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Reply #30 posted 10/17/06 10:08am

dag

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Ellie said:

PurpleRighteous1 said:

I recently heard an MJ song I'd never heard before on a college radio station. I don't what it was called, but my guess it was called "Gotta Get Away". I only caught the tail end of it. It's pretty decent, classic MJ stuff. Is this some unreleased track I haven't heard of or is it brand new? I lost track of MJ's underground rumblings after Invincible

Sounds like Xscape. It was just a demo from the Invincible sessions that MJ had totally remixed it into something different (which we haven't heard) and was planning to use it at some point. He was really pissed off when it leaked.

I'm not a big fan. Maybe cos it's a demo, but the ending is really cheesy.

I don´t know if there are two versions of this song or not. i haven´t heard what´s being played on radio, but I love the demo. It´s cool! Better track than any other fast one on Invincible. I am sure he would be able to make an unbelievable for it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #31 posted 10/17/06 10:13am

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This is off topic, but I don´t wanna start a new thread about it....A collection inspired by MJ. Don´t like these:








but these are kinda cool:


Talk about MJ being over..... wink
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[Edited 10/17/06 10:27am]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #32 posted 10/17/06 10:17am

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Those are god-awful. And that 3rd photo--I've never seen MJ wear anything close to a simple pair of jeans and a shirt.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #33 posted 10/17/06 1:06pm

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SoulAlive said:

looks like an early tracklist is making the rounds...

MICHAEL JACKSON 'FEEL MY POWER'

"Feel My Power" featuring Will.I.Am and Fergie
"Takin' No Prisoners" featuring Jay-Z
"Endless"
"Don't Look At Me That Way" featuring 50 Cent
"Never Again"
"The Look In Your Eyes"
"The Man That You Need"
"Think Again" featuring Timbalind
"Only Just Begun (To Fight)" featuring Nas
"When You Hold Me" (duet with Beyonce)
"You'd Be Surprised"
"Define Your Love"
"If You Dare" with Lenny Kravitz and Slash
"Why (Does It Have To Be That Way?)" featuring a choir
"The World I Live In"


first single "Feel My Power" due in spring 2007.CD due in the summer with a world tour to follow.A second single has been picked "The Look In Your Eyes",a sexy slow jam similiar to "Butterflies".


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[Edited 10/17/06 5:33am]



I don't believe the tracklist, nor do I believe he'll actually have an album out in 2007.

But the tracklist makes me really, really hope that he doesn't have a bunch of angry "Why's everybody always pickin' on me?" songs on the album. He's played that to death and no one can relate to songs about bitching about celebrity.
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Reply #34 posted 10/17/06 1:33pm

Rhondab

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Ellie said:

I don't think you can speak for an entire generation. I was on the bus the other day and was amused at a bunch of school kids arguing over the best MJ songs. I felt like I was in the twilight zone with what I'm TOLD that generation is supposed to be thinking about him.


His detractors would be surprised at how popular his music is with teens and young adults.




Oh lawd....its like me liking an old temptation song. My daughter knows music from the the past and could sing you some Ike and Tina in a heartbeat but wouldn't buy a new Tina Turner cd. shrug

I was referring how he is viewed TODAY not how wonderful MJ was 10, 15 or 20 years ago.

and I'll speak for an generation since we're being sooooo sensitive about this topic lol Lawd
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Reply #35 posted 10/17/06 1:48pm

EmbattledWarri
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Tessa said:

SoulAlive said:

looks like an early tracklist is making the rounds...

MICHAEL JACKSON 'FEEL MY POWER'

"Feel My Power" featuring Will.I.Am and Fergie
"Takin' No Prisoners" featuring Jay-Z
"Endless"
"Don't Look At Me That Way" featuring 50 Cent
"Never Again"
"The Look In Your Eyes"
"The Man That You Need"
"Think Again" featuring Timbalind
"Only Just Begun (To Fight)" featuring Nas
"When You Hold Me" (duet with Beyonce)
"You'd Be Surprised"
"Define Your Love"
"If You Dare" with Lenny Kravitz and Slash
"Why (Does It Have To Be That Way?)" featuring a choir
"The World I Live In"


first single "Feel My Power" due in spring 2007.CD due in the summer with a world tour to follow.A second single has been picked "The Look In Your Eyes",a sexy slow jam similiar to "Butterflies".


