Ottensen said:

I am thinking, that, because of the time difference in london, and because it was said on the show that she had to stay up and had to wait til like 4 am to perform at her time slot and getting her awards, thus sincing up with american clock time. I guess to keep the timing of the show. she probably had to stay up and was drained and still had to perform. I was glad for her and she looked really shocked.
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Ottensen said:

ohhh is that what happened? I saw the camera get a close up on their faces when, and I thought that maybe one of them messed up on a move, where it looked like they bumped into each other. maann no one could have pulled off helping a 68 year old woman still make a performance look good. yall are harsh one here! no one else would have been bold enough. I just wish she would wear longer clothing.

DANGEROUSx said:

That's what I said!!!!!

Scorpion said:

This coming from somebody who was down & out with drugs like Amy, you'd think she would show a less judgemental light

Not even a fan of Amy, but I think what she do with her personal life is her own headache to deal with,,,not others.
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JustErin said:

And it certainly wouldn't be the first time the music industry has recognized the legitimacy of an artists' talent regardless of what has transpired in their personal life. Jeezus, then we might not have seen artists like Miles Davis win awards, or greats like Billie Holiday, Judy Garland, Chet Baker or Sheila Jordan be able to work.

I just find it ironic that she would be so judgemental about the young woman's situation, considering she was a heroin addict herself when she was a young singer on the verge of stardom...and most people who used to read "Jet" Magazine can recall very clearly when she was forcibly sent to rehab for cocaine addiction and legally declared incompetent by her mother, so she could get her act together and continue live and do her art...something about the tone of condescension that strikes me as odd. Particularly since GRAMMY voting is a closed affair done only amongst members of NARAS who are all music profesionals.

For me it stands to reason that their decisions are based on technical criteria that appeals to them, and not someone's personal life. If the latter were the case,then we probably wouldn't see pedophiles with urine fetishes like R. Kelly nominated for a grammy every time he burps on recording...but alas, I digress

Ottensen said:

I totally agree with you with this.

Natalie’s own transgressions are exactly why I find the comment so bizarre. I’d hate to think she’s hating. Unless she just doesn’t feel she deserves the accolades, period.

Frederick96 said:

I guess you guys didn't figure out yet that The Time only purpose there last night was to add some funk to Rhianna's 2 songs and they let them do a little bit of Jungle Love

Frederick96 said:

And he seemed seriously drunk off his ass.

Come on, Kanye, I feel for you bu why shouldn't they cut you off? Say thanks, and talk to your psych if you need to vent. Other performers are going through stuff, too, and they just say thanks.

Really lame Grammys. I wasn't excited about anything except maybe the Time, who were merely decent. Was that really the original lineup? That wasn't Jesse was it?

Actually I was kind of excited about Amy, too. I thought she was good, considering, but she seems like a real nutjob, stoned or not. She sings fine, but when she talks...

Tina sounded great, though her face was looking a bit odd when she sang. I cannot believe how she's kept her power, even after retiring.
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banks said:

O-ee-O-ee-O

Ottensen said:

So you'll sign my petition?

2the9s said:

Please

NDRU said:

Oh you thought so too? Good, I thought that was just me! Something, apart from her get up, was kinda off! I wasn't really completely satisfied! But it was still great to see her again!

2the9s said:

I hope you don't truly believe that.

It pains me to think that Tina had something done. Why? I just saw her on that PBS special, African American lives and she didn’t look like that. She didn’t need to do anything.

PatrickS77 said:

Well she's close to 70, so I'm amazed by her, but something about her posture or expression looked weird. But that old woman had so much more character & style in her voice than the young (and admittedly gorgoeus ) Beyonce.

JackieBlue said:

I'm thinking it was just tons of makeup and the strain of belting out those tunes.

was Jimmy Jam really the Chairman of the Academy this year? Cause if so that would eexplain The Time's participation over anything.

sosgemini said:

Yep. Jimmy is really on the Academy. This Grammy Awards ceremony seemed really influenced by Jimmy (performances and special award winners). Come on, Prince winning, Gerald Levert winning his first Grammy, Clarence Avant, Aretha Franklin, Chaka Khan (winning 2 for an album he produced and co-wrote), The Clark Sisters (whom I believe they worked with).

Here is the list of board members from the grammy site:
Board Of Trustees

Jimmy Jam, Chairman of the Board
Neil Tesser, Vice Chairman
Richard Perna, Secretary/Treasurer
Terry Lickona, Chairman Emeritus
Christine Albert
Larry Batiste
Chris Bell
Jimmy Bralower
Helen Bruner
Ray Chew
Ted Cohen
Paul Corbin
Maureen Crowe
Jimmy Davis
Bob Ezrin
Cathy Fink
Trevor Fletcher
Fletcher Foster
Doug Frank
Michael Freeman
Phil Galdston
Doug Howard
Leslie Ann Jones
Paul Katz
Donald Lawrence
Glenn Lorbecki
Jonathon McHugh
David Meinert
Rickey Minor
Dee Dee Murray
Big Jon Platt
Nick Phillips
John Poppo
Karen Sherry
Cynthia Simien
John Simson
Jan Smith
Demetrus Stewart
Jose Tillan
Gerald Veasley
Bobby Z
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Harlepolis said:

I think both sides of the issue are right. Why reward someone for being a fuck up? Then again, personal life and talent should be separate

LiquidGold said:

If thats the case, then it was a big mistake to reward 1/2 of the people last night.

NDRU said:

exactly what I was thinking--she has never had an aging look problem in my opinion. As I said in my earlier post it looks like she has had something done to her cheeks. no disrespect to african american women but I really think that they should think before doing surgery because aging is slow for them. I yain't sayin tina has had anything done but it sure " looks like it." If I was a singer and had the chance to perform with tina I may would have cross the picket line too. I can't see tina doing much moving around at her age either so yeah I would make up for it for her . plus tina had to perform at a special event an hour after leaving the awards.

i wonder if tina was in the house when tribute was paid to ike.

LiquidGold said:

The award was given for her songwriting and musical performance on the recording - not for her personality, personal life and choices or looks. The reward is for her efforts in her music. If she were sober or high - she still would have won.

Now, if Natalie doesn't think Any is talented - well, that's her opinion I suppose.
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NDRU said:

She got herself some new boobs, me thinks.

I'm proud Chaka got her well-deserved due, grabbing two Grammys for Best R&B Album: "Funk This" (favorite album of last year) and Best R&B Vocal Performance By A Group Or Duo: Disrespectful. Great job, Chaka!
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silverchild said:

Chaka and Gerald Levert were both deserving!

silverchild said:

I was so happy when she won that I played Funk This all night!!!!

daPrettyman said:

Gerald definitely deserved it for In My Songs! His vocal performance alone on that joint can make anyone cry.

I wasn't on the computer while watching this but you guys made me cry just now cos I laughed so much at your comments - some are spot on and some are wtf but mostly they're fun as hell - VoicesCarry Rhonda DevotedPuppy