shorttrini said:

I didn't even eat breakfast yesterday because I couldn't get this image out of my head. That close-up shot fucked me up.

RipHer2Shreds said:

paisleypark4 said:

What charts? It has peaked at #21 on the Hot 100.

Disgusting. She should have known better than to wear something like that during that time of the month, but still I don't think those pics should have ever been published in the first place. You just don't publish photo's like that of someone no matter who they are, that's just wrong. They've gone too far this time.

Whether this is Britney's fault or not, these pics should never be published. This is so incredibly inappropriate, this is the bottom of the barrel. It's like no integrity, no sense of right or wrong anything goes photography. The paparrizi are a bunch of pigs.

So period blood is the big thing now? This is what's hot in the streets?!
Fuck outta here with this bullshit

bboy87 said:

"This species has amused itself to death." - Roger Waters

Serious said:

My english is just fine thanks!

toots said:

i am a 22 year old lady....

it seems like britney to not being caring about herself or kids... so how could you expect her to really be paying attention like that.... You aren't going throught what she is neither am I so you can't compare your situation to hers... you life might not be as hectic as hers...

There is NO need to gang up and attack me... I don't know if your just an extremely rude person... or have no friends and take your anger out on people..

I don't even know you... or noticed you on this forum... why all the hostility towards me... what did i do???? Even if you don't agree with me.. thats fine.. but respect my opinions the way i respect yours.. and NOT insult me because i have yet to insult you....

lastly....

though all have I still have compassion for this woman britney spears.. and i wish people would stop speaking negative things over her life.. and stop speaking curses over her... its NOT right...
[Edited 1/19/08 14:44pm]
[Edited 1/19/08 14:54pm]

TotalAlisa said:

Hey.. don't worry about. You know YOUR heart is in the right place. That's all that matters.

Isel said:

thanks...

TotalAlisa said:

Not a problem.

For what it's worth, I agree with you.

This is the deal.. The saga of Britney Spears has been going-on now for what--over a year?????

I'm telling ya'll if SOMEBODY would force the girl's hand... Well.. then we shall see if she's really just "white trash" publicity whore or a woman with some serious issues. Whatever the case being "stupid" has nothing to do with it. She's NOT stupid either way or she wouldn't have made it as far as she has.

But it's just a damn shame that these people continue profiting off the likes of Anna Nicole Smith and Britney.. just fanning the flames of self-destruction for the story that keeps on giving. And who is reaping the benefits? In particular, all these tabloid-type of "publications" (among others in it for exposure) are getting richer and richer with the demise of these people. It's sick...

Isel said:

Nope, he just visited her.

Once Dr. Phil showed up Britney checked herself out of the hospital then hooked up with a paparazzo.

Isel said:

They don't. See the first picture? You can still see it and they're a few feet away. The close up is just a zoom in of the first picture.

Isel said:

Exactly, she goes out every damn day to shop or go to a public toilet dressed like a damn hooker.

Isel said:

People have tried to help her and she won't listen. You can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

I see she's frothing at the mouth and roaming the streets again - time to call back the dogcatchers and haul her in for another stay at the kennel.

spacedolphin said:

Cinnamon234 said:

agreed.

I dont understand all these people saying women KNOW when they will get there period. Unless you keep track on a calender and Britney obviously doesnt seem like shes in a state of mind where she would be doing something like that. And even if you were to keep track it doesnt always come exactly, not all womens cycles are perfect like that. She probably doesnt even keep track of what day or month it is. I always have to guess around about what day or if i forget hopefully catch it in its really early stages. I'm completely confused with all these women acting as though it's not possible for something like this to happen by accident. Granted I wouldnt be wearing that outfit out even if it wasnt that time of the month but im not britney.

