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Reply #60 posted 01/05/08 1:23pm

SoulAlive

Isel said:

SoulAlive said:



I heard that Madonna has tried,several times,to reach out to Britney and help her.Britney doesn't listen.I also heard that her old boyfriend Justin Timberlake has tried to help,but it's clear that Britney is in her own crazy world.She won't listen to good advice from anybody.


But.. this is what I was thinking.. if Britney doesn't trust K-Fed or her mom.. I was just wondering if it would be possible for someone like Justin or Madonna to come in to assume guardianship over her temporarily since it appears she can't handle her own affairs?? I know a family can apply for guardianship by having the troubled member declared incapable of handling his/her own affairs. Unfortunately though, it just doesn't appear to me that Britney's family is all that trustworthy. I realize K-fed seems to have "stepped-up" as a "dad" so to speak. However, he also seemed to be a major "enabler" regarding Britney as well. Frankly, K-fed.. well I just look at him as a sort of "gold-digger," not to say that people can't change. It's just I could understand why Britney might not "trust" the guy because I'm not so sure his affection for her was real.. It may have been.. but it sure doesn't look that way from the outside.

I'm talking about more than just giving advice because it's obvious Britney is incapable of "listening" much less following anything.. I was just wondering if Justin or Madge along with the court perhaps.. could convince Britney to allow him or her to assume responsibility of her affairs--even her financial ties to Kevin..her mom and immediate family.. all the sycophant types. Madge would be the better choice because I think Justin would confuse Britney... No.. Somebody like Madge..if she could intervene and essentially become Britney's temporary "legal guardian." If Britney signed-off on it, I would imagine it would be possible??


That's actually a good idea.Madonna could be the "mother figure" that Britney so desperately needs right now.It would great if she could intervene.
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Reply #61 posted 01/05/08 1:25pm

SoulAlive

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Since she kissed Madonna, B lost it! sad


LOL, I do consider it odd that the night after she gave Madonna the tongue that Britney's life and career went into haywire overnight, lol.



Actually,Britney's problems began when Justin Timberlake dumped her.She never got over him wink
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Reply #62 posted 01/05/08 1:40pm

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SoulAlive said:

Isel said:



But.. this is what I was thinking.. if Britney doesn't trust K-Fed or her mom.. I was just wondering if it would be possible for someone like Justin or Madonna to come in to assume guardianship over her temporarily since it appears she can't handle her own affairs?? I know a family can apply for guardianship by having the troubled member declared incapable of handling his/her own affairs. Unfortunately though, it just doesn't appear to me that Britney's family is all that trustworthy. I realize K-fed seems to have "stepped-up" as a "dad" so to speak. However, he also seemed to be a major "enabler" regarding Britney as well. Frankly, K-fed.. well I just look at him as a sort of "gold-digger," not to say that people can't change. It's just I could understand why Britney might not "trust" the guy because I'm not so sure his affection for her was real.. It may have been.. but it sure doesn't look that way from the outside.

I'm talking about more than just giving advice because it's obvious Britney is incapable of "listening" much less following anything.. I was just wondering if Justin or Madge along with the court perhaps.. could convince Britney to allow him or her to assume responsibility of her affairs--even her financial ties to Kevin..her mom and immediate family.. all the sycophant types. Madge would be the better choice because I think Justin would confuse Britney... No.. Somebody like Madge..if she could intervene and essentially become Britney's temporary "legal guardian." If Britney signed-off on it, I would imagine it would be possible??


That's actually a good idea.Madonna could be the "mother figure" that Britney so desperately needs right now.It would great if she could intervene.



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Reply #63 posted 01/05/08 1:46pm

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Isel said:

Can't "the state" commit her to a mental health facility?

I would say that her family could try to apply for a "guardianship," but her family--including K-fed--seems to have ulterior motives about Britney herself and her fortune even though they might have the kids' best interest in mind. I just wouldn't trust them with a guardianship over Britney because I just think none of them appear to care about Britney as a person.

It just a sad situation to witness... And really it was shocking to see this on the news last night included among all political discussions.

