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Reply #30 posted 10/24/06 1:43pm

TotalAlisa

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people prejudge the album before they hear it... and because they dislike janet... they wont even give her music a chance... even if it sounds really good...

when someone already sets in their mind they hate the album before they hear it... they will mostly likely feel the same way... even after hearing the album...

thats why i dont care about what those JANET JACKSON haters have to say... they dont count... because of course they wont like janet's music.... they HATE her...
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Reply #31 posted 10/24/06 2:01pm

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i haven't got it yet. i like "so excited" though
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Reply #32 posted 10/24/06 2:25pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Moonbeam said:



talk to the hand Fairweather!


No, a smart consumer.
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Nope, fairweather. razz
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Reply #33 posted 10/24/06 2:30pm

wonder505

TotalAlisa said:

people prejudge the album before they hear it... and because they dislike janet... they wont even give her music a chance... even if it sounds really good...

when someone already sets in their mind they hate the album before they hear it... they will mostly likely feel the same way... even after hearing the album...

thats why i dont care about what those JANET JACKSON haters have to say... they dont count... because of course they wont like janet's music.... they HATE her...


[snip-sos] are you that fanatical that you can't believe that someone could actually not like a janet CD because the CD just simply does not sound good to their ears?

what the fuck! is janet the end all and be all of music that she can't do no wrong EVER?

Some people love 20 YO, some people like it, some people think its okay, some people hate it.

If you love it, GOOD! Play the shit out of it, enjoy it, have fun and be mature enough to understand that people do not share the same opinion as you.
[Edited 10/24/06 14:32pm]
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Reply #34 posted 10/24/06 4:55pm

sallysassalot

badujunkie said:

sosgemini said:




nod

i like this album...a lot better then Damita Jo...but your right, she needs to show passion for a project in order for folks to be passionate about buying the thing.


what happened to the days when a good album was a good album and the artist didn't have to whore it out on every fucking late night talk show to prove it? i'm glad you like the album. shows you have taste. are we in agreement that "take care" and "love 2 love" are fucking FANTASTIC?

did those days ever exist? seems to me that for all my music listening days (and movie watching and book reading, etc.), whenever an artist had a new project out they made the rounds.

is this really a new concept to you?
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Reply #35 posted 10/24/06 6:05pm

mancabdriver

seriously "enjoy" is the best thing janet has done in a LONG time, and "take care" aaahhhh its so good. So i personally think its Janet's best album since TVR.

But what has ruined the CD was all the hype that JD had given it, he put people off. Not many CD's live up to the hype.....
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Reply #36 posted 10/24/06 6:10pm

iconsweat

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But what has ruined the CD was all the hype that JD had given it, he put people off. Not many CD's live up to the hype.....


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Reply #37 posted 10/24/06 6:23pm

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wonder505 said:

TotalAlisa said:

people prejudge the album before they hear it... and because they dislike janet... they wont even give her music a chance... even if it sounds really good...

when someone already sets in their mind they hate the album before they hear it... they will mostly likely feel the same way... even after hearing the album...

thats why i dont care about what those JANET JACKSON haters have to say... they dont count... because of course they wont like janet's music.... they HATE her...


[snip-sos] are you that fanatical that you can't believe that someone could actually not like a janet CD because the CD just simply does not sound good to their ears?

what the fuck! is janet the end all and be all of music that she can't do no wrong EVER?

Some people love 20 YO, some people like it, some people think its okay, some people hate it.

If you love it, GOOD! Play the shit out of it, enjoy it, have fun and be mature enough to understand that people do not share the same opinion as you.
[Edited 10/24/06 14:32pm]

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY POST THEN IGNORE THEM....
AND STOP BEING A STALKER....
SINCE YOU HAVE MADE IT CLEAR YOU HATE THE ALBUM AND JANET THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHER WAISTING YOUR BREATH TO TALK ABOUT HER...
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Reply #38 posted 10/24/06 6:44pm

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My final reply to 20 Y.O. A few songs on it are good but overall
it is not what you come to expect from a typical janet jackson
cd. Maybe jermaine dupri's influence on it has a lot to do with it.
That said it is still better than beyonce's lame b-day cd.
LeToya's cd is a good debut cd for the former destiny child's member
and it trumps both beyonce b-day and janet's 20 y.o.
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Reply #39 posted 10/24/06 6:46pm

wonder505

TotalAlisa said:

wonder505 said:



[snip-sos] are you that fanatical that you can't believe that someone could actually not like a janet CD because the CD just simply does not sound good to their ears?

what the fuck! is janet the end all and be all of music that she can't do no wrong EVER?

