.

There's no subjective way to measure best or worst lyricists. Several artists that I like are on the list and I'm not the least bit pissed about it.

Do you think Sting with his millions upon million of dollars and record sales remotely gives a fuck what Blender magazine has to say?
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Reply #26 posted 02/13/08 7:33pm

2Jay

not Paul Stanley omfg
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Reply #27 posted 02/13/08 8:31pm

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coltrane3 said:

midnightmover said:

This list is a total joke. There are actually several people in there who have written some fantastic lyrics including the guy they've named the all time worst. Madonna is a far, far worse lyricist than any of them and yet she's completely absent. What a joke.


Don't take it so seriously. It's a conversation piece meant to make you angry about the artists you don't think should be on the list, and make you laugh at the ones you agree with.

There's no subjective way to measure best or worst lyricists. Several artists that I like are on the list and I'm not the least bit pissed about it.

Do you think Sting with his millions upon million of dollars and record sales remotely gives a fuck what Blender magazine has to say?
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Welllll saiid. also, to give a SLIGHT defense of this list, there's a few bands /artists on this list whom I like, even like quite a bit, yet I acknowledge how absurd or even downright worthless their lyrics: Genesis, Yes, Jethro Tull namely. Like their music, but pay little to no attention to their lyrics.
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Reply #28 posted 02/13/08 8:36pm

DarlingDiana

Blender was obviously just trying to be controversial with this list. They pic well known, well respected song writers who have written a couple of shockers and put them in the list. They just wanted to stir things up.
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Reply #29 posted 02/13/08 9:19pm

2Jay

DarlingDiana said:

Blender was obviously just trying to be controversial with this list. They pic well known, well respected song writers who have written a couple of shockers and put them in the list. They just wanted to stir things up.


Yeah. They once said We Didn't Start the Fire saw the 66th worst song of all time. I believe #1 was not some random song, it was E&I. disbelief
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