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PrintablePatrickS77 said: Well, obviously you'll need a company to throw out the Zipper...
A ride called 'The Zipper'? Hmmm....interesting...  [Edited 3/1/08 19:17pm] | |
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SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: If they're talking about Hayvenhurst, then that's old news because it was paid off sometime ago as I recall And shouldn't Jermaine help pay the bills? He and his kids and other family members lived there in the late 80s and 90s and didn't pay anything  Oh please Jermaine doesn't have any money!! When was the last time he had a hit record?? The mid-80s??  "Do What You Did to...something". | |
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Vanilli said: I disagree. I know people way beyond 30 somethings that love Disney rides, just as much as 6 year old kids do.
That's not what I said. There is a difference between a person in his or her 30s loving to go to an amusement park and a thirtysomething buying an amusement park and putting it in his or her backyard, presumably to attract young boys for sleepovers. That's nearly as big of a joke as Michael Jackson actually buying this mansion on time. | |
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LittleAmy said: Vanilli said: I disagree. I know people way beyond 30 somethings that love Disney rides, just as much as 6 year old kids do.
That's not what I said. There is a difference between a person in his or her 30s loving to go to an amusement park and a thirtysomething buying an amusement park and putting it in his or her backyard, presumably to attract young boys for sleepovers. That's nearly as big of a joke as Michael Jackson actually buying this mansion on time. I don't do this often (defend this pathetic fallen star, damn right i said it) if i had jackos money i'd probably get myself a theme park too, i'd also get my own winerie ran by half naked swim suit models... does that make me a deviant... wait... strike that... anyways psychologically speaking, that isn't how child predators act, thats actually a bad move... way too obvious Child predators put themselves in positions of power so they can black mail and extort their predators... IE like a certain record label mogul, who black mailed his adolecent client's into sleeping with him... *coughs* Chris Stokes *cough* a man buying a amusement park simply means 1 of 2 things, he's capitalist swine planning on selling well overpriced tickets for sucky rides, or a pathetic man child hoping to reclaim his own childhood Back when neverland was operational, Jacko was barely there when kids were around. you try to make him out to be a charlie manson like pied piper when in reality he's a hapless pathetic excuse for a modern willy wonka or peter pan... I mean i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, if jacko wasn't so goddamn child like and stupid, yes stupid, i said it... It aint jacko you got to worry about, guess whats one of the top professions pedophiles thrive in... Child Psychology and education watch your doctors and teachers... Jacko, why bother he's a has been anyway my  I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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And for my two cents, given how Michael Jackson's personal life has unfolded -- including the allegations dealing with children -- it's apparent he's a damn middle-aged man who doesn't pay his bills, buys outrageous objects and has an apparent fetish for having sleepovers with kids like he's a child himself.
Owning an amusement park doesn't make you a deviant -- it's everything else about Michael Jackson in addition to the amusement park that makes him a freak. Better yet, forget the two cents. | |
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LittleAmy said: And for my two cents, given how Michael Jackson's personal life has unfolded -- including the allegations dealing with children -- it's apparent he's a damn middle-aged man who doesn't pay his bills, buys outrageous objects and has an apparent fetish for having sleepovers with kids like he's a child himself.
Owning an amusement park doesn't make you a deviant -- it's everything else about Michael Jackson in addition to the amusement park that makes him a freak. Better yet, forget the two cents. So what? who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: LittleAmy said: And for my two cents, given how Michael Jackson's personal life has unfolded -- including the allegations dealing with children -- it's apparent he's a damn middle-aged man who doesn't pay his bills, buys outrageous objects and has an apparent fetish for having sleepovers with kids like he's a child himself.
Owning an amusement park doesn't make you a deviant -- it's everything else about Michael Jackson in addition to the amusement park that makes him a freak. Better yet, forget the two cents. So what? who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. I concur. 
And further to that, if I was over 30 and had millions of dollars, and the property to do so, I would build an amusement park in my back yard too.  www.maximum-jackson.com
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people have children as an excuse to go to theme parks and the circus [Edited 3/1/08 23:28pm] | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: LittleAmy said: And for my two cents, given how Michael Jackson's personal life has unfolded -- including the allegations dealing with children -- it's apparent he's a damn middle-aged man who doesn't pay his bills, buys outrageous objects and has an apparent fetish for having sleepovers with kids like he's a child himself.
