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Thread started 02/14/08 4:38pm

thesexofit

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Glam rock appreciation

I dont think this "genre" or "sub genre" really caught on outside the UK, but I love bits of it. Heres some of my fav "glam" related songs.


Bowie "Starman"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...a4aYzOoQsA


Mud "tiger feet" (this song is the shit. Pretty sure its chinn/chapman production- which may interest a few as chapman went on to work with Blondie)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...7tpz3NAr6k

Gary glitter "do you wanna touch me"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

Slade "cum on feel the noize"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Lsw668PVyY

Sweet "blockbuster"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...oVw-8512zA

And even thouse they are US, this song fits in nicely aswell. Were they inspired by British glam?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Uo3qp7Y0Jg

David Essex "rock on" (clip is US, was this song big in America? I guess it could be considered glam?)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Xm41IG5Uq8

T-rex "ride a white swan"

http://www.youtube.com/wa...9rFoPyqFoA

I thought the whole era in the UK was alot more interesting then what USA were doing rock wise at the time. I mean, Mud "tiger feet" VS slow shit like Crosby stills and nash, America etc..., I know what I would go for. Superficial as hell, but them some good party records.
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Reply #1 posted 02/14/08 4:51pm

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i think glam kind of subliminally caught on as a fashion trend in the states when glam rock was a big music trend in the UK...there was glam-inspired music in the states that was popular at the time, but the genre wasn't really a sensation. i think in the US, people often confuse the hair metal of the 80s with the UK glam invasion of the early 70s. kinda gross.
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Reply #2 posted 02/14/08 5:13pm

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Anxiety said:

i think glam kind of subliminally caught on as a fashion trend in the states when glam rock was a big music trend in the UK...there was glam-inspired music in the states that was popular at the time, but the genre wasn't really a sensation. i think in the US, people often confuse the hair metal of the 80s with the UK glam invasion of the early 70s. kinda gross.



Ha, I never thought of Hair metal being inspired by UK's Glam rock, but, at least image wise, there may be something there. Musically, nothing alike LOL

I remember someone equating Oasis to Slade. In some respects I can see that (terrace music-i.e music to blast off council estates LOL), and the anthemic quality of both those acts, but I cant really see it.

Not sure what really inspired some of that stuff. Its sorta back to basic "lets just make good party music", against the then popular prog rock movement, which seemed to of been a bigger force in America then glam rock was. I love some prog, but a shame bands like Mud, slade and T-rex never caught on stateside. Slade may be a bit too british mind you.
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Reply #3 posted 02/14/08 6:43pm

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I like a lot of glam.

Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane, Transformer, Berlin, Roxy Music and For Your Pleasure are all among my top 100 albums!

I wish artists today had even one tenth of the charisma of the best glam rockers.
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Reply #4 posted 02/14/08 6:44pm

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Was Queen considered to be 'glam rock?
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/08 6:54pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

Was Queen considered to be 'glam rock?



Not with the usual stuff that I posted above. Probably too heavy at that time, but the image was there.

I assosiate glam rock with the early 70's and topt performances, and it certainly seemed dead by the time disco came around. But at least it inspired some acts later on down the line.
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/08 6:54pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

Was Queen considered to be 'glam rock?


Caricatures of glam, I suppose.
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Reply #7 posted 02/14/08 7:07pm

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Was Hall and Oates glam rock?

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Reply #8 posted 02/14/08 7:09pm

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Moonbeam said:

lonelygurl8305 said:

Was Queen considered to be 'glam rock?


Caricatures of glam, I suppose.




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Reply #9 posted 02/14/08 7:15pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

Moonbeam said:



Caricatures of glam, I suppose.






?

To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.
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Reply #10 posted 02/14/08 7:24pm

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Moonbeam said:

lonelygurl8305 said:







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To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.



Queens early stuff is more led zeppelin territory (or sabbath really) then pop like Bowie. Still pomp but its heavy. Edgy no, but musically they were heavy metal. Shit like "keep yourself alive" "seven seas of rhye" etc..., is miles away from "your my best friend" "killer queen" etc.., which is where alot of people think they started.