It's obvious something needs to be done. I wonder if somebody from the outside--somebody she could trust whose interest wouldn't be Britney's money could come-in and help her.... There has GOT to be somebody with her best interest at heart. Her family, lovers.. and her "team" just have too much financially to gain from her..

Does anyone know if "the state" or some social service group--or somebody from the outside could obtain a guardianship and power of attorney.. to handle Britney's affairs including her dealings with K-fed, her kids, and her immediate family??? Is that even possible?

P.S. I remember reading about Frank Sinatra taking care of a former heavy-weight boxer.... So.. could some celebrity--like even Madonna maybe?? could he/she come in and try to help?? Somebody like Madge would have nothing to gain from Britney... She would have no ulterior motives.

I know that sounds silly, but Britney's family seems to be just horrible. Didn't Joe Dimaggio try to help Marilyn Monroe? I know they were married and divorced, but I think I read he tried to help her. That's the kind of person Britney needs in her life.
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Regan shut down most of CA mental hospitals when he was governor here.
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Reply #64 posted 01/05/08 1:50pm

SoulAlive

ehuffnsd said:

SoulAlive said:



That's actually a good idea.Madonna could be the "mother figure" that Britney so desperately needs right now.It would great if she could intervene.



you can't help those that don't want help


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Reply #65 posted 01/05/08 2:06pm

SoulAlive

TotalAlisa said:

Isel said:



But.. this is what I was thinking.. if Britney doesn't trust K-Fed or her mom.. I was just wondering if it would be possible for someone like Justin or Madonna to come in to assume guardianship over her temporarily since it appears she can't handle her own affairs?? I know a family can apply for guardianship by having the troubled member declared incapable of handling his/her own affairs. Unfortunately though, it just doesn't appear to me that Britney's family is all that trustworthy. I realize K-fed seems to have "stepped-up" as a "dad" so to speak. However, he also seemed to be a major "enabler" regarding Britney as well. Frankly, K-fed.. well I just look at him as a sort of "gold-digger," not to say that people can't change. It's just I could understand why Britney might not "trust" the guy because I'm not so sure his affection for her was real.. It may have been.. but it sure doesn't look that way from the outside.

I'm talking about more than just giving advice because it's obvious Britney is incapable of "listening" much less following anything.. I was just wondering if Justin or Madge along with the court perhaps.. could convince Britney to allow him or her to assume responsibility of her affairs--even her financial ties to Kevin..her mom and immediate family.. all the sycophant types. Madge would be the better choice because I think Justin would confuse Britney... No.. Somebody like Madge..if she could intervene and essentially become Britney's temporary "legal guardian." If Britney signed-off on it, I would imagine it would be possible??



madonna is not jesus christ... and she can't do anything.... even brits own mom couldn't help her...


Nobody is saying that Madonna is Jesus Christ wink It's just she's been a superstar for 25 years now.She knows how to deal with the ups and downs of being famous and living life in the spotlight.She's had some personal problems in her life but still she remained focus and never self-destructed.I'm sure there's alot of good advice that she could give Britney.Plus,Britney looks up to her.
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Reply #66 posted 01/05/08 2:13pm

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TotalAlisa said:




madonna is not jesus christ... and she can't do anything.... even brits own mom couldn't help her...


Nobody is saying that Madonna is Jesus Christ wink It's just she's been a superstar for 25 years now.She knows how to deal with the ups and downs of being famous and living life in the spotlight.She's had some personal problems in her life but still she remained focus and never self-destructed.I'm sure there's alot of good advice that she could give Britney.Plus,Britney looks up to her.

Brit needs a good pyschologist, some therapy, good psych drugs, and a 12step program.
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Reply #67 posted 01/05/08 2:24pm

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ehuffnsd said:

SoulAlive said:



Nobody is saying that Madonna is Jesus Christ wink It's just she's been a superstar for 25 years now.She knows how to deal with the ups and downs of being famous and living life in the spotlight.She's had some personal problems in her life but still she remained focus and never self-destructed.I'm sure there's alot of good advice that she could give Britney.Plus,Britney looks up to her.

