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Reply #60 posted 10/18/06 4:54am

WildStyle

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:



no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.

not to be a stick in the mud,
but its not "wrong" cause its my opinion
whether you agree with or not is irrelevent

if its not believeable its not preferable,
as a colleague above me said
the main problem is Jackson is not being sincere with his music.
As a complete comparison between History And Invinicble,
i choose History, because its a more complete album, and its something i could connect with him...

Invincible could be easily Justin Timberlakes Album than Michael Jacksons,
History at least spawn a few great songs like Stranger in Moscow, TDCAU, Scream
showing the world through his perspective,
majority were written by him, produced by him,
so his labor went into the work,
Its easy to hire a bunch of producers, to make you a hit album,
its totally something else when your doing it by yourself
playing all the instruments writing the songs, YOU wanna sing,

thats why i respect Prince so much more than Michael, Cause he does what he wants, and doesn't give a flying fuck what the fans think,
Michael is too concerned with being the king of pop,
instead of making music how he envisions it, if he evens envisions it anymore,
if he feels angry songs, let him do it, if he feels love songs let him do it,
but he has to FEEL it, the work suffers when an artist isn't personally connected with the music, on a love basis,
Nobodyy wants the King Of Pop anymore,
the man in the mirrors face has been smashed to the ground...
If Michael needs to record something thats his personally,
or something he connects with personally, not because its possibly onna generate a hit.
ive said this before, a real artist doesn't care about making hits
it helps, but it isn't their main motive
its just about making music they enjoy,
if the radio don't like it
fuck it

never kow tow to the jukebox with a heart beat


I think Mike has always been torn between the two. You gotta remember he came outta Motown. That's where he learned the business. All they cared about was hits, hits, hits. I think he tries to have a balance of the straight "I need a hit" songs, and the straight artistic expression songs on his albums. The only time I saw that as being a problem was on Invincible.
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Reply #61 posted 10/18/06 10:07am

CinisterCee

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you guys,that tracklist is 100% fake lol

I was just playing around.But unfortunately,that's probably exactly the type of album he's gonna make neutral


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Reply #62 posted 10/18/06 10:51am

whatsgoingon

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:



no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.

not to be a stick in the mud,
but its not "wrong" cause its my opinion
whether you agree with or not is irrelevent

if its not believeable its not preferable,
as a colleague above me said
the main problem is Jackson is not being sincere with his music.
As a complete comparison between History And Invinicble,
i choose History, because its a more complete album, and its something i could connect with him...

Invincible could be easily Justin Timberlakes Album than Michael Jacksons,
History at least spawn a few great songs like Stranger in Moscow, TDCAU, Scream
showing the world through his perspective,
majority were written by him, produced by him,
so his labor went into the work,
Its easy to hire a bunch of producers, to make you a hit album,
its totally something else when your doing it by yourself
playing all the instruments writing the songs, YOU wanna sing,

thats why i respect Prince so much more than Michael, Cause he does what he wants, and doesn't give a flying fuck what the fans think,
Michael is too concerned with being the king of pop,
instead of making music how he envisions it, if he evens envisions it anymore,
if he feels angry songs, let him do it, if he feels love songs let him do it,
but he has to FEEL it, the work suffers when an artist isn't personally connected with the music, on a love basis,
Nobodyy wants the King Of Pop anymore,
the man in the mirrors face has been smashed to the ground...
If Michael needs to record something thats his personally,
or something he connects with personally, not because its possibly onna generate a hit.
ive said this before, a real artist doesn't care about making hits
it helps, but it isn't their main motive
its just about making music they enjoy,
if the radio don't like it
fuck it

never kow tow to the jukebox with a heart beat


Agree. He sounded more sincere as a 14 yr old than he did age 40....It didn't matter that he didn't write or produce the songs back then and that many of his songs were cover visions. 13 yr old Michael singing covers like 'La, La La means I love you', 'You've got a friend', 'ain't no sunshine', 'Stand', 'People make the world go around' etc sounds so much more sincere and deep than 'Earth Song' or 'Black and white'.
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Reply #63 posted 10/18/06 2:23pm

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We'll just have to see in 2007. I think he'll go a different direction. He's learned his lesson throughout the years. At least he's doing something because he could have easily went into hiding but that's not what he's doing. Hell, even if the LP doesn't come out next year, I'll have the Silver Anniversary of Thriller and 20th Anniversary of BAD releases to hold me over LOL
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #64 posted 10/18/06 4:13pm

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i wish MJ never got all that plastic surgery.....

but anyways... Im always excited to hear new MJ music
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Reply #65 posted 10/18/06 4:39pm

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who cares
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Reply #66 posted 10/18/06 8:47pm

WildStyle

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Lil' teaser from the Access Hollywood interview...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...7aY1nKzra4
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Reply #67 posted 10/18/06 9:23pm

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you know.... that beat on that teaser was kinda hott...
if thats something from the session
mmmm maybe he might generate something good this time...
[Edited 10/18/06 21:24pm]
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With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
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Reply #68 posted 10/19/06 1:35am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

you know.... that beat on that teaser was kinda hott...
if thats something from the session
mmmm maybe he might generate something good this time...
[Edited 10/18/06 21:24pm]


That's what I thought. I was expecting the total opposite of the music in that preview. I was thinking he might try and come with some wack lil jon sounding beat or something. This on the other hand is really cool. But who even knows?... that could be just a random bit of music they picked for the teaser.
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Reply #69 posted 10/19/06 1:56am

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Tessa said:

EmbattledWarrior said:

it shouldn't be about album sales


it is to him. and his fans.


