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PrintableTonyVanDam said: dseann said: I don't think a list needs to be provided here. If you haven't noticed this trend you are either real young or in an extreme state of denial. Rap music(Hip Hop since the 90's) has taken a turn for the worse. There are very few lyricists in the game today, and as far as I'm concerned the tracks have regressed steadily since the late 90's. The accompanying "music" to this genre sounds like it was produced in a grade 1 music class in the public school system. Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the music studios are cutting costs on production, and it is evident in the quality of tracks(or the lack thereof) in modern day rap music or as Vainandy terms it "SHIT HOP".  That's harsh.Harsh but true nontheless. | |
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TonyVanDam said: dseann said: Please explain how Whitney ruined R&B? I agree with most of your posts in this thread and others as we have similar tastes in music but, love or hate her for the "shit" she has done in her personal life, Whitney is the best female vocalist I have ever experienced and it pains me every time you refer to her as shitney. What do you have against her? VA's negative comments about Whitney is nothing compare to VoicesCarry. I hope you never read any of it. Honest!  
[Edited 3/15/07 17:41pm] VA explained his position to me and I understand his stance very well. Seeing where he is coming from on this one I would have to agree with him. I'll check out VoicesCarry's comments ignore your warnings. | |
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dseann said: TonyVanDam said: That's harsh.Harsh but true nontheless. BTW, the average hip-hop producer these days can only play THIS instrument:  | |
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Janfriend said: Lyric, are equal to, if not more important than, the sound behind it.
While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, I don't agree with this. Music doesn't have to have lyrics to be music. But lyrics do need a musical backdrop. As for me, I can enjoy a song with shit lyrics but a great musical backdrop. I can NOT enjoy a song with a poor musical backdrop, no matter how great the lyrics may be. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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TonyVanDam said: dseann said: Harsh but true nontheless. BTW, the average hip-hop producer these days can only play THIS instrument: instrument | |
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thedribbler said: vainandy said: This coming from someone who doesn't even know what gender people's names are? I've got rap and hip hop 12 Inches older than you....(the big black CDs with one song on them). . . [Edited 3/12/07 14:10pm] Who is "tony van dam"? Hip hop is unquestionably the dullest form of music. Hell no Country and Western is by far the dullest. Hip Hop has it's pleasant surprises and exceptions, Country and Western has no such saving graces. | |
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TonyVanDam said: Janfriend said: If you listened to more hip hop, you would know it comes in all tempos. You come across as someone who only likes really really fast music Hi Janfriend! 1. I can't believe this thread is still active.
2. Vainandy likes the real old-school hip-hop. We're talking The Egyptian Lover, Afrika Bambaataa-type hip-hop sound (READ: electro). oh, ok | |
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dseann said: thedribbler said: Who is "tony van dam"? Hip hop is unquestionably the dullest form of music. Hell no Country and Western is by far the dullest. Hip Hop has it's pleasant surprises and exceptions, Country and Western has no such saving graces. There's nothing dull about the Dixie Chicks | |
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Moonbeam said: Janfriend said: Lyric, are equal to, if not more important than, the sound behind it.
While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, I don't agree with this. Music doesn't have to have lyrics to be music. But lyrics do need a musical backdrop. As for me, I can enjoy a song with shit lyrics but a great musical backdrop. I can NOT enjoy a song with a poor musical backdrop, no matter how great the lyrics may be. I know music doesn't have to gave lyrics to be music. I'm a clasically-trained floutist. When talking about music and lyrics together. I'm partial to the story, not the background | |
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That is so strange. I don't think he is still alive, but I think he knew what was to come. I think he felt it inside spriritly. I really miss tupac. Him and Kurt Cobain...  Let's go down 2 the holy river,
If we drown then we'll be delivered. If we don't then we'll never see the light. If U die before U try, U'll have 2 come back and face the light. When U believe it, U got a good reason 2 cry. www.myspace.com/xxchina | |
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Janfriend said: vainandy said: If you weren't around in the beginning, then how do you know? I was around, heard the records, saw the movies, and read the magazine articles. As if I didn't? How would you know when I was around? You don't.  Oops, I misread your post. You said "It wasn't around in the very beginning". I thought you said "I wasn't around in the very beginning". Anyway, I don't know how you would have never heard the term "hip hop" until the 1990s unless you lived somewhere like Idaho or somewhere.
As far as you trying to prove that old school was called "rap", of course it was. However, it was also referred to as "hip hop" from time to time. You're right though, the word "hip hop" didn't become as well known as it is until the 1990s. That's when the genre itself became "shit hop". . . [Edited 3/16/07 8:42am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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TonyVanDam said: dseann said: Please explain how Whitney ruined R&B? I agree with most of your posts in this thread and others as we have similar tastes in music but, love or hate her for the "shit" she has done in her personal life, Whitney is the best female vocalist I have ever experienced and it pains me every time you refer to her as shitney. What do you have against her? VA's negative comments about Whitney is nothing compare to VoicesCarry. I hope you never read any of it. Honest!
[Edited 3/15/07 17:41pm] I can shit on Shitney worse than Voices Carry anytime, anyplace, ANYWHERE!!!! Tell Voices to bring it on! I challenge him to a dual! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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TonyVanDam said: dseann said: Harsh but true nontheless. BTW, the average hip-hop producer these days can only play THIS instrument: Such talent. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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dseann said: thedribbler said: Who is "tony van dam"? Hip hop is unquestionably the dullest form of music. Hell no Country and Western is by far the dullest. Hip Hop has it's pleasant surprises and exceptions, Country and Western has no such saving graces. I can deal with country before I can deal with shit hop. Country may be boring as hell but at least they play instruments. Also, country stays on it's own stations and charts and has never been a threat to good funk and R&B. When record companies and radio stations saw how cheap shit hop was, that's all they played and killed everything else off. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I can deal with country before I can deal with shit hop. Country may be boring as hell but at least they play instruments. Also, country stays on it's own stations and charts and has never been a threat to good funk and R&B. When record companies and radio stations saw how cheap shit hop was, that's all they played and killed everything else off. The man speaketh the truth! | |
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Janfriend said: dseann said: Hell no Country and Western is by far the dullest. Hip Hop has it's pleasant surprises and exceptions, Country and Western has no such saving graces. There's nothing dull about the Dixie Chicks Speak for yourself honey. | |
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Janfriend said: Moonbeam said: While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, I don't agree with this. Music doesn't have to have lyrics to be music. But lyrics do need a musical backdrop. As for me, I can enjoy a song with shit lyrics but a great musical backdrop. I can NOT enjoy a song with a poor musical backdrop, no matter how great the lyrics may be. I know music doesn't have to gave lyrics to be music. I'm a clasically-trained floutist. When talking about music and lyrics together. I'm partial to the story, not the background I guess it's a matter of what we get out of music, then. I've been thinking about that a lot, actually. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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