Brit needs a good pyschologist, some therapy, good psych drugs, and a 12step program.

she need a real black man...like bobby brown
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Reply #68 posted 01/05/08 3:40pm

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Britney Spears Out of Hospital

People.com

1/5/08

Back home, Britney Spears spent the early part of Saturday with dad Jamie after being released from Cedars-Sinai hospital, PEOPLE has confirmed.

Spears's mom Lynne, who yesterday called for prayers for the embattled singer, remains in their hometown of Kentwood, La.

Spears left the Los Angeles medical facility Saturday via an underground tunnel and was accompanied by TV therapist Dr. Phil, according to etonline.com, who first reported the news.

A Cedars-Sinai spokesperson declined to comment, but Dr. Phil released a statement to ET saying: "My meeting with Britney and some family members this morning in her room at Cedars leaves me convinced more than ever that she is in dire need of both medical and psychological intervention.

"She was released moments before my arrival and was packing when I entered the room. We visited for about an hour before I walked with her to her car."

Spears had been committed early Friday morning under California's "5150 Hold," in which Spears was deemed a danger to herself and could be held for 72 hours. Patients however can be released early if doctors determine they are no longer a threat to themselves.

"The 5150 legality is very loose," says Dr. Nathan Kuemmerle, a West Hollywood psychiatrist. "The 72 hours are not firm. All it requires is an ER psychiatrist to release the patient. ... If Britney isn't suicidal or homicidal, she doesn't need to be hospitalized."
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Reply #69 posted 01/05/08 3:43pm

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Well Brits out of the nut house and at home restin' ! nuts eye hope that she gets her head out of her ass and gets betta' !
peace PEACE.....It does not mean 2 be in a place where there is no noise,trouble,or hardwork.It means 2 be in the midst of those things and still be calm in your heart ! heart
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Reply #70 posted 01/05/08 3:46pm

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SoulAlive said:

TotalAlisa said:




madonna is not jesus christ... and she can't do anything.... even brits own mom couldn't help her...


Nobody is saying that Madonna is Jesus Christ wink It's just she's been a superstar for 25 years now.She knows how to deal with the ups and downs of being famous and living life in the spotlight.She's had some personal problems in her life but still she remained focus and never self-destructed.I'm sure there's alot of good advice that she could give Britney.Plus,Britney looks up to her.


my whole point is that madonna cannot change anything... its more then just talking to someone... but never mind.. im not going to explain... if her own mom can't help i know madonna wont be able to...

why would you go to another person who can't do anything when you can go to jesus who can????
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Reply #71 posted 01/05/08 3:59pm

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TotalAlisa said:

SoulAlive said:



Nobody is saying that Madonna is Jesus Christ wink It's just she's been a superstar for 25 years now.She knows how to deal with the ups and downs of being famous and living life in the spotlight.She's had some personal problems in her life but still she remained focus and never self-destructed.I'm sure there's alot of good advice that she could give Britney.Plus,Britney looks up to her.


my whole point is that madonna cannot change anything... its more then just talking to someone... but never mind.. im not going to explain... if her own mom can't help i know madonna wont be able to...

why would you go to another person who can't do anything when you can go to jesus who can????


one would have to believe that Jesus was something more than a fairytale made up to soothe the masses.
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Reply #72 posted 01/05/08 4:19pm

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how can she have such long hair already?
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #73 posted 01/05/08 4:23pm

Isel

I'm not suggesting Madge is Jesus... I'm just suggesting somebody who has nothing to gain from Britney.

As far as Britney's mom is concerned, Lynn Spears kids support HER. They are the breadwinners.. not Lynn. And this asking for prayers...well she is probably busy right now selling some photos or "her story" to somebody.

Sometimes evil is disguised in virtue, and it just appears to me that prayer.. bs is more to make Lynn Spears look "good" rather than to really help Britney. Hey.. if she REALLY wanted to help Britney, why didn't Lynn Spears insist that the girl complete more than the 9th grade? Britney has just over a middle school education. Maybe if she had gone to school, some of this stuff could have been addressed early? And.. btw, I STILL say Britney looks like she may have been affected by fetal alcohol syndrome.. and THAT can lead to depression...attention deficit among other disorders and learning disabilities.

