If I were the same exact person, only 15 years old, I would certainly see life differently.

How could I not? The world changes through experience.

I love my generation's music, future generation's music, my parent's generation, my grandparents and their parent's parents. How dumb would I have to be if thousands of albums made no indelible mark?

If all one ever embraces is their generation's music, I can guarantee that that will remain a self-fulfilling prophecy of sound.

The mainstream has always been fraught with countless problems, I'm just surmising through experience that it's sicker now than ever before. Doesn't mean that there aren't any great artists or songs that find their way onto the airwaves.

The world is not black and white like that. It's endlessly complicated and gray. No one flipped a switch and made radio bad one day back in September.

And being sicker than ever before might just be where were headed, with more music everyday seemingly getting buried in private sessions with iPods, satellite radio, CDs and Music Choice on cable; radio -- and even music videos -- just don't have that same large audience in which to influence.

And part of the beauty of the system is that no matter how awful things get, including gifting and payola, radio listeners will remain adamant that they are getting mostly fed the best meals, when such beliefs are only disseminated to perpetuate their own existence.

But how can I possibly convince someone who is mostly fed on a steady diet of what commercial radio plays that it's more misguided than even before?

And, besides, on the complete flip side, rejecting something that's truly moving you would be horrible. I think we all have to learn from others, no matter what age or level of experience, but firstly you've got to trust your own instincts.

And the wiser you become, the more you'll change; even if part of being young is thinking that you know it all.

When the real truth is, the more you actually know, the more you'll realize just how little you know. And that include all of us.

Something is wrong here. More empty and worthless than my intended posts.

I think that the charts like Billboard used to reflect a greater amount of the population, whereas now, like Brendan said, lots of music is "getting buried in private sessions with iPods [and] satellite radio" which has nothing to do with charts, but certainly would tell us more about what people really like if it was as trackable as "cassette sales" in the 1980s.

Cinnie said:

It's just so splintered now.

MTV's rather significant audience completely switched over the many years from watching music videos to reality television.

Yet, somehow, I'm guessing that this demographic that has left music to the fringes would tell you flat out that they know what they're talking about.

That's that crazy thing about life, we all know what we're talking about, but is anybody really listening.

purplesweat said:

Rihanna was all over the place too right from the get-go. What's your point? You act as if she had to actually, ya know, struggle or work or have talent to get where she was at and not suck a few cocks in the studio. Think she didn't? How else do you explain a "star" who can't dance, can't sing, and relies on producers to do everything for her?

vainandy said:

That's why I like k-Os. He does sample, but it's not excessive, and when he does it's either something original or something obscure enough it's not a pissoff to hear it in the song.



I still can't believe that Sean Kingston twat used "Stand By Me". Not cool.

theghostoftonym said:

Thanks for that. But I think you definitely veered off the thread topic about the profound shit that is mainstream Top 40 -which is what I was referring to -and into the realm of listenable music.

Where, pray tell, is the artistry in just singing or rapping over someone else's work? I mean in cases were (and this is all too common these days) the "sample" makes up the entire song?

Brendan said:

I can't tell you how many times I offered & explained very real, doable & practical solutions to various solutions to the world's problems,
but it was always here on prince.org.
So they're never stood a chance.

That's why,
when it comes my posts,
if it ain't gonna be heard,
then it's gonna be pointless.

And that's also the reason why I post the majority of 'em over in the General Discussion forum.

we should just redirect this thread to here....

http://prince.org/msg/8/250719

bboy87 said:

This whole thread can sumed up by bboy87's comments. Whoop, there it is!