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PrintableWas that really necessary? I'm not impressed at all. Dallas Austin should be ashamed. What a classless act. What is to be gained by putting that out there? I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. | |
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lastdecember said: asg said: I am sure its widespread it just doesnt get out
prime candidates paris lohan britney mariah madonna in her younger days nelly furtado the list can be endless and its easily possible!! The thing is, it will always be said of a female artist who works with a producer especially if her image is SEX. But funny how no one mentions everyone that Prince has worked with, and the fact that if they didnt give enough to Prince their CD's didnt get pushed, obvious examples Tamar and Rosie. I mean Prince was sleeping with Carmen, but did she seek him out, actually no he chased her. And its interesting that no one ever mentions what male artists do for their tracks and beats.  thank u!!Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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lastdecember said: Wait is Dallas friggin kidding me with that qoute that says "Shes not Ciara, Ciara goes in and gets her work done" CIARA? what work does she do? She doesnt write, she wouldnt know an instrument if it hit her on the head, and she would be NO ONE if Aaliyah hadnt been killed. Thank God Joss isnt CIARA, thats all we need is another Programmed Puppet RB female singer. And also Dallas, I guess you didnt do Xtina well, since she married some scrawny ass little white boy.
I like scrawny ass white(or black) boys. I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos | |
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Sorry but i have to defend the ladies in question here, and even the Paris's and others. Now i think the bigger issue here is that Dallas austin is taking this whole issue now and two is really sad that you have to air your shit out like that in public, truly a class-less act, but thats not a surprise from him. But we also have to remember that this isnt the first time Dallas has had issues with some females he has been producing, so maybe the issue isnt them Chasing him down, the issue is that he chases them down, has a relationship, then it doesnt work, so now of course the "woman" fucked for tracks, because that is the image that we have of what women do. Knowing the way Xtina and Joss are when they talk, dont expect Dallas's comments to just go out there and them to sit back and take them. There are so many Double Standards in this industry, and i know for a fact if an article like this came out and it was a woman like Christina or Mariah and they said something bad about a producer they worked with we would label them "bitches for doing it". "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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asg said:  this is a mess.. seems he's retaliating @ both women for what they did | |
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Thats why i don't like the fact that Janet wound up with Jermaine Dupree.... can you imagine him talking about the things he did to her if they were to ever break up  | |
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banks said: Thats why i don't like the fact that Janet wound up with Jermaine Dupree.... can you imagine him talking about the things he did to her if they were to ever break up
Speaking of Janet I’ve heard that she and JD’s relationship is under stress and I’ve heard she might be preggers (again). Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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lastdecember said: JackieBlue said: I thought Ciara penned a few songs on both albums? I dont consider anything she does on her records writing. Writing one line and then repeating it over and over isnt writing. Yes because we all know Nicole writes the deepest songs know to man. Loosen up my buttons, Stickwit u these are powerful lyrics | |
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So Madonna IS a Talentless Whore!! The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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qvgangsta18 said: lastdecember said: I dont consider anything she does on her records writing. Writing one line and then repeating it over and over isnt writing. Yes because we all know Nicole writes the deepest songs know to man. Loosen up my buttons, Stickwit u these are powerful lyrics At least she can sing, CIARA is why rb and its sales are in the toilet. Paris Hilton sounds better than Ciara. Also I never even brought Nicole up as a writer or a good writer, singing wise she is better than almost any female out there, but it seems you brought her up. [Edited 3/16/07 13:03pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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After watching the video, it seems that the reason why Dallas is bringing all this stuff up now is because it supposedly came back to bite him recently when Christina requested that he not show up at a Clive Davis party because of their history together.
It's funny that the last friend of Dallas that Christina had sex with (Jordy) ended up marrying her. 
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sextonseven said: After watching the video, it seems that the reason why Dallas is bringing all this stuff up now is because it supposedly came back to bite him recently when Christina requested that he not show up at a Clive Davis party because of their history together.
It's funny that the last friend of Dallas that Christina had sex with (Jordy) ended up marrying her.
spelling edit [Edited 3/16/07 13:38pm] And im sure his issue with Joss is because he was overlooked as a producer and Raphael Sadiq was chosen. He probably wanted a piece of Joss since Christina was now married he figured he could "push"himself on Joss. Maybe Dallas should realize that maybe they didnt want him to produce because they figured he couldnt cut it, maybe he should stick to selling crack/cocaine, he was good at that. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: qvgangsta18 said: Yes because we all know Nicole writes the deepest songs know to man. Loosen up my buttons, Stickwit u these are powerful lyrics At least she can sing, CIARA is why rb and its sales are in the toilet. Paris Hilton sounds better than Ciara. Also I never even brought Nicole up as a writer or a good writer, singing wise she is better than almost any female out there, but it seems you brought her up. [Edited 3/16/07 13:03pm] Please singing wise she ain't shit, your girl ain't shit and when her solo LP comes and it flops i will laugh at you on this board, Ciara is doing her her thing and her work ethic is incredible and her range sin't high but who cares, range is THE MOST OVERRATED PART ABOUT SINGING | |
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Wasn't Dallas married to Chilli from TLC ??? Youth is wasted on the young ..... | |
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I really dont understand why he feels the need to do this. Isnt he like 35 years old? He looks quite ridiculous talking about this interactions with a 19 year old and then early 20yo Christina.