Their first couple of albums would be considered heavy rock/heavy metal I imagine. Very different to their mid 70's stuff, and vastly different to their 80's material.
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Reply #11 posted 02/14/08 7:26pm

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Moonbeam said:

lonelygurl8305 said:







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To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.


i see them as somewhere between prog and pop. i see the glam origins, but it seemed more like a diving board than something they identified themselves as.
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Reply #12 posted 02/14/08 7:28pm

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thesexofit said:

Moonbeam said:



?

To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.



Queens early stuff is more led zeppelin territory (or sabbath really) then pop like Bowie. Still pomp but its heavy. Edgy no, but musically they were heavy metal. Shit like "keep yourself alive" "seven seas of rhye" etc..., is miles away from "your my best friend" "killer queen" etc.., which is where alot of people think they started.

Their first couple of albums would be considered heavy rock/heavy metal I imagine. Very different to their mid 70's stuff, and vastly different to their 80's material.


Yeah, I'm aware that they started off with material much different to what they became known for. I was referring to the period in which they're given credit for being a credible glam act.
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Reply #13 posted 02/14/08 7:29pm

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Moonbeam said:

lonelygurl8305 said:







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To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.



Progessive rock?
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Anxiety said:

Moonbeam said:



?

To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.


i see them as somewhere between prog and pop. i see the glam origins, but it seemed more like a diving board than something they identified themselves as.



Yes, I forgot to mention I hear some prog in their first 2, often passed over albums (because they are alot heavier as their famous stuff, as I mentioned).

Queen were truly unique in many ways. The fact they changed their sound and yet still sounded like Queen and not following trends is one only a few can do (Bowie and Prince being other examples)

After Ziggy Stardust, even Bowie saw the writing on the wall for glam rock. Any Bowie fans agree? He never went back to that Ziggy, slighty theatrical, whimsical stuff did he?
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Reply #15 posted 02/14/08 7:32pm

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thesexofit said:

Anxiety said:



i see them as somewhere between prog and pop. i see the glam origins, but it seemed more like a diving board than something they identified themselves as.



Yes, I forgot to mention I hear some prog in their first 2, often passed over albums (because they are alot heavier as their famous stuff, as I mentioned).

Queen were truly unique in many ways. The fact they changed their sound and yet still sounded like Queen and not following trends is one only a few can do (Bowie and Prince being other examples)

After Ziggy Stardust, even Bowie saw the writing on the wall for glam rock. Any Bowie fans agree? He never went back to that Ziggy, slighty theatrical, whimsical stuff did he?


well, i think he remained theatrical for a good long time - the diamond dogs and thin white duke tour were very theatrical. but yeah, it was different. it wasn't glam. it was more like really dark, cancerous soul music.
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Anxiety said:

Moonbeam said:



?

To me, Queen is glam-lite. None of their material seemed as otherworldly or nearly as dangerous as the stuff Bowie, Roxy Music, and Lou Reed were doing. Queen seemed a lot more pop. They're a talented bunch of guys, but I think they are too often given credit for glam (as are Kiss), and should be viewed as more of a pop/rock band who adopted some ideas from glam and worked them into their oeuvre.


i see them as somewhere between prog and pop. i see the glam origins, but it seemed more like a diving board than something they identified themselves as.


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Reply #17 posted 02/14/08 7:35pm

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Moonbeam said:

thesexofit said:




Queens early stuff is more led zeppelin territory (or sabbath really) then pop like Bowie. Still pomp but its heavy. Edgy no, but musically they were heavy metal. Shit like "keep yourself alive" "seven seas of rhye" etc..., is miles away from "your my best friend" "killer queen" etc.., which is where alot of people think they started.

Their first couple of albums would be considered heavy rock/heavy metal I imagine. Very different to their mid 70's stuff, and vastly different to their 80's material.


Yeah, I'm aware that they started off with material much different to what they became known for. I was referring to the period in which they're given credit for being a credible glam act.


