2freaky4church1 said:

they've just grown on me

TotalAlisa said:

oh gawd MJ totally fucked up that song

728huey said:

They hate us for our music.
[Edited 3/22/08 12:50pm]

AlexdeParis said:

I like a lot of their songs, but not enough to call myself a fan

I just played Taxman

Dewrede said:

i love that and the album its on

thekidsgirl said:

If you like a lot of their songs, then it sounds to me like you already are into the Beatles.

this thread made me want to go listen to the beatles

i totally haven't in a few years.

728huey said:

That's the complete breakdown right there. Excellent.

They really did go from cover songs and screaming girls to some of the greatest songwriting ever.

Just throw in the following if you want to hear the music played live:



The incredible complexity of art appreciation is that for innumerable reasons all of us can struggle at times hearing, seeing, or feeling something for what it truly is (call it subjectivity or personal preference).

Which is totally cool until we become experts in things we have no expertise (and we all do this to varying degrees).

And we can always fall back to the tried and true, "But I'm the expert of me!".

That's certainly true and it’s also a really good way of refusing to learn anything from anyone but ourselves.

Take something much less subjective like the iPod. It was for years mostly respected and admired, then came the inevitable backlash that had far more to do with fashion and image of mindless consumers than technological deficiencies.

Some parallels can certainly be drawn with The Beatles.

But raging against the masses can be just as flawed as trusting them.

I'm not saying anyone is doing that here. I'm saying that we've ALL done this -- it’s part of being human.

Dewrede said:

and the White Album!

TotalAlisa said:

Hopefully no one is paying u to think.
[Edited 3/24/08 10:42am]

I am probably one of the few people here who actually can remember The Beatles' first appearance on the Ed Sullivan show in 1964. And while I have always enjoyed their music, I wouldn't say that I actually love them. (I don't own any of their albums, in fact - though I've heard most of them.)

They certainly deserve their place in music history. I've just never been crazy about them.

If you're loving Hey Jude, then it's probably a safe bet that you like later period Beatles.

Abbey Road is a no-brainer.

I might recommend Let It Be...Naked (over the real Let It Be). Maybe it's blasphemy, but I'm a die hard lifelong fan and I prefer the remastered, reordered "naked" album. And that album is probably closest to Hey Jude in tone. Soulful rock & roll. Some huge hits & some lesser known gems like I've Got A Feeling.

The Blue album is fantastic. And past masters 2, for a slightly cheaper compilation of later hits.

don't waste your time on hits collections and singles compilations....buy the albums, any of them. if you like what you've heard so far, you can't go wrong.

the beatles have their nay-sayers, but i think it's important to keep in mind who their contemporaries were and what they were doing when they were doing it. people tend to take the beatles out of context due to their familiarity with the material...and we all know that familiarity breeds contempt.

peedub said:

I kind of agree with this, as I had compilations as a kid and of course ended up buying everything.

But then, I had them on LP, Cassette, & cd, so I bought everything multiple times anyway

peedub said:

I wouldn't say buying the hits collections are a waste of time. Some of those singles aren't on any albums, right?

sextonseven said:

Yeah the two Past Masters are almost proper albums because of that (though some of the Let it Be stuff is duplicated).

They're the only compilations (I believe) that specifically follow that format of "songs that aren't on the albums," and even the Let It Be songs are the single versions, not the album versions.
[Edited 3/24/08 12:59pm]

InsatiableCream said:

hate that damn song

peedub said:

True. They were way ahead of their time during their time.

NDRU said:

And the single versions are better (specifically "Across the Universe").

The only good thing I can say about Let It Be... Naked is that it adds my favorite Beatles song, "Don't Let Me Down." I hate, hate, hate "The Long and Winding Road" without the sappy strings. Phil Spector may (or may not) be a murderer, but he knew what he was doing with that song.

AlexdeParis said:

Yeah the singles versions are cleaner, & the end of Get Back is cooler on the single.

As for the album, adding Don't Let Me Down in favor of Dig It certainly makes sense! And while I like the little asides "I dig a pygmy!" it sounds more like a proper album without them, to these ears, at least. I like the new track order, as well.

I totally agree about The Long & Winding Road. Paul always acts like Phil Specter made the song sappy. It was sappy to begin with and the strings merely complete it. I expected my attitude towards it to change when I heard the Naked version, but it didn't. I almost always skip the song.

I really like the pristine quality of the production. The original is soaked in reverb, and doesn't sound bad, but the minimalism suits the original purpose of the album.

Now, if they could only explain why Across the Universe is still there...

HamsterHuey said:

That's not true at all. I've suffered through an entire album of theirs Sergeant Pepper and a total of at least 50 songs. I haven't liked a single one, and that's my prerogative.

Moonbeam said:

If nothing else, I absolutely believe your hatred is sincere.

damosuzuki said:

Moonbeam said:

I actually think you've been showing a fair bit of restraint lately when it comes to this topic.

damosuzuki said:

I've tried!

It is fans like you and Anxiety (and Huey, although he was baiting me on this thread- bad hamster!) that have changed my perceptions of Beatles fans, and for that, I thank you both!

I love the Beatles.


I love Ian.



I've grown to love that Ian hates the Beatles.

Moonbeam said:

I cannot believe that a person that is named after one of the most Beatle-esque prince songs in the world denounces EVERYTHING the Beatles ever did.

You just haven't heard the right tracks. It's the reputation you hate more than anything else, it closes your mind for the actual music.

I wish I was in Oz and I could play you just ten tracks. Then totally pounce you if you dislike them.

HamsterHuey said:

I'm pretty sure he's heard those lines before...

Raze said:

I love that you love that I hate the Beatles!
[Edited 3/25/08 18:21pm]