I dont think anyone would have known about the party snub if he hadnt of brought it up and even still I doubt anyone would care. How does being snubbed at a party somehow equate publicly disclosing such exploits? I think Dallas is talented. I liked the fact that for the most part he stays low key. I like that his sound isnt immediately recognizable. So what if he doesnt have the notoriety of Timbaland or didnt get picked for Joss freakin Stone. He introduced himself to a whole new audience with the tracks he did for Natalie Cole and got quite a bit of acclaim for it. I cant imagine any woman wanting to work with him now. He wants to talk about b*tches f*ckin for tracks when he sounds like a b*tch crying over spilled milk. [Edited 3/16/07 13:55pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Etorres said: Wasn't Dallas married to Chilli from TLC ???
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just keep it onnn the down low | |
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WITH MY MPC I AM GONNA HAVE SEX WITH ALSO | |
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I see how it goes:
A woman like Karrine Steffans tells the world who she's fucked - its "liberating"; i.e., spot on Oprah's show, etc. She's "empowering women" A legitimate producer who has a long, long list of accomplishments on his music speaks out when a celeb who got famous singing on tracks HE produced "tells all" because she had him barred from a party (don't get it wrong, parties are where a lot of business connections are made in the biz) and HE's the bad guy? After she fucked five of his friends? GTFOH!!! It is NOT always the man's fault! Those hoes are hoes. Ciara may not be able to sing, but she obviously knows how to conduct BUSINESS. Poor little Christina - fucked five of Dallas's friends as well as Dallas and it got out. Boo-hoo-fucking-hoo. Poor little Joss Stone - fucked Novel then screwed him by taking his tracks to Raphael Saddiq, who she also fucked. I'm crying a river over here; crying laughing at the reactions of people on this thread who are finding out that these "media darlings' aren't so darling after all. Dallas's technique may have been tactless but his point was poignant. She wanted to play games; games were played. I bet before this is over, she will wish she had just STFU and dealt with whatever awkwardness was to come. | |
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qvgangsta18 said: lastdecember said: At least she can sing, CIARA is why rb and its sales are in the toilet. Paris Hilton sounds better than Ciara. Also I never even brought Nicole up as a writer or a good writer, singing wise she is better than almost any female out there, but it seems you brought her up. [Edited 3/16/07 13:03pm] Please singing wise she ain't shit, your girl ain't shit and when her solo LP comes and it flops i will laugh at you on this board, Ciara is doing her her thing and her work ethic is incredible and her range sin't high but who cares, range is THE MOST OVERRATED PART ABOUT SINGING I could care less about sales because at the end of the day she is paid, i could care less how a solo record does, is that u're measure of someones talent? sales? So everytime a PRINCE record flops, he sucks and doesnt have talent. As for Ciaras work ethic, does she tour? the only place i see her is on every magazine cover, so is she a model or a singer, maybe a good dancer but thats where i cut her off. As for Range in singing, true its overrated when you dont use it properly, Beyonce Great range, Bad singer. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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BlaqueKnight said: I see how it goes:
A woman like Karrine Steffans tells the world who she's fucked - its "liberating"; i.e., spot on Oprah's show, etc. She's "empowering women" A legitimate producer who has a long, long list of accomplishments on his music speaks out when a celeb who got famous singing on tracks HE produced "tells all" because she had him barred from a party (don't get it wrong, parties are where a lot of business connections are made in the biz) and HE's the bad guy? After she fucked five of his friends? GTFOH!!! It is NOT always the man's fault! Those hoes are hoes. Ciara may not be able to sing, but she obviously knows how to conduct BUSINESS. Poor little Christina - fucked five of Dallas's friends as well as Dallas and it got out. Boo-hoo-fucking-hoo. Poor little Joss Stone - fucked Novel then screwed him by taking his tracks to Raphael Saddiq, who she also fucked. I'm crying a river over here; crying laughing at the reactions of people on this thread who are finding out that these "media darlings' aren't so darling after all. Dallas's technique may have been tactless but his point was poignant. She wanted to play games; games were played. I bet before this is over, she will wish she had just STFU and dealt with whatever awkwardness was to come. Yo can u play an instrument cuz if you can,hook up with me and we produce and start beasting on these females, we wasting time posting on messageboards, we can make tracks that half publishing, and royalty rate of there LP's and fuck them also.Won't deal with stupid record labels | |
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lastdecember said: qvgangsta18 said: Please singing wise she ain't shit, your girl ain't shit and when her solo LP comes and it flops i will laugh at you on this board, Ciara is doing her her thing and her work ethic is incredible and her range sin't high but who cares, range is THE MOST OVERRATED PART ABOUT SINGING I could care less about sales because at the end of the day she is paid, i could care less how a solo record does, is that u're measure of someones talent? sales? So everytime a PRINCE record flops, he sucks and doesnt have talent. As for Ciaras work ethic, does she tour? the only place i see her is on every magazine cover, so is she a model or a singer, maybe a good dancer but thats where i cut her off. As for Range in singing, true its overrated when you dont use it properly, Beyonce Great range, Bad singer. Prince is a garbage artist, i don't come to this site for Prince he the most overrated artist ever, i just like the diversity of this section of the board | |
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Oh my...