Some people love 20 YO, some people like it, some people think its okay, some people hate it.

If you love it, GOOD! Play the shit out of it, enjoy it, have fun and be mature enough to understand that people do not share the same opinion as you.
[Edited 10/24/06 14:32pm]

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY POST THEN IGNORE THEM....
AND STOP BEING A STALKER....
SINCE YOU HAVE MADE IT CLEAR YOU HATE THE ALBUM AND JANET THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHER WAISTING YOUR BREATH TO TALK ABOUT HER...


Where did I ever state that I hate janet? Go ahead, prove it, copy and paste right here where I stated that I hate janet and I will go back and paste the many positive posts I wrote about janet's previous work (except Damito Jo, ofcourse). I even defended All For U. which I thought was a great CD, but I digress.

The point is that some janet fans keep coming up with all kind of reasons why people don't like the CD and seem to have a hard time believing that people listened to 20 YO simply did not find it appealing.
[Edited 10/24/06 18:47pm]
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Reply #40 posted 10/24/06 6:50pm

glt

Hi everybody,
i like 20yrs. old so far.
I got it today .
and I like it to track 6.When I hear the whole cd
i think It's good
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Reply #41 posted 10/24/06 7:33pm

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iconsweat said:

Ill tell you this. I think it's better than the Janet 1993 release. That shit was so overblown. Hell Damita Jo was better than Janet. Janet has the type of catelogue enough now to have some sleeper hits and some crap. Im saying Janet was crap. Again, Thats The Way Love Goes, and If were the best things on Janet (maybe Throb too). The other shit Because of Love etc was nothing great trust me. At least 20 YO is more ocnsistent vibe and feel overall. 20 YO is a good Janet cvd period. Fuck what ya heard...or "haven't heard" as Badujunkie said.

lol I don't hate 20 Y.O. (although I do find it rather lackluster). That being said, "Because of Love," "Where Are You Now," "Whoops Now," and "Any Time, Any Place" completely outclass anything on the new record IMO.
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Reply #42 posted 10/24/06 7:47pm

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The new album is pretty much what I expected but better....her trying to recapture the R&B audience by using rappers and "hot" producer, Jermaine Dupri. I think she'll learn her lesson and will probably stay low for a while. She might branch out again like she did with "Damita Jo" (which if edited to include some songs, exclude ohters, would be an excellent disc). She'll probably find a producer that she really clicks with. Not sure if JImmy and Terry will be along for the ride but with tracks like "Enjoy" and "Take Care", I wouldn't mind if they were.
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Reply #43 posted 10/24/06 7:58pm

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I hate 20 YO and Im hurt to say it because I love Janet J and I always buy her albums no matter if I only heard 1 song. I honestly thought that I would ADORE her album, hell I was one of the Damito Jo crusaders but this album is goin in the trash, the only songs worth repeating are "Enjoy" and "Take Care". The album doesnt sound like Janet Jackson at all, it just sounds like yet another JD influenced artist trying to get a chunk of that dirty south sound. Im over it and I know theres a whole bunch of others over it too. All Ive heard is "Janets album is GARBAGE"!! So far, everyone I know who has the album... conceeds. Sorry but the album sux, it's not the record company not supporting her or MTV or VH1 banning her...Ive seen her videos on those channels, its her loyal eager fans outside of Hip Hop/R&B lovers (which I happen to be myself but I can still feel other types of music) are severly disappointed and the best kind of marketing of word of mouth and this shows it.
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Reply #44 posted 10/24/06 9:08pm

CinisterCee

After a few weeks with 20 Y.O. , I think I like Damita Jo more, but it was a close call.
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Reply #45 posted 10/24/06 9:19pm

iconsweat

AlexdeParis said:

iconsweat said:

Ill tell you this. I think it's better than the Janet 1993 release. That shit was so overblown. Hell Damita Jo was better than Janet. Janet has the type of catelogue enough now to have some sleeper hits and some crap. Im saying Janet was crap. Again, Thats The Way Love Goes, and If were the best things on Janet (maybe Throb too). The other shit Because of Love etc was nothing great trust me. At least 20 YO is more ocnsistent vibe and feel overall. 20 YO is a good Janet cvd period. Fuck what ya heard...or "haven't heard" as Badujunkie said.

lol I don't hate 20 Y.O. (although I do find it rather lackluster). That being said, "Because of Love," "Where Are You Now," "Whoops Now," and "Any Time, Any Place" completely outclass anything on the new record IMO.


Those songs save 2 are zzzzz. And none of them are better than With U
[Edited 10/24/06 21:21pm]
"when Im in those arms of yours I'm so gone"-With U/Janet
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Reply #46 posted 10/24/06 10:37pm

CHIC0

"come back to me, i'm beggin' you please....."