Owning an amusement park doesn't make you a deviant -- it's everything else about Michael Jackson in addition to the amusement park that makes him a freak. Better yet, forget the two cents. So what? who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. No it doesn't, there are many celebs who try to live normal everyday lives, who don't go around slipping info to tabloids and such. They just enjoy what they do, and try to live as much of a normal life as they can with the consequences of being famous. You don't hear bout them as much cause they don't feed the media. MJ has always played the media, even when he was being made into the freak he was becoming, oxygen coffins anyone? That skin disease that only seems to bleach his face? That 1 nose job? When you play with the media you ARE going to get burned. He signed the deal with the devil and this is what happens. Just like what is going on to Britney. One reaps what one sows. My question through all of this is if he would just pay his bills there wouldn't be issues concerning it, but... oh wait it makes the sheep baaaa again bout him. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: EmbattledWarrior said: So what? who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. No it doesn't, there are many celebs who try to live normal everyday lives, who don't go around slipping info to tabloids and such. They just enjoy what they do, and try to live as much of a normal life as they can with the consequences of being famous. You don't hear bout them as much cause they don't feed the media. MJ has always played the media, even when he was being made into the freak he was becoming, oxygen coffins anyone? That skin disease that only seems to bleach his face? That 1 nose job? When you play with the media you ARE going to get burned. He signed the deal with the devil and this is what happens. Just like what is going on to Britney. One reaps what one sows. My question through all of this is if he would just pay his bills there wouldn't be issues concerning it, but... oh wait it makes the sheep baaaa again bout him. name a celeb who isn't a freak and i'll give you a golden toad... and about the paying bills I think the problem probably stems from 2 places... Mj's trust in his accountants and business managers and his extravagant spending... Ya gotta remember MJ is famous for mass firings of his whole entourage including many of the handlers of his assets. this is nothing new its been happening since 96 and he had money then (to say he doesn't now) so i'd question his many accounts and business associates wouldn't doubt if they've been funneling money out. MJ doesn't pay bills, cause half the time he isn't aware of them.. why cause he's stupid thats why he's the same asshole that thought his whole catalogue was worth a billion dollars come on he doesn't know whats going on when it comes to his finances as long as he can buy 10,000 dollars vases, he could careless [Edited 3/2/08 0:13am] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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lazycrockett said: EmbattledWarrior said: So what? who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. No it doesn't, there are many celebs who try to live normal everyday lives, who don't go around slipping info to tabloids and such. They just enjoy what they do, and try to live as much of a normal life as they can with the consequences of being famous. You don't hear bout them as much cause they don't feed the media. MJ has always played the media, even when he was being made into the freak he was becoming, oxygen coffins anyone? That skin disease that only seems to bleach his face? That 1 nose job? When you play with the media you ARE going to get burned. He signed the deal with the devil and this is what happens. Just like what is going on to Britney. One reaps what one sows. My question through all of this is if he would just pay his bills there wouldn't be issues concerning it, but... oh wait it makes the sheep baaaa again bout him. and lazy don't you like hate MJ? why are you even responding to this? not to say you can't just found it peculiar... I know why i'm here... boredom [Edited 3/2/08 0:18am] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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keanu reeves, sandra bollocks. sorry for the spelling, but those are two, they do the job that they need to do, make a movie, and promote it but you dont see them being photoed at mr chows or whatever hot spot.
I dont hate MJ cause I don't know him, do I think hes a molester yes. But my reply wasn't really bout mj it was more bout the notion that there are numerous celebrities who do not buy into the media feeding frenzy. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: EmbattledWarrior said: So what? who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. No it doesn't, there are many celebs who try to live normal everyday lives, who don't go around slipping info to tabloids and such. They just enjoy what they do, and try to live as much of a normal life as they can with the consequences of being famous. You don't hear bout them as much cause they don't feed the media. MJ has always played the media, even when he was being made into the freak he was becoming, oxygen coffins anyone? That skin disease that only seems to bleach his face? That 1 nose job? When you play with the media you ARE going to get burned. He signed the deal with the devil and this is what happens. Just like what is going on to Britney. One reaps what one sows. My question through all of this is if he would just pay his bills there wouldn't be issues concerning it, but... oh wait it makes the sheep baaaa again bout him. That skin disease never "bleached" his face, it stripped it of pigment, just like anyone else with the disease. Why don't you search "vitiligo" and you will find plenty of information. In any case, this isn't exactly the publicity he needs when Thriller 25 is doing so well. Sure he could have avoided it, but for whatever reason that didn't happen. I doubt he WANTS this kind of publicity. www.maximum-jackson.com
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lazycrockett said: keanu reeves, sandra bollocks. sorry for the spelling, but those are two, they do the job that they need to do, make a movie, and promote it but you dont see them being photoed at mr chows or whatever hot spot.