Of course she may very well have known all along she had them and just didnt care all im saying is i understand what totalalisa is saying and it is possible especially for someone whos totally out of it like britney.
[Edited 1/20/08 3:38am]

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I don't KNOW the girl, so this could all be a big publicity stunt on HER part. She just might be an exhibitionist. She might just be the type of person who THOUGHT she wanted kids, but discovered raising them was much difficult than having them, so she let em go. She and some of her buddies just might think this is all a big joke and any of the public having genuine concern for her situation fell for it--big time. So what? I would rather err on the side of caution when I see a person in trouble because at least I know I'm trying to help. I'm not going to just walk-away, suggesting it ain't all that serious. So for those of us who are concerned about her well-being every time these threads come-up, it's not because we haven't considered other possibilites as well.

But what if this isn't Britney just wanting some attention? If she has some serious mental issues, she is incapable of listening to advice or helping herself. As previously mentioned, there is a way for responsible parties to step-in and save her from herself: petitioning for guardianship. That way, Britney would be FORCED to have a mental evaluation in order to stay-out of an institution. It's a drastic measure, but if there is genuine concern for her well-being, it's an option. I'm sure nobody wants to be the one to initiate such a thing. (Apparently, some in her family would rather rely upon Dr. Phil.) But if Britney is bi-polar..well that's a pretty serious condition which could lead to her death. It MIGHT BE worth a shot just to find-out without her cooperation since she's is unwilling to cooperate on her own.

If Britney were your daughter or sister, wouldn't you want to at least try to save her from herself rather than just giving up because she won't listen? The court would probably rule against a guardianship because to be honest, those are very difficult to receive over an adult. For a guardianship to awarded, the situation has to be pretty dire.

However, during the process, a psychiatrist would be brought-in to evaluate her, determining the extent of her "problem." That's all I'm getting at. And if she is found to have true mental disorder, I'm not so sure if the paps would be as willing to chase around a sick person due to the backlash they'd receive. Maybe they would anyway, but right now her mental state is all speculative,so there is always this idea Britney is just behaving like a spoiled celebrity, a drunk, or drug addict who is COMPLETELY responsible for her situation, rather than someone who is mentally ill. I'm just sayin... if she IS certifiably mentally ill, then she needs help, and I think more of the generally public would be repulsed by these people exploiting her just because she's a celebrity.

Isel said:

I agree. For some people part of having a mental illness is not recognizing that one needs help. Just because Spears refuses to get help does not mean that she should be held in contempt.

TotalAlisa said:

"i am a 22 year old lady....

it seems like britney to not being caring about herself or kids... so how could you expect her to really be paying attention like that.... You aren't going throught what she is neither am I so you can't compare your situation to hers... you life might not be as hectic as hers."

How can you say WHAT I HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN THROUGH?? You cant! Its called being a mom and putting your kids first(which therefore I AM a mom myself and 34 years old. I KNOW EXACTLY what its called its "Post pardom depression" it happens when or shortly after having children. My life is just as hectic as hers from being a single parent but NEVER would I put my kid second. THEY ALWAYS come first.SHE missed the court dates to appear, or NEVER showed, then she refused to give BACK her kids to K-Fed(which is against the law even in my own state) who has cutsody of the kids. Yeah I HAVE been through what she has:

Having children: I been there!
Divorce: Done that!
Court proceedings with court orders(for joint custody):Done it!
Having a hectic busy schedule for a single mom:Doing it NOW!
Was accused of being insane by ex hubby (which was proven false in court): Done it!
Going out in public when on her cycle: YEP done it too!
Post Pardom Depression: Been there too!

"There is NO need to gang up and attack me... I don't know if your just an extremely rude person... or have no friends and take your anger out on people.."

I wasnt the ONLY one but yet Im the one being attacked by you in your post.Nor was I being rude either. I wasnt the ONLY one that said some things so you need to re-read a few more posts. I have friends thanks and wasnt taking my anger out on you or on anyone either, I was also in the medical field and thought you might need a few facts to be thrown you way since you heard about these so called "horror stories"( and so were other people/posters). EXCUSE ME for even putting in any advice what so ever.