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Reply #47 posted 10/24/06 10:50pm

sallysassalot

CHIC0 said:

"come back to me, i'm beggin' you please....."





i haven't seen this album cover in ANY stores. that couldn't have helped sales much.
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Reply #48 posted 10/24/06 10:54pm

CinisterCee

sallysassalot said:

CHIC0 said:

"come back to me, i'm beggin' you please....."





i haven't seen this album cover in ANY stores. that couldn't have helped sales much.


Only those fan covers in the US huh, ill
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Reply #49 posted 10/24/06 11:02pm

sallysassalot

CinisterCee said:

sallysassalot said:


i haven't seen this album cover in ANY stores. that couldn't have helped sales much.


Only those fan covers in the US huh, ill

oh they're dreadful. there is a reason people get paid good money to manage the art design.
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Reply #50 posted 10/24/06 11:27pm

CHIC0

sallysassalot said:

CHIC0 said:

"come back to me, i'm beggin' you please....."





i haven't seen this album cover in ANY stores. that couldn't have helped sales much.


i bought one of the others. but didn't open it. then when i found this one i returned the other. lol
it was the one being promoted; and then it seemed as if none of the stores were carrying it. i think it's only the cover for the cd/dvd edition. a bet a lot of people were confused.
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Reply #51 posted 10/24/06 11:35pm

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man is that sucka airbrushed!!!

The lines of hear teeth disappear halfway down.

freaky
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Reply #52 posted 10/25/06 12:49am

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lazycrockett said:

man is that sucka airbrushed!!!

The lines of hear teeth disappear halfway down.

freaky



Crap cover. What she should have done is put shots of her cleavage from the last two decades on the front cover, and then shots of her belly on the back. Kind of a postmodern joke. wink lol

Anyway, where is it on Billboard this week?
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Reply #53 posted 10/25/06 12:52am

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Shapeshifter said:

lazycrockett said:

man is that sucka airbrushed!!!

The lines of hear teeth disappear halfway down.

freaky



Crap cover. What she should have done is put shots of her cleavage from the last two decades on the front cover, and then shots of her belly on the back. Kind of a postmodern joke. wink lol
[Edited 10/25/06 0:49am]


having just read your comment and looked at the picture again she looks like a thin star jones.
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Reply #54 posted 10/25/06 2:41am

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CinisterCee said:

sallysassalot said:


i haven't seen this album cover in ANY stores. that couldn't have helped sales much.


Only those fan covers in the US huh, ill


You can only get that cover with the deluxe edition....wonder why?
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Reply #55 posted 10/25/06 3:23am

Shapeshifter

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lazycrockett said:

Shapeshifter said:




Crap cover. What she should have done is put shots of her cleavage from the last two decades on the front cover, and then shots of her belly on the back. Kind of a postmodern joke. wink lol
[Edited 10/25/06 0:49am]


having just read your comment and looked at the picture again she looks like a thin star jones.



Nah, she just looks like a thin Janet Jackson. lol
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Reply #56 posted 10/25/06 6:14am

Shapeshifter

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badujunkie said:

Here you go finger flipped off

You need a talking to no no no!

Now PLEASE stfu

You haven't heard the fuckin album anyway

Now suck this booty!

While I smoke this blunt

Before I put this on ya blackeye

--BADUJUNKIE lol
[Edited 10/23/06 20:57pm]



Well, take this and party. A truly DREADFUL review of 20 Yo-Yos:

Review: Janet's 20 YO - do not buy!
14 Comments By xolondon on 9.25.2006 at 10:18 PM.



Before I unleash brutal honesty about the new Janet Jackson CD 20 YO, you might want to refer to my review of Damita Jo, Janet's weak 2004 album, on which I thought she'd reached rock bottom. I am here to tell you that Miss Jackson has indeed reached rock bottom and continues to dig. 20 YO is flaming piece of shit. Let's look at fact and fiction...

Fallacy: Jan has proclaimed this album a celebration of her 20 years of emancipated music, a celebration of her past success. Caca! There is virtually nothing about this album that sounds like the Janet Jackson that we know. Yes, maybe she looks back as far as the sunburst-nipped Damita Jo years (2004), but that's as far as she goes. This could pass for an album by Ashanti or Mya.

Truth: Jan still likes to sing about jerking off ("Take Care"), opening "my spot for you, anytime you want me to" (on the excremental "So Excited"), or this gem "You know it makes the you-know-what come out." Eww. The lyrics may not contain any penis-in-mouth scenes, but God knows she nibbled on her lil dog Jermaine's weenis while doing vocals for the CD. She sounds strangely weak on many of the songs, sort of scratchy.