.
[Edited 10/17/06 5:33am]



I don't believe the tracklist, nor do I believe he'll actually have an album out in 2007.

But the tracklist makes me really, really hope that he doesn't have a bunch of angry "Why's everybody always pickin' on me?" songs on the album. He's played that to death and no one can relate to songs about bitching about celebrity.


essentially an album like that would be perfect for him now,
cause it would be something he could relate with
unlike what happened with the invincible fiasco,, which no one took seriously
nobody wanted to hear about mj havin butterflies for some girl, or makin love til the break of dawn,
cause no one could buy it...

At least an angry album would be semi relatable, because of all the shit he is going through now, and in the past.
and people WOULD understand where that anger come from.
whether it will be successful is a different story.
but id rather hear mj, lashing out, then hear him crooning about some dame, which is probably false anyway
not that i question his sexuality,
but its just not believable anymore
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With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
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Reply #36 posted 10/17/06 2:17pm

Tessa

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:




I don't believe the tracklist, nor do I believe he'll actually have an album out in 2007.

But the tracklist makes me really, really hope that he doesn't have a bunch of angry "Why's everybody always pickin' on me?" songs on the album. He's played that to death and no one can relate to songs about bitching about celebrity.


essentially an album like that would be perfect for him now,
cause it would be something he could relate with
unlike what happened with the invincible fiasco,, which no one took seriously
nobody wanted to hear about mj havin butterflies for some girl, or makin love til the break of dawn,
cause no one could buy it...


wrong, because he's worked the angry poor me songs to death in the last 10 years. and the love songs are what people actually liked on Invincible. they didn't believe them, but they liked the songs.

At least an angry album would be semi relatable, because of all the shit he is going through now, and in the past.
and people WOULD understand where that anger come from.
whether it will be successful is a different story.
but id rather hear mj, lashing out, then hear him crooning about some dame, which is probably false anyway
not that i question his sexuality,
but its just not believable anymore


no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.
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Reply #37 posted 10/17/06 2:22pm

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Tessa said:[quote]

EmbattledWarrior said:



wrong, because he's worked the angry poor me songs to death in the last 10 years. and the love songs are what people actually liked on Invincible. they didn't believe them, but they liked the songs.

At least an angry album would be semi relatable, because of all the shit he is going through now, and in the past.
and people WOULD understand where that anger come from.
whether it will be successful is a different story.
but id rather hear mj, lashing out, then hear him crooning about some dame, which is probably false anyway
not that i question his sexuality,
but its just not believable anymore


no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.

True, ppl don´t wanna believe MJ meaning those love songs, but they like them. Most ppl like Butterflies.

Why would his crooning be false. He´s got some hormones too - look at the way he dances.
[Edited 10/17/06 14:22pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #38 posted 10/17/06 2:31pm

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SoulAlive said:

looks like an early tracklist is making the rounds...

MICHAEL JACKSON 'FEEL MY POWER'

"Feel My Power" featuring Will.I.Am and Fergie
"Takin' No Prisoners" featuring Jay-Z
"Endless"
"Don't Look At Me That Way" featuring 50 Cent
"Never Again"
"The Look In Your Eyes"
"The Man That You Need"
"Think Again" featuring Timbalind
"Only Just Begun (To Fight)" featuring Nas
"When You Hold Me" (duet with Beyonce)
"You'd Be Surprised"
"Define Your Love"
"If You Dare" with Lenny Kravitz and Slash
"Why (Does It Have To Be That Way?)" featuring a choir
"The World I Live In"


first single "Feel My Power" due in spring 2007.CD due in the summer with a world tour to follow.A second single has been picked "The Look In Your Eyes",a sexy slow jam similiar to "Butterflies".


.
[Edited 10/17/06 5:33am]


Once again, Michael refusing to grow up. Hell, if he absolutely must do duets, at least do it with grown folks. Leave the thugged out Romper Roomers and the fake blonde tramp in the playpen where they belong.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #39 posted 10/17/06 6:56pm

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SoulAlive said:

looks like an early tracklist is making the rounds...


lol The only thing missing is "Moonbeam Levels"! razz
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Reply #40 posted 10/17/06 7:50pm

whatsgoingon

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Tessa said:[quote]

EmbattledWarrior said:



wrong, because he's worked the angry poor me songs to death in the last 10 years. and the love songs are what people actually liked on Invincible. they didn't believe them, but they liked the songs.