"I don't even know you... or noticed you on this forum... why all the hostility towards me... what did i do???? Even if you don't agree with me.. thats fine.. but respect my opinions the way i respect yours.. and NOT insult me because i have yet to insult you..

I have posted on many forums and threads. It is a free board. Um.. please read a few posts like I said before others have commented saying pretty much the same thing(almost along the same lines) and yet they DONT get the 3rd degree for it from you? I must be missing something here. Where did I INSULT you at please???? I said "either your a man or you have not started your cycle". HOW is that insulting you? It isnt(you dont have your profile fully filled out so therefor I cant tell what age or anything that you are or are not).Im confused as to WHY and WHERE your getting your so called "horror stories" at? Which some are very misleading. I respect you opinion but jeez getting a 3rd degree when others have said the same thing and yet I am the one being rude. "I have yet to insult you"(from your post) Im looking forward to your insults being thrown, thanks for the warning! Ill be watching.

Now if you get upset over medical fact I just posted to you and cant handle them maybe you should turn off your computer. Or better yet try google for the medical facts that you need instead of listening to some wives tales that you have been hearing. Sorry Ill know better to voice my medical knowledge on a site next time.

"though all have I still have compassion for this woman britney spears.. and i wish people would stop speaking negative things over her life.. and stop speaking curses over her... its NOT right..."

She is doing this all herself and doing the "attention grabbing" thing to get attention, I am not falling for it. SHE lost her kids cause of her OWN mistakes. Its time for her to face her own music which isnt pretty. But guess what, its her bed now she has to lay in it.
[Edited 1/20/08 7:07am]

Rodya24 said:

Question: What IF it was court ordered?(which we dont know or that part was not released) THEN she would of been held in contempt. I think I remember hearing a few things that was part of her seeing her kids.
[Edited 1/20/08 6:14am]

toots said:

IN A POTENTIALLY SERIOUS SITUATION -



File a Petition at a States Attorney’s Office

To File a Petition, contact your local States Attorney’s office (in Cook County call 312-603-8600). Anyone over the age of eighteen can complete a petition asserting another person needs mental health services. This can be a family member, a friend, a neighbor or anyone else.
The petition should state that the person is mentally ill and because of that mental illness is:

(a) reasonably expected to inflict serious physical harm on her/himself in the near future, or;

(b) exhibiting threatening behavior that places another individual in reasonable expectation of being harmed in the near future, or;

(c) unable to provide for her/his basic physical needs so as to guard her/himself from serious harm, or a person who cannot guard himself from serious harm “without the assistance of family or outside help” (latter rev. 8/03), or;

(d) there is evidence of the person’s repeated past pattern of specific behavior and actions related to the person’s illness which warrants an involuntary admission

The petition should list descriptions of behavior including time and place, the name address and phone number of any witness(es) to these acts, the relationship of the person to the person being considered for treatment, and names and addresses of spouse, parent, guardian, close relative, or any known friend of the person being considered for treatment.

After the States Attorney accepts a petition, they issue a WRIT for PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION. This Writ for Psychiatric Evaluation orders the police to pick up the person in need of treatment and to transport them immediately to a hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. (This method eliminates the possibility that the police could decide either to do nothing and/or to take the person to jail).

If the States Attorney is unwilling to file the petition, you can hire a private attorney to do so.


http://www.namigc.org/con...atment.htm

I would imagine the procedure varies from state to state.

Now.. this would ONLY be to have her evaluated to determine is she does has a problem requiring meds, for example. It would only be temporary.

If she is bi-polar, for example, in need of meds, then that doesn't mean her family will assume guardianship. In fact, more than likely they won't because she will probably be fine on medication, so there would be no reason for a family to have guardianship. The law can't FORCE a person to take meds--look at all the mentally ill homeless people. Now... if they are found to be a danger to themselves or others.. well that's a different story.