Fallacy: This is a dance record. Please! Can you dance to "So Excited" - or would you want to? There is no "Together Again" or even an "All Nite". This is music for 90's throwbacks who like to bounce their cars while attending Freaknik (I hope that is not offensive - I don't mean it to be. Not everyone at Freaknik would fit that stereotype).

Truth: The cover could be worse, but the overall artwork is pathetic. Never has someone been so Photoshopped and that's saying a lot, coming from a Madge fan (only Mariah Scarey can out-do Janet in the airblasting). The logo looks amateur and the pictures are neither thematic or iconic.

Fallacy: The album is 100% turd. It's not. There are two standout tracks that prove she could've pulled off her own rejuventation (a la Mariah and Madge). The first is the ebullient "Enjoy" (watch the suits whisk in to make that a single before Christmas) - a track so happy it has children doing la la la las at the end. The ballad "Take Care," complete with fingersnaps, revisits the oceanic synths of "Come Back To Me." One of the Jermaine tracks ("Do It 2 Me") is okay, if only because it's built on a great sample. Tellingly, one of the best songs, "Days Go By" is not even on the album! It's available only on the Japanese version of the CD. Thanks for nothing, slut!

Truth: The album has more of her trademark interludes. Aside from the usual use of falling rain, Janet is once again yukking it up backstage with her posse, specifically someone named Lynette. Gee thanks, but these inside jokes are not so interesting, Janita.

Truth: There are rapper features all over the album. From the already trashed Nelly and Khia collabs, to several other songs with raps. The nadir is the truly horrid "Show Me" which is frequently interrupted by some female rapper whinging, "How bad do u want it?" Press. Delete. Now. In 1993, Chuck D did a truth-telling rap on her majestic "New Agenda." The days of chilling with Kathleen Battle and the brilliant Q-Tip are long gone.

You can just hear Jermaine Dupree sitting in some airtight Hotlanta control booth, dripping in diamond studs, dialing Janet on her cell to leave her a message:



Jan, this shit is affecting me. I feel like a hot li'l bitch over here! No one can hate on this CD, baby. I'm up here in my seat bouncing to the beat... Hellz yeah!


20YO is the sound of a midlife crisis. Was Janet even present for most of production? Presumably, she was either molesting candied yams (it's for a part!) or slamming herself at the gym. It's a shameless bid for a young urban market, but does Janet really think she can go up against hot young pussy like Cassie (ed. note: sorry for that reference, Cassie, but you lost me when you feigned disgust /offense that people believe your single is about giving head. At least own your inner freak!). It should be noted that all the songs I like on 20 YO do not include any credit for Jermaine Dupree. Bring back Rene Elizondo now!

Janet: there was once a time when you owned the top of the pop charts and ruled as a princess in the homes of black America. You know, the normal Jackson [cough] who cared about racism, sexism, homophobia, AIDS, war and all the noise coming out at us from the TV. Now you contribute to that noise. It took you 20 years, but you've pissed your credibilty away.

Now I know there are some readers who will disagree about this album. Some very young readers in particular. I ask you to go back and compare this album to Janet's output from 1986 - 1997 and then we'll talk. Stay tuned for a post in which I rewrite history and present a Janet album that doesn't exist...

http://xolondon.blogspot....t-buy.html
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Reply #57 posted 10/25/06 6:49am

Graycap23

Shapeshifter said:

Some very young readers in particular. I ask you to go back and compare this album to Janet's output from 1986 - 1997 and then we'll talk. Stay tuned for a post in which I rewrite history and present a Janet album that doesn't exist...

http://xolondon.blogspot....t-buy.html




On P O I N T!
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Reply #58 posted 10/25/06 6:53am

Shapeshifter

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Graycap23 said:

Shapeshifter said:

Some very young readers in particular. I ask you to go back and compare this album to Janet's output from 1986 - 1997 and then we'll talk. Stay tuned for a post in which I rewrite history and present a Janet album that doesn't exist...

http://xolondon.blogspot....t-buy.html




On P O I N T!



I was going to say that the cover was particularly dreadful. Like something the creative director of No Limit dreamt up and did on his lunch break. lol
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Reply #59 posted 10/25/06 6:57am

SoulAlive

Shapeshifter said:

badujunkie said:

Here you go finger flipped off

You need a talking to no no no!

Now PLEASE stfu

You haven't heard the fuckin album anyway

Now suck this booty!