I dont hate MJ cause I don't know him, do I think hes a molester yes. But my reply wasn't really bout mj it was more bout the notion that there are numerous celebrities who do not buy into the media feeding frenzy. Keanu Reaves is a surfing, motorcycle crashing, fake band lead sing freak, he's just not big enough to cause much of a fuss over You got me on Bullock, Thats mostly because i have a pretty bad crush on her, but im sure shes a freak hopefully a freak in bed, i digress though hehe I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: lazycrockett said: keanu reeves, sandra bollocks. sorry for the spelling, but those are two, they do the job that they need to do, make a movie, and promote it but you dont see them being photoed at mr chows or whatever hot spot.
I dont hate MJ cause I don't know him, do I think hes a molester yes. But my reply wasn't really bout mj it was more bout the notion that there are numerous celebrities who do not buy into the media feeding frenzy. Keanu Reaves is a surfing, motorcycle crashing, fake band lead sing freak, he's just not big enough to cause much of a fuss over You got me on Bullock, Thats mostly because i have a pretty bad crush on her, but im sure shes a freak hopefully a freak in bed, i digress though hehe Please after The Matrix Reeves could have been all totally media committed, found a hottie and went and did what the media would have absorbed. He didn't, yes maybe you see photos of him on a motorcycle tooling around town but hes not drawing attention to himself. All I am saying is that when you play with the media you get burned always. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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marnifrances said: lazycrockett said: No it doesn't, there are many celebs who try to live normal everyday lives, who don't go around slipping info to tabloids and such. They just enjoy what they do, and try to live as much of a normal life as they can with the consequences of being famous. You don't hear bout them as much cause they don't feed the media. MJ has always played the media, even when he was being made into the freak he was becoming, oxygen coffins anyone? That skin disease that only seems to bleach his face? That 1 nose job? When you play with the media you ARE going to get burned. He signed the deal with the devil and this is what happens. Just like what is going on to Britney. One reaps what one sows. My question through all of this is if he would just pay his bills there wouldn't be issues concerning it, but... oh wait it makes the sheep baaaa again bout him. That skin disease never "bleached" his face, it stripped it of pigment, just like anyone else with the disease. Why don't you search "vitiligo" and you will find plenty of information. In any case, this isn't exactly the publicity he needs when Thriller 25 is doing so well. Sure he could have avoided it, but for whatever reason that didn't happen. I doubt he WANTS this kind of publicity. So hes either that peter pan otherworldy type where money doesn't matter or hes flat broke and cant pay his bills? Or just so dumb that he doesn't know whos managing his money? How many times has this shit gone down? This shit is boring and old and very damn tired. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: EmbattledWarrior said: Keanu Reaves is a surfing, motorcycle crashing, fake band lead sing freak, he's just not big enough to cause much of a fuss over You got me on Bullock, Thats mostly because i have a pretty bad crush on her, but im sure shes a freak hopefully a freak in bed, i digress though hehe Please after The Matrix Reeves could have been all totally media committed, found a hottie and went and did what the media would have absorbed. He didn't, yes maybe you see photos of him on a motorcycle tooling around town but hes not drawing attention to himself. All I am saying is that when you play with the media you get burned always. Well i get what your saying MJ is pretty much a media whore at times... makes me sick sometimes but if u wanna be that famous u gotta play the game i guess I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: lazycrockett said: Please after The Matrix Reeves could have been all totally media committed, found a hottie and went and did what the media would have absorbed. He didn't, yes maybe you see photos of him on a motorcycle tooling around town but hes not drawing attention to himself. All I am saying is that when you play with the media you get burned always. Well i get what your saying MJ is pretty much a media whore at times... makes me sick sometimes but if u wanna be that famous u gotta play the game i guess bingo! The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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lazycrockett said: marnifrances said: That skin disease never "bleached" his face, it stripped it of pigment, just like anyone else with the disease. Why don't you search "vitiligo" and you will find plenty of information. In any case, this isn't exactly the publicity he needs when Thriller 25 is doing so well. Sure he could have avoided it, but for whatever reason that didn't happen. I doubt he WANTS this kind of publicity. So hes either that peter pan otherworldy type where money doesn't matter or hes flat broke and cant pay his bills? Or just so dumb that he doesn't know whos managing his money? How many times has this shit gone down? This shit is boring and old and very damn tired. I have no idea what happened or what his attitude is- I am just saying I doubt he wants that kind of publicity.  And I agree with you, this shit IS old and boring. Especially for a fan of over 20 years.www.maximum-jackson.com
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EmbattledWarrior said: So what?