Anyway, good to see you Blaque!    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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BlaqueKnight said: I see how it goes:
A woman like Karrine Steffans tells the world who she's fucked - its "liberating"; i.e., spot on Oprah's show, etc. She's "empowering women" A legitimate producer who has a long, long list of accomplishments on his music speaks out when a celeb who got famous singing on tracks HE produced "tells all" because she had him barred from a party (don't get it wrong, parties are where a lot of business connections are made in the biz) and HE's the bad guy? After she fucked five of his friends? GTFOH!!! It is NOT always the man's fault! Those hoes are hoes. Ciara may not be able to sing, but she obviously knows how to conduct BUSINESS. Poor little Christina - fucked five of Dallas's friends as well as Dallas and it got out. Boo-hoo-fucking-hoo. Poor little Joss Stone - fucked Novel then screwed him by taking his tracks to Raphael Saddiq, who she also fucked. I'm crying a river over here; crying laughing at the reactions of people on this thread who are finding out that these "media darlings' aren't so darling after all. Dallas's technique may have been tactless but his point was poignant. She wanted to play games; games were played. I bet before this is over, she will wish she had just STFU and dealt with whatever awkwardness was to come. Though thats true 90% of the time its the other way around. Also how do we know everything Dallas is saying is true? Why say it now, whats his motive? I mean just like he says they have motives, you know this guy has motives too and its not to derail them as publlic figures. Also when did Joss and Xtina become media darlings, have u seen a UK paper, Joss is the most hated woman in England, and Xtina was branded a bitch from day one in this country. No one brings up the fact how he was screwing Chili and cutting the others out of Money owed to them, thats Ok, thats good business. Lets look at this with other example and that would be THE GAME that wack ass phony rapper who has that new song about "Video Girls", basically he wrote this song about a video girl that basically he met at a party, she was doing an album and asked if he would help, he said yes, but then pushed himself on her, she said "No, just business" so now his ego is deflated and he comes out with this record and goes on some bulshit radio show and says he screwed her at a party. She comes back and says "Its interesting how a rapper who danced in gay clubs, now is this Gangsta guy, and he calls me phony" she then challenged him to a lie detector test to prove he never got anything from her and of course his punk ass backed down. But of course damage is done, because now when people see her, shes the chick that Game fucked. All im saying is there seems to be alot of this talk in the industry and most of it probably isnt even true, and usually the motive is $$ for falling careers. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: BlaqueKnight said: I see how it goes:
A woman like Karrine Steffans tells the world who she's fucked - its "liberating"; i.e., spot on Oprah's show, etc. She's "empowering women" A legitimate producer who has a long, long list of accomplishments on his music speaks out when a celeb who got famous singing on tracks HE produced "tells all" because she had him barred from a party (don't get it wrong, parties are where a lot of business connections are made in the biz) and HE's the bad guy? After she fucked five of his friends? GTFOH!!! It is NOT always the man's fault! Those hoes are hoes. Ciara may not be able to sing, but she obviously knows how to conduct BUSINESS. Poor little Christina - fucked five of Dallas's friends as well as Dallas and it got out. Boo-hoo-fucking-hoo. Poor little Joss Stone - fucked Novel then screwed him by taking his tracks to Raphael Saddiq, who she also fucked. I'm crying a river over here; crying laughing at the reactions of people on this thread who are finding out that these "media darlings' aren't so darling after all. Dallas's technique may have been tactless but his point was poignant. She wanted to play games; games were played. I bet before this is over, she will wish she had just STFU and dealt with whatever awkwardness was to come. Though thats true 90% of the time its the other way around. Also how do we know everything Dallas is saying is true? Why say it now, whats his motive? I mean just like he says they have motives, you know this guy has motives too and its not to derail them as publlic figures. Also when did Joss and Xtina become media darlings, have u seen a UK paper, Joss is the most hated woman in England, and Xtina was branded a bitch from day one in this country. No one brings up the fact how he was screwing Chili and cutting the others out of Money owed to them, thats Ok, thats good business. Lets look at this with other example and that would be THE GAME that wack ass phony rapper who has that new song about "Video Girls", basically he wrote this song about a video girl that basically he met at a party, she was doing an album and asked if he would help, he said yes, but then pushed himself on her, she said "No, just business" so now his ego is deflated and he comes out with this record and goes on some bulshit radio show and says he screwed her at a party. She comes back and says "Its interesting how a rapper who danced in gay clubs, now is this Gangsta guy, and he calls me phony" she then challenged him to a lie detector test to prove he never got anything from her and of course his punk ass backed down. But of course damage is done, because now when people see her, shes the chick that Game fucked. All im saying is there seems to be alot of this talk in the industry and most of it probably isnt even true, and usually the motive is $$ for falling careers. 