While I smoke this blunt

Before I put this on ya blackeye

--BADUJUNKIE lol
[Edited 10/23/06 20:57pm]



Well, take this and party. A truly DREADFUL review of 20 Yo-Yos:

Review: Janet's 20 YO - do not buy!
14 Comments By xolondon on 9.25.2006 at 10:18 PM.



Before I unleash brutal honesty about the new Janet Jackson CD 20 YO, you might want to refer to my review of Damita Jo, Janet's weak 2004 album, on which I thought she'd reached rock bottom. I am here to tell you that Miss Jackson has indeed reached rock bottom and continues to dig. 20 YO is flaming piece of shit. Let's look at fact and fiction...

Fallacy: Jan has proclaimed this album a celebration of her 20 years of emancipated music, a celebration of her past success. Caca! There is virtually nothing about this album that sounds like the Janet Jackson that we know. Yes, maybe she looks back as far as the sunburst-nipped Damita Jo years (2004), but that's as far as she goes. This could pass for an album by Ashanti or Mya.

Truth: Jan still likes to sing about jerking off ("Take Care"), opening "my spot for you, anytime you want me to" (on the excremental "So Excited"), or this gem "You know it makes the you-know-what come out." Eww. The lyrics may not contain any penis-in-mouth scenes, but God knows she nibbled on her lil dog Jermaine's weenis while doing vocals for the CD. She sounds strangely weak on many of the songs, sort of scratchy.

Fallacy: This is a dance record. Please! Can you dance to "So Excited" - or would you want to? There is no "Together Again" or even an "All Nite". This is music for 90's throwbacks who like to bounce their cars while attending Freaknik (I hope that is not offensive - I don't mean it to be. Not everyone at Freaknik would fit that stereotype).

Truth: The cover could be worse, but the overall artwork is pathetic. Never has someone been so Photoshopped and that's saying a lot, coming from a Madge fan (only Mariah Scarey can out-do Janet in the airblasting). The logo looks amateur and the pictures are neither thematic or iconic.

Fallacy: The album is 100% turd. It's not. There are two standout tracks that prove she could've pulled off her own rejuventation (a la Mariah and Madge). The first is the ebullient "Enjoy" (watch the suits whisk in to make that a single before Christmas) - a track so happy it has children doing la la la las at the end. The ballad "Take Care," complete with fingersnaps, revisits the oceanic synths of "Come Back To Me." One of the Jermaine tracks ("Do It 2 Me") is okay, if only because it's built on a great sample. Tellingly, one of the best songs, "Days Go By" is not even on the album! It's available only on the Japanese version of the CD. Thanks for nothing, slut!

Truth: The album has more of her trademark interludes. Aside from the usual use of falling rain, Janet is once again yukking it up backstage with her posse, specifically someone named Lynette. Gee thanks, but these inside jokes are not so interesting, Janita.

Truth: There are rapper features all over the album. From the already trashed Nelly and Khia collabs, to several other songs with raps. The nadir is the truly horrid "Show Me" which is frequently interrupted by some female rapper whinging, "How bad do u want it?" Press. Delete. Now. In 1993, Chuck D did a truth-telling rap on her majestic "New Agenda." The days of chilling with Kathleen Battle and the brilliant Q-Tip are long gone.

You can just hear Jermaine Dupree sitting in some airtight Hotlanta control booth, dripping in diamond studs, dialing Janet on her cell to leave her a message:



Jan, this shit is affecting me. I feel like a hot li'l bitch over here! No one can hate on this CD, baby. I'm up here in my seat bouncing to the beat... Hellz yeah!


20YO is the sound of a midlife crisis. Was Janet even present for most of production? Presumably, she was either molesting candied yams (it's for a part!) or slamming herself at the gym. It's a shameless bid for a young urban market, but does Janet really think she can go up against hot young pussy like Cassie (ed. note: sorry for that reference, Cassie, but you lost me when you feigned disgust /offense that people believe your single is about giving head. At least own your inner freak!). It should be noted that all the songs I like on 20 YO do not include any credit for Jermaine Dupree. Bring back Rene Elizondo now!

Janet: there was once a time when you owned the top of the pop charts and ruled as a princess in the homes of black America. You know, the normal Jackson [cough] who cared about racism, sexism, homophobia, AIDS, war and all the noise coming out at us from the TV. Now you contribute to that noise. It took you 20 years, but you've pissed your credibilty away.

Now I know there are some readers who will disagree about this album. Some very young readers in particular. I ask you to go back and compare this album to Janet's output from 1986 - 1997 and then we'll talk. Stay tuned for a post in which I rewrite history and present a Janet album that doesn't exist...

http://xolondon.blogspot....t-buy.html



OUCH!! That is a scathing review!
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