Maybe USA considers Queen glam, but in the UK, I dont think anyone saw them as part of that scene. Certainly not as commercial of that genre as Mud, slade, t-rex, etc.. which is where glam really started (and ended, a mere half a decade or less later). I guess I can see why "Killer queen" is comparible to say, t-rex, so I see your point. But Queen came slightly later though I think. By the time "killer Queen" came out, I think the real poppy glam had already been gone (or going).
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Reply #18 posted 02/14/08 7:39pm

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Anxiety said:

thesexofit said:




Yes, I forgot to mention I hear some prog in their first 2, often passed over albums (because they are alot heavier as their famous stuff, as I mentioned).

Queen were truly unique in many ways. The fact they changed their sound and yet still sounded like Queen and not following trends is one only a few can do (Bowie and Prince being other examples)

After Ziggy Stardust, even Bowie saw the writing on the wall for glam rock. Any Bowie fans agree? He never went back to that Ziggy, slighty theatrical, whimsical stuff did he?


well, i think he remained theatrical for a good long time - the diamond dogs and thin white duke tour were very theatrical. but yeah, it was different. it wasn't glam. it was more like really dark, cancerous soul music.


Cool. I saw the last ziggy stardust concert (or whatever its called). Awesome stuff.

Forgot to mention "Jean Geanie". Obvious I know, but a good example of glam nonetheless.

Bowie and Marc Bolen woulda had beautiful children LOL>
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thesexofit said:

Moonbeam said:



Yeah, I'm aware that they started off with material much different to what they became known for. I was referring to the period in which they're given credit for being a credible glam act.


Maybe USA considers Queen glam, but in the UK, I dont think anyone saw them as part of that scene. Certainly not as commercial of that genre as Mud, slade, t-rex, etc.. which is where glam really started (and ended, a mere half a decade or less later). I guess I can see why "Killer queen" is comparible to say, t-rex, so I see your point. But Queen came slightly later though I think. By the time "killer Queen" came out, I think the real poppy glam had already been gone (or going).


I don't think they ever really were full-out glam! I was merely replying to lonelygurl.
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Reply #20 posted 02/14/08 11:33pm

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Moonbeam said:

thesexofit said:



Maybe USA considers Queen glam, but in the UK, I dont think anyone saw them as part of that scene. Certainly not as commercial of that genre as Mud, slade, t-rex, etc.. which is where glam really started (and ended, a mere half a decade or less later). I guess I can see why "Killer queen" is comparible to say, t-rex, so I see your point. But Queen came slightly later though I think. By the time "killer Queen" came out, I think the real poppy glam had already been gone (or going).


I don't think they ever really were full-out glam! I was merely replying to lonelygurl.



Oh, Ok then lol


Nobody even watched the other clips? Come on, Iam pretty sure nobody who has posted so far has heard of the sweet or slade? Try 'em, they are fun.
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Reply #21 posted 02/15/08 2:09am

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No Stryper??
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Reply #22 posted 02/15/08 3:23am

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Then original glam-rock was and english wave, during the early 70's. Some call it the second british invasion, but I don't agree because 90% of the original glam bands had very limited success outside the UK and some parts of Europe; the american wave of the 80's was gross and forgettable mad lol

Nevertheless, the original english wave had A LOT of one hit wonders; T.Rex, Queen (73-76), Bowie (70-74), and Roxy Music (72-74) were the best acts by far...
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Reply #23 posted 02/15/08 4:26am

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MARC BOLAN RULES !!!!!
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Reply #24 posted 02/15/08 7:54am

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prettymansson said:

MARC BOLAN RULES !!!!!

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Reply #25 posted 02/15/08 8:28am

baroque

hell yah, i love glam rock

i love the following acts

bowie
t.rex
roxy music
jobriath
alice cooper(not alot really)
brian eno(glam days)
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Reply #27 posted 02/15/08 2:51pm

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Co sign with Ms Legs..The Dolls were the shit.
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Reply #28 posted 02/15/08 3:22pm

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Co sign with Ms Legs..The Dolls were the shit.



fuck yah.
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Reply #29 posted 02/15/08 9:53pm

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I dig it highly!
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