This is so true. We really have no appreciation for his music at all. It's purely about how many albums he can sell.
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Reply #70 posted 10/19/06 2:50am

EmbattledWarri
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WildStyle said:

EmbattledWarrior said:

you know.... that beat on that teaser was kinda hott...
if thats something from the session
mmmm maybe he might generate something good this time...
[Edited 10/18/06 21:24pm]


That's what I thought. I was expecting the total opposite of the music in that preview. I was thinking he might try and come with some wack lil jon sounding beat or something. This on the other hand is really cool. But who even knows?... that could be just a random bit of music they picked for the teaser.

you might be right, if that was actually a song, they would of kept it under wraps...
but mmm that is a nice beat... tooo nice to let it go to a interview segment
if thats the type of stuff he might be generating, i might kick the dust out of my old fan club card, and sign back up...

maybe...
its all on him tho
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #71 posted 10/19/06 2:53am

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Oh God, he looks so smug in that clip.
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Reply #72 posted 10/19/06 2:56am

MikeMatronik

WildStyle said:

Lil' teaser from the Access Hollywood interview...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...7aY1nKzra4


Thanks so much for showing this clip!
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I loved to see MJ. He looked happy and stable!
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Reply #73 posted 10/19/06 2:57am

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Ellie said:

Oh God, he looks so smug in that clip.


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Reply #74 posted 10/19/06 2:59am

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It's that little side smile he keeps doing. He just looks really pleased with himself for some reason. Maybe it's just me.
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Reply #75 posted 10/19/06 3:00am

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Ellie said:

It's that little side smile he keeps doing. He just looks really pleased with himself for some reason. Maybe it's just me.


Or his dodgy top lip.
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Reply #76 posted 10/19/06 3:00am

MikeMatronik

Ellie said:

It's that little side smile he keeps doing. He just looks really pleased with himself for some reason. Maybe it's just me.


He's in love with Fergie! cool
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Reply #77 posted 10/19/06 3:06am

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Cloudbuster said:

Ellie said:

It's that little side smile he keeps doing. He just looks really pleased with himself for some reason. Maybe it's just me.


Or his dodgy top lip.

does he still have that lip thing? lol
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #78 posted 10/19/06 3:08am

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MikeMatronik said:



He's in love with Fergie! cool

hmm
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Reply #79 posted 10/19/06 3:09am

MikeMatronik

Ellie said:

MikeMatronik said:



He's in love with Fergie! cool

hmm


it's a joke... confused

DUHH!
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Reply #80 posted 10/19/06 3:10am

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It was just the imagery of them together ill
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Reply #81 posted 10/19/06 3:10am

MikeMatronik

Ellie said:

It was just the imagery of them together ill


I know...she's gross! confused
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Reply #82 posted 10/19/06 3:12am

Ellie

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Yeah, he could do with someone a little more classy. Like Lil Kim.
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Reply #83 posted 10/19/06 3:15am

MikeMatronik

Ellie said:

Yeah, he could do with someone a little more classy. Like Lil Kim.


yep----- razz
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Reply #84 posted 10/19/06 3:25am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Cloudbuster said:

Or his dodgy top lip.


does he still have that lip thing? lol


It's not as bad as it was, but it still doesn't lift properly.
What the hell happened to it? hmm
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Reply #85 posted 10/19/06 3:26am

DarlingDiana

Michael is a smart man, or Raymone is a smart woman, either way, because this interview is a perfect way for MJ to get back in the public eye. No trial talk, no bullshit, just MJ talking about new music. It's a major teaser. November 2, he's going to lure everyone in and make them go crazy waiting for the new album. And I doubt Michael would do something like this if he wasn't atleast close to getting the album finished. There will not be any delays, he's cut all ties with 2 seas, he's got a fresh, new team that will not let him bullshit his way through 2-3 years of promises and exuses. The album will be out next year.... and it will be off the hook!
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Reply #86 posted 10/19/06 3:35am

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DarlingDiana said:

Michael is a smart man, or Raymone is a smart woman, either way, because this interview is a perfect way for MJ to get back in the public eye. No trial talk, no bullshit, just MJ talking about new music. It's a major teaser. November 2, he's going to lure everyone in and make them go crazy waiting for the new album. And I doubt Michael would do something like this if he wasn't atleast close to getting the album finished. There will not be any delays, he's cut all ties with 2 seas, he's got a fresh, new team that will not let him bullshit his way through 2-3 years of promises and exuses. The album will be out next year.... and it will be off the hook!

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Reply #87 posted 10/19/06 4:18am

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JackieBlue said:

Those are god-awful. And that 3rd photo--I've never seen MJ wear anything close to a simple pair of jeans and a shirt.


You've never seen the vids for They Don't Care About Us or Beat It?
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Reply #88 posted 10/19/06 5:46am

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MikeMatronik said:

WildStyle said:

Lil' teaser from the Access Hollywood interview...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...7aY1nKzra4


Thanks so much for showing this clip!
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I loved to see MJ. He looked happy and stable!


Maybe it's from the vacation in St.Tropez.
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Reply #89 posted 10/19/06 5:47am

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The wig is so awful smile
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