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Thread started 05/28/07 11:13pm

datdude

Kylie is so irrelevant in the states

she seems to get a lot of pub on this site, but it doesn't seem like folks in the states are even checkin' for Kylie Minogue. her "come back" hit from a few years ago could've easily had any liposuctioned waif singing it. it was hot because of the track.
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Reply #1 posted 05/28/07 11:17pm

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Well, Im an Australian and I am not a fan of Kylie, however calling her a liposuctioned waif is a bit harsh considering the girl had breast cancer
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Reply #2 posted 05/29/07 12:59am

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datdude said:

she seems to get a lot of pub on this site, but it doesn't seem like folks in the states are even checkin' for Kylie Minogue. her "come back" hit from a few years ago could've easily had any liposuctioned waif singing it. it was hot because of the track.


I am an enormous Kylie fan and was born and raised in the US. She has not broken the US market totally because the US market is lame. Her music this decade is the best, most sophisticated pop to be released.
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Reply #3 posted 05/29/07 1:36am

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datdude said:

she seems to get a lot of pub on this site, but it doesn't seem like folks in the states are even checkin' for Kylie Minogue. her "come back" hit from a few years ago could've easily had any liposuctioned waif singing it. it was hot because of the track.


no, dear. it's your attitude that's irrevelant. wink
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Reply #4 posted 05/29/07 1:54am

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Moonbeam said:

datdude said:

she seems to get a lot of pub on this site, but it doesn't seem like folks in the states are even checkin' for Kylie Minogue. her "come back" hit from a few years ago could've easily had any liposuctioned waif singing it. it was hot because of the track.


I am an enormous Kylie fan and was born and raised in the US. She has not broken the US market totally because the US market is lame. Her music this decade is the best, most sophisticated pop to be released.

That would be Bjork.
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Reply #5 posted 05/29/07 2:15am

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Her music this decade is the best, most sophisticated pop to be released.

That would be Bjork.


No, Kylie.
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Reply #6 posted 05/29/07 2:54am

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datdude said:

she seems to get a lot of pub on this site, but it doesn't seem like folks in the states are even checkin' for Kylie Minogue. her "come back" hit from a few years ago could've easily had any liposuctioned waif singing it. it was hot because of the track.


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Reply #7 posted 05/29/07 4:27am

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Do you guys seriously think that she could sing confused ?
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Reply #8 posted 05/29/07 4:45am

MikeMatronik

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Do you guys seriously think that she could sing confused ?


Yep she can...and she carries an entire tour with using lip-synch. She's not like Janet or Madonna.
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Reply #9 posted 05/29/07 5:44am

datdude

it's funny how the attacks turn personal on a music site. but maybe i asked for it with the liposuction comment, didn't know she's a cancer survivor, i'm happy for her in that regard. i was truly "ignorant" in that sense,

but about the MUSIC the most complicated pop of the decade and an entire COUNTRY misses out?! even with the "industry" in the US being what it is, kinda hard to believe. others have circumvented it and found an audience. for ex. i had to go find out who Bjork was the buzz on her was so strong.

la, la, la, la x 10....i just can't get u outta my head... maybe she's this decade's Donna Summer or something
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Reply #10 posted 05/29/07 6:07am

MikeMatronik

datdude said:

it's funny how the attacks turn personal on a music site. but maybe i asked for it with the liposuction comment, didn't know she's a cancer survivor, i'm happy for her in that regard. i was truly "ignorant" in that sense,

but about the MUSIC the most complicated pop of the decade and an entire COUNTRY misses out?! even with the "industry" in the US being what it is, kinda hard to believe. others have circumvented it and found an audience. for ex. i had to go find out who Bjork was the buzz on her was so strong.

la, la, la, la x 10....i just can't get u outta my head... maybe she's this decade's Donna Summer or something


Because american only Hip-Hop, the worse genre of music ever created by man!
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Reply #11 posted 05/29/07 6:17am

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Reply #12 posted 05/29/07 6:18am

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nah mike you can't blame hip-hop for Kylie's uh, lack.
like i said, i found Bjork. if she's THAT dope, all the more reason why ppl would be flocking to her like say Amy Winehouse or some other foreign import with SKILLS
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Reply #13 posted 05/29/07 6:20am

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Most people in the US and Canadian don't even know she exists. The radio played her one song to death (can't even remember the name of it now). I soon got tired of hearing it and seeing the video over and over again. Other than this one song from a few years ago, I agree that she's fairly irrelvant outside of her home country.
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Reply #14 posted 05/29/07 6:26am

MikeMatronik

Empress said:

Most people in the US and Canadian don't even know she exists. The radio played her one song to death (can't even remember the name of it now). I soon got tired of hearing it and seeing the video over and over again. Other than this one song from a few years ago, I agree that she's fairly irrelvant outside of her home country.


Yep...She's Australian!