No.. Lynn Spears.. if I were Britney, I sure as heck wouldn't trust her either.

And Dr Phil??? Oh please, I don't think that guy is even a psychologist, is he? Why did he get involve?? Nah, he's just one more person trying to "use" her.

I just think Britney needs a mediator--an advocate. There are agencies that could advocate for her, but I really think she needs somebody SHE CAN TRUST WHO ALREADY HAD A SHITLOAD OF MONEY to handle her best interest.

You know who I was thinking of.. Maybe Tom Mesereau--the guy who defended Michael Jackson. He supports a number of causes. Of course, family law is probably not his forte, but this is the type of person I'm talking about--somebody who WILL have compassion FOR HER and look after her best interest. Somebody who doesn't "need" her and maybe can see she needs help in spite of her perceived arrogance.
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Reply #74 posted 01/05/08 4:26pm

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Isel said:

I'm not suggesting Madge is Jesus... I'm just suggesting somebody who has nothing to gain from Britney.

As far as Britney's mom is concerned, Lynn Spears kids support HER. They are the breadwinners.. not Lynn. And this asking for prayers...well she is probably busy right now selling some photos or "her story" to somebody.

Sometimes evil is disguised in virtue, and it just appears to me that prayer.. bs is more to make Lynn Spears look "good" rather than to really help Britney. Hey.. if she REALLY wanted to help Britney, why didn't Lynn Spears insist that the girl complete more than the 9th grade? Britney has just over a middle school education. Maybe if she had gone to school, some of this stuff could have been addressed early? And.. btw, I STILL say Britney looks like she may have been affected by fetal alcohol syndrome.. and THAT can lead to depression...attention deficit among other disorders and learning disabilities.

No.. Lynn Spears.. if I were Britney, I sure as heck wouldn't trust her either.

And Dr Phil??? Oh please, I don't think that guy is even a psychologist, is he? Why did he get involve?? Nah, he's just one more person trying to "use" her.

I just think Britney needs a mediator--an advocate. There are agencies that could advocate for her, but I really think she needs somebody SHE CAN TRUST WHO ALREADY HAD A SHITLOAD OF MONEY to handle her best interest.

You know who I was thinking of.. Maybe Tom Mesereau--the guy who defended Michael Jackson. He supports a number of causes. Of course, family law is probably not his forte, but this is the type of person I'm talking about--somebody who WILL have compassion FOR HER and look after her best interest. Somebody who doesn't "need" her and maybe can see she needs help in spite of her perceived arrogance.

Lynne stayed in LA, Jamie was the only parent at the hospital and if i'm not mistaken he himself at one point had to deal with a cocaine addiction problem in the early part of the 00s.

maybe her dad can do some actual real good for her.
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Reply #75 posted 01/05/08 4:31pm

Isel

ehuffnsd said:

Isel said:

I'm not suggesting Madge is Jesus... I'm just suggesting somebody who has nothing to gain from Britney.

As far as Britney's mom is concerned, Lynn Spears kids support HER. They are the breadwinners.. not Lynn. And this asking for prayers...well she is probably busy right now selling some photos or "her story" to somebody.

Sometimes evil is disguised in virtue, and it just appears to me that prayer.. bs is more to make Lynn Spears look "good" rather than to really help Britney. Hey.. if she REALLY wanted to help Britney, why didn't Lynn Spears insist that the girl complete more than the 9th grade? Britney has just over a middle school education. Maybe if she had gone to school, some of this stuff could have been addressed early? And.. btw, I STILL say Britney looks like she may have been affected by fetal alcohol syndrome.. and THAT can lead to depression...attention deficit among other disorders and learning disabilities.

No.. Lynn Spears.. if I were Britney, I sure as heck wouldn't trust her either.

And Dr Phil??? Oh please, I don't think that guy is even a psychologist, is he? Why did he get involve?? Nah, he's just one more person trying to "use" her.