I agree w/ Blaque btw - if these broads are really doing all this, they get what they get. If you don't want your dirt out in the street, don't do dirt  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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All of these comments are INTERESTING 2 say the least. All I can add is these are the types of reasons I got OUT of the record so called business. 2 much B.S. and u NEVER where it's coming from....until it's 2 late. | |
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CalhounSq said: lastdecember said: Though thats true 90% of the time its the other way around. Also how do we know everything Dallas is saying is true? Why say it now, whats his motive? I mean just like he says they have motives, you know this guy has motives too and its not to derail them as publlic figures. Also when did Joss and Xtina become media darlings, have u seen a UK paper, Joss is the most hated woman in England, and Xtina was branded a bitch from day one in this country. No one brings up the fact how he was screwing Chili and cutting the others out of Money owed to them, thats Ok, thats good business. Lets look at this with other example and that would be THE GAME that wack ass phony rapper who has that new song about "Video Girls", basically he wrote this song about a video girl that basically he met at a party, she was doing an album and asked if he would help, he said yes, but then pushed himself on her, she said "No, just business" so now his ego is deflated and he comes out with this record and goes on some bulshit radio show and says he screwed her at a party. She comes back and says "Its interesting how a rapper who danced in gay clubs, now is this Gangsta guy, and he calls me phony" she then challenged him to a lie detector test to prove he never got anything from her and of course his punk ass backed down. But of course damage is done, because now when people see her, shes the chick that Game fucked. All im saying is there seems to be alot of this talk in the industry and most of it probably isnt even true, and usually the motive is $$ for falling careers.
I agree w/ Blaque btw - if these broads are really doing all this, they get what they get. If you don't want your dirt out in the street, don't do dirt Oh i agree with that point but lets not make it like Dallas didnt push up on Xtina, he wasnt sitting in the studio and xtina walked and seduced him for some tracks and then left his ass behind. Its called deflated EGO, if he wants to air his laundry out like that, hey its a free country, just dont be surprised when no one is calling you up to work with. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I lost respect for Dallas after he stole "Hit Em Up Style" from this singer (I forget her name but she had the same style of singing as that track and all her friends thought it was her when they heard it on the radio but alas, she had to tell them that it wasn't) that he was producing at the time. The singer didn't sue because she said she doesn't believe in lawsuits. Damn I forget her name.
That said, all he said is probably true. Not surprised. Justin aand Timbaland...? Hmmm..... [Edited 3/16/07 14:34pm] |
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CynicKill said: I lost respect for Dallas after he stole "Hit Em Up Style" from this singer (I forget her name but she had the same style of singing as that track and all her friends thought it was her when they heard it on the radio but alas, she had to tell them that it wasn't) that he was producing at the time. The singer didn't sue because she said she doesn't believe in lawsuits. Damn I forget her name.
That said, all he said is probably true. Not surprised. Justin aand Timbaland...? Hmmm..... [Edited 3/16/07 14:34pm] Blu Cantrell "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: CynicKill said: I lost respect for Dallas after he stole "Hit Em Up Style" from this singer (I forget her name but she had the same style of singing as that track and all her friends thought it was her when they heard it on the radio but alas, she had to tell them that it wasn't) that he was producing at the time. The singer didn't sue because she said she doesn't believe in lawsuits. Damn I forget her name.
That said, all he said is probably true. Not surprised. Justin aand Timbaland...? Hmmm..... [Edited 3/16/07 14:34pm] Blu Cantrell No Blu is who he ended up giving the track to. This other girl was Kina or Mia or something. Single named chick. [Edited 3/16/07 14:38pm] |
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