The poor little girl flopped so many times in the UK! sad
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Reply #15 posted 05/29/07 6:27am

MikeMatronik

datdude said:

nah mike you can't blame hip-hop for Kylie's uh, lack.
like i said, i found Bjork. if she's THAT dope, all the more reason why ppl would be flocking to her like say Amy Winehouse or some other foreign import with SKILLS


shrug But I like my shit-hop argument! I was going to put a 50 Cent picture next!

U spoiled all my fun! lol
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Reply #16 posted 05/29/07 8:19am

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Why lay on Kylie? There are PLENTY of US superstars that never made it outside of their home country.
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Reply #17 posted 05/29/07 10:20am

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Can we get over ourselves already. The US market is NOT needed anymore to make or break you. There are tons of UK/European acts that have sold more records worldwide, than the MEGA-stars of the USA. The thing now is YOURE dead if you cant appeal overseas, the tide has turned, hear in America you are lucky if you can sell 100,000 copies of a record, so you better take your ass overseas we they are definitely more loyal to music and artists.

Heres a few eamples of getting your following overseas

BON JOVI 150,000 million worldwide in sales almost 100 million is overseas.
GIRLS ALOUD 40 million in sales, NEVER even on US airwaves
a-HA thought they were a one hit wonder? sorry folks, 71 million sold, the million is USA

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #18 posted 05/29/07 10:20am

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Empress said:

Most people in the US and Canadian don't even know she exists. The radio played her one song to death (can't even remember the name of it now). I soon got tired of hearing it and seeing the video over and over again. Other than this one song from a few years ago, I agree that she's fairly irrelvant outside of her home country.



she is the second highest selling female artist in the UK and Europe behind a certain American.

She is a Gay Diva is most every major American City.
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Reply #19 posted 05/29/07 10:22am

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Ellie said:

Why lay on Kylie? There are PLENTY of US superstars that never made it outside of their home country.



and plenty that haven't even made in their own country.

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Reply #20 posted 05/29/07 10:55am

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ehuffnsd said:

Ellie said:

Why lay on Kylie? There are PLENTY of US superstars that never made it outside of their home country.



and plenty that haven't even made in their own country.

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Not to mention big selling stars in the US going to Europe first to build up their profiles before promoting themselves at home (hello Destiny's Child).
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Reply #21 posted 05/29/07 11:19am

Ottensen

Ellie said:

Why lay on Kylie? There are PLENTY of US superstars that never made it outside of their home country.


Thank you.

At what point will we let the arrogance go already? That's why we've squandered all of our goodwill throughout the world as it is, with the arrogant attitude that we're the hottest shit that everybody has to cow tow in order to be a "success". But by whose standards? Trust me, Kylie is doing fine. She has a level of success that she's probably more than satisfied with and the matter of 'breaking' the US market would simply be more a matter of vanity than anything else.

Honestly, the nerve of some people...confused
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Reply #22 posted 05/29/07 11:49am

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datdude said:

'Kylie is so irrelevant in the states'


apparently so is music confused
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Reply #23 posted 05/29/07 1:51pm

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datdude said:


but about the MUSIC the most complicated pop of the decade and an entire COUNTRY misses out?!


Not complicated- sophisticated. There is a difference. And yes, most of the country is missing out.
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Reply #24 posted 05/29/07 1:52pm

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GangstaFam said:

Moonbeam said:



I am an enormous Kylie fan and was born and raised in the US. She has not broken the US market totally because the US market is lame. Her music this decade is the best, most sophisticated pop to be released.

That would be Bjork.


Björk's music isn't pop music this decade. wink
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Reply #25 posted 05/29/07 3:22pm

datdude

[quote]She is a Gay Diva in most every major American City.[/quote]

this is explains it all as it relates to this board. didn't think about this. i will hush now. thanks to whomever provided that clarity
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Reply #26 posted 05/29/07 4:00pm

GangstaFam

Moonbeam said:

Björk's music isn't pop music this decade. wink

She thinks it is.
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Reply #27 posted 05/29/07 4:36pm

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lastdecember said:

Can we get over ourselves already. The US market is NOT needed anymore to make or break you. There are tons of UK/European acts that have sold more records worldwide, than the MEGA-stars of the USA. The thing now is YOURE dead if you cant appeal overseas, the tide has turned, hear in America you are lucky if you can sell 100,000 copies of a record, so you better take your ass overseas we they are definitely more loyal to music and artists.

Heres a few eamples of getting your following overseas

BON JOVI 150,000 million worldwide in sales almost 100 million is overseas.
GIRLS ALOUD 40 million in sales, NEVER even on US airwaves
a-HA thought they were a one hit wonder? sorry folks, 71 million sold, the million is USA



This is the perfect statement to end this thread. nod
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Reply #28 posted 05/29/07 5:18pm

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Reply #29 posted 05/29/07 5:18pm

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GangstaFam said:

Moonbeam said:

Björk's music isn't pop music this decade. wink

She thinks it is.


Kylie's had a better decade anyway. wink
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