who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. Michael Jackson is not like most celebrities, who despite being in a higher income tax bracket than the average person have mostly well adjusted lifestyles. The typical celebrity isn't doing the many eccentric things (actual and alleged) that MJ has done over the years. Even among celebrities, MJ is a freak. You're trying to rationalize MJ owning an amusement park/Neverland, which is odd for a thirtysomething man (his age group when he bought it) with no children to purchase. But that alone doesn't make him a freak -- it's the combination of the alleged skin bleachings, the child molestations, the hyperbolic chambers, the lavish spending on odd items that do a much better job than Neverland. What makes him ridiculous in this situation is that MJ has owned this property for 20 years and not only does he not own it outright, he apparently is going to have the house foreclosed despite all the money he has earned over the years. [Edited 3/2/08 6:00am] | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: LittleAmy said: That's not what I said. There is a difference between a person in his or her 30s loving to go to an amusement park and a thirtysomething buying an amusement park and putting it in his or her backyard, presumably to attract young boys for sleepovers. That's nearly as big of a joke as Michael Jackson actually buying this mansion on time. I don't do this often (defend this pathetic fallen star, damn right i said it) if i had jackos money i'd probably get myself a theme park too, i'd also get my own winerie ran by half naked swim suit models... does that make me a deviant... wait... strike that... anyways psychologically speaking, that isn't how child predators act, thats actually a bad move... way too obvious Child predators put themselves in positions of power so they can black mail and extort their predators... IE like a certain record label mogul, who black mailed his adolecent client's into sleeping with him... *coughs* Chris Stokes *cough* a man buying a amusement park simply means 1 of 2 things, he's capitalist swine planning on selling well overpriced tickets for sucky rides, or a pathetic man child hoping to reclaim his own childhood Back when neverland was operational, Jacko was barely there when kids were around. you try to make him out to be a charlie manson like pied piper when in reality he's a hapless pathetic excuse for a modern willy wonka or peter pan... I mean i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, if jacko wasn't so goddamn child like and stupid, yes stupid, i said it... It aint jacko you got to worry about, guess whats one of the top professions pedophiles thrive in... Child Psychology and education watch your doctors and teachers... Jacko, why bother he's a has been anyway my Jesus, why all these psychological evaluations when somebody with, at that time, more money than anyone could ever spend, decides to put a ferris wheel, a bumper cart track, a go cart track, a sea dragon, zipper, a huge ship (don't know what it actually called) and a huge slide in his back yard?? That's all there is! It's not like he put damn Disney World, Universal Studios or Six Flags back there! It's a very little area of the ranch, right next to the cinema! That's all there is! Considering that he lives 3 hours outside a major town and that he couldn't go to any of these things, without being hounded by fans and paps, it's really not that extraordinary! Like I said before... somebody buys 10 Ferraris another buys some rides... there is not much to it, really! Other than that Neverland is (or was) a beautiful place! And for the rest of the argument... yeah, what bboy87 says: | |
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LittleAmy said: EmbattledWarrior said: So what?
who isn't a freak and a celeb? comes with the territory the question arises when you still try to level a person with allegations that have been answered in court. See im not defending that he isn't a freak, he most certainly is. the worst freak of them all, but he's a freak because we created him, yet another victim of the public, more accurately, the mans a clown... and we laugh, wince and cry from his antics but hey we're still watching ... the question is who's the bigger moron the clown doing moronic stuff, or the people criticizing and overanalyzing what the stupid clown does. Michael Jackson is not like most celebrities, who despite being in a higher income tax bracket than the average person have mostly well adjusted lifestyles. The typical celebrity isn't doing the many eccentric things (actual and alleged) that MJ has done over the years. Even among celebrities, MJ is a freak. You're trying to rationalize MJ owning an amusement park/Neverland, which is odd for a thirtysomething man (his age group when he bought it) with no children to purchase. But that alone doesn't make him a freak -- it's the combination of the alleged skin bleachings, the child molestations, the hyperbolic chambers, the lavish spending on odd items that do a much better job than Neverland. What makes him ridiculous in this situation is that MJ has owned this property for 20 years and not only does he not own it outright, he apparently is going to have the house foreclosed despite all the money he has earned over the years. [Edited 3/2/08 6:00am] This is the part I don't understand. How comes he has a mortgage to pay? Surely he should own the whole thing. I can only assume he took out a loan somewhere and used Neverland as insurance on the loan. He's been living that way for years now, but even with his tremendous assets, you can only get away with that for so long before the chickens come home to roost. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: This is the part I don't understand. How comes he has a mortgage to pay? Surely he should own the whole thing. I can only assume he took out a loan somewhere and used Neverland as insurance on the loan. He's been living that way for years now, but even with his tremendous assets, you can only get away with that for so long before the chickens come home to roost.