But MY POINT is that if she is indeed found to have a mental illness, all these people "feeding-off" her MIGHT be dissuaded from continuing. It's one thing to assume Britney is complicit in this situation due to her need for publicity--as a deliberate "act" to gain attention. It's quite another for her to be definitively diagnosed as mentally ill.
[Edited 1/20/08 6:47am]

Isel said:

I understand that BUT do you or anyone else remember what the stipulations was for her to see her kids when she did go to court(or she showed up that one time or 2)? I remember one of them she had to attend parenting class but I cant remember the others.
[Edited 1/20/08 7:02am]

toots said:

No. Believe it or not, I don't follow her court proceedings that closely. LOL

Regarding the petition for guardianship though, she would be FORCED to comply to the psychiatric evaluation at least. TREATMENT is a different story. For the rest, it would really depend upon the seriousness of her condition. She could refuse treatment while in the hospital, and depending upon their findings.. that still might not mean she is incapable of handling her affairs. Now...the problem with Britney is a "flight risk," so she might bolt. All of this would have to be done without her knowledge, and that would be the tough part. I'm just sayin' there is more her friends and family might be able to do. They haven't done everything in their power.

However, in the long-term it would just depend.... Would the paps, tabloids, etc., continue to exploit her even if she was found to be mentally ill? I would stay probably since there would still be money to be made. But at least, the general public would know for sure whether the girl is "sick." And I really think the general public would be repulsed that the entertainment media in particular would continue to take advantage of her situation, don't you? TMZ would probably lose its "sugar mama."

Here's an interesting article:
http://www.usatoday.com/n...health.htm
[Edited 1/20/08 7:15am]

Isel said:

True but another scenerio here is this:

The family pulled in Dr.Phil( which in turn said to have rumored and we cant confirm this rumor to where he is or is NOT certified doctor/whatever kind of Dr. he is) BUT taken from what I know or heard, the family pulled him in and Britney sat there not saying a word and refusing to talk to him. That would be her refusing to comply with court orders.

But in a way America will use the mental illnes bit as a crutch. And some will abuse it as well, when there is really NOTHING wrong with them. Sad but true! And yes I think alot would be repulsed depending on the situation.

hellomoto said:

Some dont need a calender, their body gives off signs like backaches, headaches, tiredness, crampy, irratible(moody), bloated(swelling in certain body areas). The list can go on. I know exactly when I start my cycle cause I get really tired and have ZERO energy the day before and then the day of when I start I have a crap load of energy. Sometimes it literaly makes some(or few) women sick to their stomachs. It varies in what the genetics are as well from the women that is in the family.
[Edited 1/20/08 7:29am]

toots said:

Of course, I'm not a Dr. Phil fan! LOL And I don't think he's a psychiatrist, right? He's a psychologist--and there's a huge difference.

The deal is that with a threat of guardianship over her head, I believe she WOULD comply with a psychiatric evaluation if she wanted to be released from a mental health facility. In fact, this last time, her family should have not allowed her to be released. I THINK it was her dad(??) who sprung her from the joint in his custody.. which was a HUGE mistake. I remember reading about it... and it was her dad. Now.. neither the state nor anyone had petitioned for guardianship--which is a little different matter. It's major, binding step.

If Britney is DIAGNOSED with a mental illness, then it's not a crutch for her behavior: it would be the legitimate cause of some of it. And worse case scenario,if left undiagnosed and her condition worsens, she really COULD hurt herself or others. Hell.. she could go-off,have another set of kids, and eventually hurt them--and she might do that regardless of being diagnosed. But at least, there would be something official on-record regarding her condition.

It would be sort of like "building a file" on somebody. A person has build documentation in order to have any power--particular regarding the courts and law.
[Edited 1/20/08 7:38am]

hellomoto said:

There appears to be the monthly blemish on her chin...If/when that occurs, it's hard to miss, and many women do recognize that as an "early warning signal".

Just saying.

Isel said:

Thank you for clearing some things up. And I agree as well. You brought many things to light

Belle said:

O yes I forgot about that thanks:)