I just think Britney needs a mediator--an advocate. There are agencies that could advocate for her, but I really think she needs somebody SHE CAN TRUST WHO ALREADY HAD A SHITLOAD OF MONEY to handle her best interest.

You know who I was thinking of.. Maybe Tom Mesereau--the guy who defended Michael Jackson. He supports a number of causes. Of course, family law is probably not his forte, but this is the type of person I'm talking about--somebody who WILL have compassion FOR HER and look after her best interest. Somebody who doesn't "need" her and maybe can see she needs help in spite of her perceived arrogance.

Lynne stayed in LA, Jamie was the only parent at the hospital and if i'm not mistaken he himself at one point had to deal with a cocaine addiction problem in the early part of the 00s.

maybe her dad can do some actual real good for her.


I'm sorry I'm really hard on her mom, but..well. there is something weird with that woman.

It's good her dad was there. You're right: maybe he can help her?

But.. I still say hire Tom Mesereau. I have always been very impressed with Mesereaus's passion.. He obviously has experience with difficult clients, but of course (before you all correct me) Mesereau probably doesn't work in family law. However, he might work in mediation???
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Reply #76 posted 01/05/08 4:38pm

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Isel said:

ehuffnsd said:


Lynne stayed in LA, Jamie was the only parent at the hospital and if i'm not mistaken he himself at one point had to deal with a cocaine addiction problem in the early part of the 00s.

maybe her dad can do some actual real good for her.


I'm sorry I'm really hard on her mom, but..well. there is something weird with that woman.

It's good her dad was there. You're right: maybe he can help her?

But.. I still say hire Tom Mesereau. I have always been very impressed with Mesereaus's passion.. He obviously has experience with difficult clients, but of course (before you all correct me) Mesereau probably doesn't work in family law. However, he might work in mediation???



no reason to appologize on your views about Lynne. I tend to think the same thing.
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Reply #77 posted 01/05/08 6:25pm

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Isel said:



I would say that her family could try to apply for a "guardianship," but her family--including K-fed--seems to have ulterior motives about Britney herself and her fortune even though they might have the kids' best interest in mind. I just wouldn't trust them with a guardianship over Britney because I just think none of them appear to care about Britney as a person.


Her family & former close friends have tried to reach out to Britney and talk some sense into her. She has alienated herself from them and everybody else. Her manager quit her and 3 of her attorneys have quit her because she won't take direction. She cut her mother off because she kept telling her that she needed to get to a rehabilitation center. Kevin visited her during her rehab stint and drove out to the hospital the other night to go see her. I don't think her family is out to do harm to Britney.
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Reply #78 posted 01/05/08 6:34pm

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SoulAlive said:

Janfriend said:

I don't make fun of her, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for her. I just found out today she was feeding her children soda out of the bottle instead of formula and went to the dentist to try to get him to whiten their teeth disbelief


I don't feel sorry for her,either.She can fix her problems,she can get help,she has the resources to do that.For some reason,she chooses not to.She gets no sympathy from me.Until she wises up and does what she needs to do,the circus will continue.It's her choice.


I totally agree with you.

I was officially "done" when I saw how careless she acted when her kids were threatened to be taken. This would be ROCK BOTTOM for any mother that truly loves her children. Any caring mother would've been abided by whatever it took to prevent that from happening. Yet she wanted to go driving around with her friends and go clubbing instead of taking her ass to court to fight for her kids. She has more access to resources than most ppl in America. If she wanted help for herself, she knows how to get it. She doesn't want it -- so why should I feel "sorry" for her.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #79 posted 01/05/08 6:36pm

Scorpion

Isel said:

SoulAlive said:



I heard that Madonna has tried,several times,to reach out to Britney and help her.Britney doesn't listen.I also heard that her old boyfriend Justin Timberlake has tried to help,but it's clear that Britney is in her own crazy world.She won't listen to good advice from anybody.