At least an angry album would be semi relatable, because of all the shit he is going through now, and in the past.
and people WOULD understand where that anger come from.
whether it will be successful is a different story.
but id rather hear mj, lashing out, then hear him crooning about some dame, which is probably false anyway
not that i question his sexuality,
but its just not believable anymore


no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.


One of Michael biggest problems since Thriller is that he has lost the ability to sound sincere, what ever he is singing. Now when he was 11 yrs old and singing 'Whose Loving You', now I doubt very much he knew what he was truely singing about but he sounded so sincere and deep, he can't seem able to evoke such feelings anymore.

Now, whether he is singing about Healing the world, Lost children or silly tabloids he just sounds so false, weak and whiny. When he is singing songs like Scream, Black and White and Jam he practically shouts as oppose to singing the songs, I just get the feeling that just singing doesn't come naturally to him anymore. I guess that's what you get when you spend yrs watering down your sound or trying to suppress your true self.
[Edited 10/17/06 19:52pm]
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Reply #41 posted 10/17/06 8:41pm

EmbattledWarri
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Tessa said:[quote]

EmbattledWarrior said:



wrong, because he's worked the angry poor me songs to death in the last 10 years. and the love songs are what people actually liked on Invincible. they didn't believe them, but they liked the songs.

At least an angry album would be semi relatable, because of all the shit he is going through now, and in the past.
and people WOULD understand where that anger come from.
whether it will be successful is a different story.
but id rather hear mj, lashing out, then hear him crooning about some dame, which is probably false anyway
not that i question his sexuality,
but its just not believable anymore


no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.

not to be a stick in the mud,
but its not "wrong" cause its my opinion
whether you agree with or not is irrelevent

if its not believeable its not preferable,
as a colleague above me said
the main problem is Jackson is not being sincere with his music.
As a complete comparison between History And Invinicble,
i choose History, because its a more complete album, and its something i could connect with him...

Invincible could be easily Justin Timberlakes Album than Michael Jacksons,
History at least spawn a few great songs like Stranger in Moscow, TDCAU, Scream
showing the world through his perspective,
majority were written by him, produced by him,
so his labor went into the work,
Its easy to hire a bunch of producers, to make you a hit album,
its totally something else when your doing it by yourself
playing all the instruments writing the songs, YOU wanna sing,

thats why i respect Prince so much more than Michael, Cause he does what he wants, and doesn't give a flying fuck what the fans think,
Michael is too concerned with being the king of pop,
instead of making music how he envisions it, if he evens envisions it anymore,
if he feels angry songs, let him do it, if he feels love songs let him do it,
but he has to FEEL it, the work suffers when an artist isn't personally connected with the music, on a love basis,
Nobodyy wants the King Of Pop anymore,
the man in the mirrors face has been smashed to the ground...
If Michael needs to record something thats his personally,
or something he connects with personally, not because its possibly onna generate a hit.
ive said this before, a real artist doesn't care about making hits
it helps, but it isn't their main motive
its just about making music they enjoy,
if the radio don't like it
fuck it

never kow tow to the jukebox with a heart beat
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #42 posted 10/17/06 10:05pm

CinisterCee

CandaceS said:

SoulAlive said:

looks like an early tracklist is making the rounds...


lol The only thing missing is "Moonbeam Levels"! razz

lol


Why is Timbaland spelled "Timbalind", and why would you need both Lenny Kravitz AND Slash on one tune? confuse
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Reply #43 posted 10/17/06 10:22pm

Tessa

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:



no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.

not to be a stick in the mud,
but its not "wrong" cause its my opinion
whether you agree with or not is irrelevent

if its not believeable its not preferable,
as a colleague above me said
the main problem is Jackson is not being sincere with his music.
As a complete comparison between History And Invinicble,
i choose History, because its a more complete album, and its something i could connect with him...