Yes! That's exactly what he did! Of course he owns the place! And if he finally would go back to work that would be a reasonable way to live (it would be nothing more than a cash advance)... if he would have released an album and done some concerts in the last couple of years he could have paid back everything! I'm sure, if there wouldn't have been a trial that would be the case, he was full of plans back in '03! [Edited 3/2/08 7:43am] | |
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PatrickS77 said: midnightmover said: This is the part I don't understand. How comes he has a mortgage to pay? Surely he should own the whole thing. I can only assume he took out a loan somewhere and used Neverland as insurance on the loan. He's been living that way for years now, but even with his tremendous assets, you can only get away with that for so long before the chickens come home to roost.
Yes! That's exactly what he did! Of course he owns the place! And if he finally would go back to work that would be a reasonable way to live (it would be nothing more than a cash advance)... if he would have released an album and done some concerts in the last couple of years he could have paid back everything! I'm sure, if there wouldn't have been a trial that would be the case, he was full of plans back in '03! [Edited 3/2/08 7:43am] I don't think he even needs an album. The money he'd make from that would be nowhere near enough. It's touring where he could really make a killing. He doesn't need to do an album first. There are millions who would pay to see him right now. Let's face it, he's a nostalgia act now, just like The Rolling Stones, Prince, and George Michael, all of whom are earning a fortune touring. Hell, Barbara Streisand is raking in millions and she hasn't had a hit in 25 years. Financially speaking, an album is irrelevant. Even younger, hotter artists than Michael don't make so much money from albums nowadays. Michael needs to get a band together and hit the road, but he won't because he knows he can't cut it anymore. The way things are going though, it's hard to see what other options he has. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Yeah, I also don't think he needs an album... I'm just saying, if the trial wouldn't have happened, there probably would have been a new album by now and probably some concerts!
If he would be smart, he would cash in on Thriller 25 and do a Thriller live show... play the complete album plus a couple of the greatest hits! He wouldn't even need new choreography, as it would be a total nostalgia show (which at this point still would be the first chance for many to see him live, so it still would kinda be new to some) which would also boost Thriller sales! And then with a new album down the line he would still have the option to put on a completely new show then! The question though is, does he want to be seen as a nostalgia act (for the time being)... but then again, he agreed to Thriller 25... so he should go the full way! [Edited 3/2/08 8:29am] | |
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PatrickS77 said: Yes! That's exactly what he did! Of course he owns the place! And if he finally would go back to work that would be a reasonable way to live (it would be nothing more than a cash advance)... if he would have released an album and done some concerts in the last couple of years he could have paid back everything! I'm sure, if there wouldn't have been a trial that would be the case, he was full of plans back in '03!
Again, rationalizing and apologizing. Why in the world would Michael Jackson need to leverage an asset like this to the tune of a $24 million debt? We're not talking about someone who should have cashflow problems. Of all the artists, MJ should be among the last who has problems with money. And if MJ has a loan out on Neverland, NO he DOESN'T own the place. The company that financed the debt owns it. When you spend money the way it's been alleged about MJ over the years, it's going to come back to you. [Edited 3/2/08 21:46pm] | |
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LittleAmy said: PatrickS77 said: Yes! That's exactly what he did! Of course he owns the place! And if he finally would go back to work that would be a reasonable way to live (it would be nothing more than a cash advance)... if he would have released an album and done some concerts in the last couple of years he could have paid back everything! I'm sure, if there wouldn't have been a trial that would be the case, he was full of plans back in '03!
Again, rationalizing and apologizing. Why in the world would Michael Jackson need to leverage an asset like this to the tune of a $24 million debt? We're not talking about someone who should have cashflow problems. Of all the artists, MJ should be among the last who has problems with money. And if MJ has a loan about Neverland, NO he DOESN'T own the place. The company that financed the debt owns it. When you spend money the way it's been alleged about MJ over the years, it's going to come back to you. I was actually gonna point that out myself, but I've had too many arguments with this guy in the past, so I let it slide, but you're right. Mike USED TO own the place. Now he's lost it, thanks to his own lunacy.[Edited 3/2/08 9:04am] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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