But.. this is what I was thinking.. if Britney doesn't trust K-Fed or her mom.. I was just wondering if it would be possible for someone like Justin or Madonna to come in to assume guardianship over her temporarily since it appears she can't handle her own affairs?? I know a family can apply for guardianship by having the troubled member declared incapable of handling his/her own affairs. Unfortunately though, it just doesn't appear to me that Britney's family is all that trustworthy. I realize K-fed seems to have "stepped-up" as a "dad" so to speak. However, he also seemed to be a major "enabler" regarding Britney as well. Frankly, K-fed.. well I just look at him as a sort of "gold-digger," not to say that people can't change. It's just I could understand why Britney might not "trust" the guy because I'm not so sure his affection for her was real.. It may have been.. but it sure doesn't look that way from the outside.

I'm talking about more than just giving advice because it's obvious Britney is incapable of "listening" much less following anything.. I was just wondering if Justin or Madge along with the court perhaps.. could convince Britney to allow him or her to assume responsibility of her affairs--even her financial ties to Kevin..her mom and immediate family.. all the sycophant types. Madge would be the better choice because I think Justin would confuse Britney... No.. Somebody like Madge..if she could intervene and essentially become Britney's temporary "legal guardian." If Britney signed-off on it, I would imagine it would be possible??
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Britney's FAMILY needs to assume guardianship over her -- not these celebrities that have their own careers & busy lives.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #80 posted 01/05/08 6:45pm

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Scorpion said:

SoulAlive said:



I don't feel sorry for her,either.She can fix her problems,she can get help,she has the resources to do that.For some reason,she chooses not to.She gets no sympathy from me.Until she wises up and does what she needs to do,the circus will continue.It's her choice.


I totally agree with you.

I was officially "done" when I saw how careless she acted when her kids were threatened to be taken. This would be ROCK BOTTOM for any mother that truly loves her children. Any caring mother would've been abided by whatever it took to prevent that from happening. Yet she wanted to go driving around with her friends and go clubbing instead of taking her ass to court to fight for her kids. She has more access to resources than most ppl in America. If she wanted help for herself, she knows how to get it. She doesn't want it -- so why should I feel "sorry" for her.



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Reply #81 posted 01/05/08 7:28pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Scorpion said:



I totally agree with you.

I was officially "done" when I saw how careless she acted when her kids were threatened to be taken. This would be ROCK BOTTOM for any mother that truly loves her children. Any caring mother would've been abided by whatever it took to prevent that from happening. Yet she wanted to go driving around with her friends and go clubbing instead of taking her ass to court to fight for her kids. She has more access to resources than most ppl in America. If she wanted help for herself, she knows how to get it. She doesn't want it -- so why should I feel "sorry" for her.



co-sign...


I disagree.

People with a mental illness often refuse help (whether or not they have the funds like Britney Spears) without knowing what it good for them. This looks like a classic case of bipolar disorder.

Often people with a mental illness do not know if they are hurting themselves or the people that they love.
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Reply #82 posted 01/05/08 7:53pm

Isel

Scorpion said:

Isel said:



I would say that her family could try to apply for a "guardianship," but her family--including K-fed--seems to have ulterior motives about Britney herself and her fortune even though they might have the kids' best interest in mind. I just wouldn't trust them with a guardianship over Britney because I just think none of them appear to care about Britney as a person.


Her family & former close friends have tried to reach out to Britney and talk some sense into her. She has alienated herself from them and everybody else. Her manager quit her and 3 of her attorneys have quit her because she won't take direction. She cut her mother off because she kept telling her that she needed to get to a rehabilitation center. Kevin visited her during her rehab stint and drove out to the hospital the other night to go see her. I don't think her family is out to do harm to Britney.


Her family and "close friends" have tried to reach-out to her? Which ones-- the ones on her payroll? No.. you might be right about celebrities... but her family obtaining guardianship would be very dangerous. Everything--EVERYTHING then would be in their power... all of her accounts.. everything. No. Somebody from the outside--even if it's an agent of state, an advocate or mediator would be better. I was suggesting that maybe Britney herself might be comfortable with somebody who hasn't screwed her literally and figuratively. Madonna and Justin aren't good choices, but maybe a Mesereau type person or perhaps her dad might have it together? Maybe it's time for him to finally take charge? I don't know that much about him because all I've ever seen is Lynne.

That said, from my perspective, this "help" from her family and friends have offered might be a too little too late. Britney Spears is mentally ill, period. She is incapable of listening now. I would imagine,it’s more en vogue to be a drug addict then it is to have a mental illness. So ironically, sending Brit to rehab was really more a way of saving face, if you will. A number of people have problems with depression. learning disabilities what have you. There is no shame in that. But I guess it’s still taboo to admit to having a mental illness, particularly for a pop-star? I guess being a bi-polar music-video artist isn’t as attractive or marketable? So unfortunately for Britney, it was probably more dealing with illness would have been a bit inconvenient and counter-productive to being a pop icon. Yes, she might be a drug addict, too, but it just appears to be a little bit more than a drug problem where she could spend a few weeks in rehab or even months in rehab and clean-upto live to drop a cd another day.

As far as K-fed.. that guy.. c’mon.. I don’t know him.. he might be trying to do right by his kids, but isn’t this same guy who left his pregnant girlfriend for Britney?? No.. I don’t think he has Britney’s best interest at heart.. I’m not suggesting he wants to see her die, but I have this feeling Brit wasn’t all there when they were dating and he KNEW it.. even enabled her. Before K-fed didn’t Brit marry some childhood sweetheart in Vegas just a few months before? Wasn’t her quickie marriage and annulment all over the news? No, k-fed knew she was his meal-ticket. He KNEW she was unstable, but saw a great opportunity. He may have even convinced himself he loved her, but what he really loved was her lifestyle. I don’t have much respect for him because that girl was a friggin mess, and he KNEW it, but he wanted.. to be a star, I guess?? Well great.. now he’s a star, for what? Yeah.. that’s just great. He’s obviously a terrific guy trying to help her now and all. Ain’t that sweet? Gee he’s swell. Let's just say, it's complicated.

And her mom.. oh please.. she had control over Britney as a child.. I’m not sure about her dad, but it sure appears her mom had a vested interest in seeing Brit make-it.. so much so she pulls her out of school and pimps her out?? C’mon.. what parent would do that if he/she really had the child’s best interestlong-termat heart?? As far as I’m concerned it’s a sort of child abuse. Plus. there has always been something not quite right about Brit. I’m telling ya’ll if you look very closely at Brit, she looks like a fetal alcohol kid wide eyes.. sort of deformed ears. I’m not a fan of her music at all, but I’ve always noticed she had this vacant look in her eyes. Her mom sold her out probably more than we will ever know, so now she’s praying to God to help Brit?? Why couldn’t Lynne Spears be a mom to her when she had the opportunity? Now it’s up to God? That’s nice of her to think of God now.

Like I said, I’m sorry to be so hard on the mom because sometimes parents can do the best job, and it doesn't matter.. but that doesn't seem to be Lynne Spears. Now, she's playing this part of this rightious woman caught in this turmoil of her own making. They could have WALKED away from show business many times, but no the money was just too good. Also Lynne Spears witnessed the pressure on Britney, but she pimps-out her youngest daughter, too?? Does Jaime-Lynn have any education at all? Brit’s parents could have put her success on hold to have her finish school at least but chose the expedient path. And I have this feeling--well more than a feeling that Brit had issues all along, but people looked the other way. So.. yeah..it just seems to me Lynne Spears shouldn't be writing any books about anything--even the business because if she didn't "like it"--if the business was destroying her kids, then she could have gotten them the hell out. But I have this feeling that Lynne was probably in denial because after all, she was "a star" by extension and reaped the benefits.

Yeah, that’s just great they are trying to help her now when it’s nearly all but too late. Maybe they feel guilty? They should because now it appears Britney is nearly beyond help. She can’t help herself because she is mentally ill, yet she has so much money.. well it’s gonna be a long drop to hit bottom . There will always be someone there to enable her, and get some exposure in the process. Unfortunately, it looks like now she might not even survive the fall. All the money and resources in the world and Britney Spears still might end-up dead. So what's it all worth? It just goes to show that having the means doesn't mean that much in the final analysis.
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Reply #83 posted 01/05/08 10:59pm

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SoulAlive said:



That's actually a good idea.Madonna could be the "mother figure" that Britney so desperately needs right now.It would great if she could intervene.



you can't help those that don't want help



Not to mention the fact that Madonna has her own life and her own family and career to focus on. Who needs to take on the troubles of a fully grown adult who appears to court endless disaster and a media circus? I know I wouldn't want to and I certinly wouldn't want to have my children (i.e. Lourdes and little Rocco) around that kind of toxicity either neutral
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Reply #84 posted 01/05/08 11:45pm

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http://www.people.com/peo...88,00.html
Lynne Spears's Parenting Book 'Delayed Indefinitely'
Lynne Spears's book about raising her famous daughters Britney and Jamie Lynn has been put on hold, the publisher confirms to PEOPLE.
"The book is delayed indefinitely. It's delayed, not cancelled," says a spokeswoman for Thomas Nelson, which publishes inspirational books and Bibles.
It had been scheduled for a spring 2008 release and was put on hold last week, says the rep. On Tuesday, news hit that 16-year-old Jamie Lynn is pregnant with her boyfriend's child.
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Reply #85 posted 01/05/08 11:59pm

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jn2 said:


http://www.people.com/peo...88,00.html
Lynne Spears's Parenting Book 'Delayed Indefinitely'
Lynne Spears's book about raising her famous daughters Britney and Jamie Lynn has been put on hold, the publisher confirms to PEOPLE.
"The book is delayed indefinitely. It's delayed, not cancelled," says a spokeswoman for Thomas Nelson, which publishes inspirational books and Bibles.
It had been scheduled for a spring 2008 release and was put on hold last week, says the rep. On Tuesday, news hit that 16-year-old Jamie Lynn is pregnant with her boyfriend's child.


Guess she needed time to add some more chapters.
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Reply #86 posted 01/06/08 2:40am

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^^^Looks like her sister Jamie Lynn is following right in her sisters foot steps! A baby on the way....her career now in the dumps.....good job Mr. and Mrs. Spears!!! sad
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Reply #87 posted 01/06/08 8:50am

Isel

Just out of curiosity.. I did a little bit of research on "Dr. Phil" because frankly I'm not even that familiar with him.

First and foremost, I have to correct myself: Dr. Phil is indeed a "psychologist," but what I couldn't verify is if his license is still current in California? It's no longer current in Texas. As a matter of fact, there was a grievance filed against him in Texas for "unethical conduct," resulting in Phil's license being suspended until he successfully completely a sort of "growth" plan. But the point is that he doesn't even appear to have a valid, current license in the state of Cali, so why the hell is he allowed to "practice" on television?

And even if he DID have a valid license, Dr. Phil is NOT a psychiatrist--a true medical doctor able to prescribe meds--which from what I understand are needed to treat bi-polar disorders. So basically, he's unqualified to even deal with Britney in the first place.

Man... Dr. Phil is such a "snake-oil" salesman, but he’s allowed to visit Britney, a girl on the verge of suicide? What the hell? There has GOT to be some credible, disinterested, third-party, true professional person out there to take charge of this travesty of a situation.
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Reply #88 posted 01/06/08 8:55am

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Isel said:

Man... Dr. Phil is such a "snake-oil" salesman, but he’s allowed to visit Britney, a girl on the verge of suicide? What the hell? There has GOT to be some credible, disinterested, third-party, true professional person out there to take charge of this travesty of a situation.


Amazing that folks take this dude seriously. It's like getting advice from Foghorn Leghorn.
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Reply #89 posted 01/06/08 9:26am

RipHer2Shreds

uPtoWnNY said:

Isel said:

Man... Dr. Phil is such a "snake-oil" salesman, but he’s allowed to visit Britney, a girl on the verge of suicide? What the hell? There has GOT to be some credible, disinterested, third-party, true professional person out there to take charge of this travesty of a situation.


Amazing that folks take this dude seriously. It's like getting advice from Foghorn Leghorn.

nod He's paid boatloads of dough to shout common sense in people's faces.
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