Invincible could be easily Justin Timberlakes Album than Michael Jacksons,
History at least spawn a few great songs like Stranger in Moscow, TDCAU, Scream
showing the world through his perspective,
majority were written by him, produced by him,
so his labor went into the work,
Its easy to hire a bunch of producers, to make you a hit album,
its totally something else when your doing it by yourself
playing all the instruments writing the songs, YOU wanna sing,

thats why i respect Prince so much more than Michael, Cause he does what he wants, and doesn't give a flying fuck what the fans think,
Michael is too concerned with being the king of pop,
instead of making music how he envisions it, if he evens envisions it anymore,
if he feels angry songs, let him do it, if he feels love songs let him do it,
but he has to FEEL it, the work suffers when an artist isn't personally connected with the music, on a love basis,
Nobodyy wants the King Of Pop anymore,
the man in the mirrors face has been smashed to the ground...
If Michael needs to record something thats his personally,
or something he connects with personally, not because its possibly onna generate a hit.
ive said this before, a real artist doesn't care about making hits
it helps, but it isn't their main motive
its just about making music they enjoy,
if the radio don't like it
fuck it

never kow tow to the jukebox with a heart beat



sorry, you're wrong (yeah, i said it again). continuing to sing songs about how much his life sucks is not going to sell MJ any more albums than it did with History or Invincible. it's not going to give him anymore classic songs either. Leave Me Alone was great once. not the 20 times he's re-written it since.
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Reply #44 posted 10/17/06 10:29pm

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whatsgoingon said:

Tessa said:



no, it's not believable, but it's preferable to him doing what hasn't worked for the last 10 years. and the angry songs are not relatable, because the people buying the album 1) aren't celebrities who know what he's talking about or 2) even care.


One of Michael biggest problems since Thriller is that he has lost the ability to sound sincere, what ever he is singing. Now when he was 11 yrs old and singing 'Whose Loving You', now I doubt very much he knew what he was truely singing about but he sounded so sincere and deep, he can't seem able to evoke such feelings anymore.

Now, whether he is singing about Healing the world, Lost children or silly tabloids he just sounds so false, weak and whiny. When he is singing songs like Scream, Black and White and Jam he practically shouts as oppose to singing the songs, I just get the feeling that just singing doesn't come naturally to him anymore. I guess that's what you get when you spend yrs watering down your sound or trying to suppress your true self.
[Edited 10/17/06 19:52pm]

Come on whatsgoingon what you just said is a bunch of crap.
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Reply #45 posted 10/17/06 10:56pm

EmbattledWarri
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Tessa said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


not to be a stick in the mud,
but its not "wrong" cause its my opinion
whether you agree with or not is irrelevent

if its not believeable its not preferable,
as a colleague above me said
the main problem is Jackson is not being sincere with his music.
As a complete comparison between History And Invinicble,
i choose History, because its a more complete album, and its something i could connect with him...

Invincible could be easily Justin Timberlakes Album than Michael Jacksons,
History at least spawn a few great songs like Stranger in Moscow, TDCAU, Scream
showing the world through his perspective,
majority were written by him, produced by him,
so his labor went into the work,
Its easy to hire a bunch of producers, to make you a hit album,
its totally something else when your doing it by yourself
playing all the instruments writing the songs, YOU wanna sing,

thats why i respect Prince so much more than Michael, Cause he does what he wants, and doesn't give a flying fuck what the fans think,
Michael is too concerned with being the king of pop,
instead of making music how he envisions it, if he evens envisions it anymore,
if he feels angry songs, let him do it, if he feels love songs let him do it,
but he has to FEEL it, the work suffers when an artist isn't personally connected with the music, on a love basis,
Nobodyy wants the King Of Pop anymore,
the man in the mirrors face has been smashed to the ground...
If Michael needs to record something thats his personally,
or something he connects with personally, not because its possibly onna generate a hit.
ive said this before, a real artist doesn't care about making hits
it helps, but it isn't their main motive
its just about making music they enjoy,
if the radio don't like it
fuck it

never kow tow to the jukebox with a heart beat



sorry, you're wrong (yeah, i said it again). continuing to sing songs about how much his life sucks is not going to sell MJ any more albums than it did with History or Invincible. it's not going to give him anymore classic songs either. Leave Me Alone was great once. not the 20 times he's re-written it since.


it shouldn't be about album sales
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #46 posted 10/17/06 10:58pm

CinisterCee

EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:




sorry, you're wrong (yeah, i said it again). continuing to sing songs about how much his life sucks is not going to sell MJ any more albums than it did with History or Invincible. it's not going to give him anymore classic songs either. Leave Me Alone was great once. not the 20 times he's re-written it since.


it shouldn't be about album sales


nod it's about how many times he can write "leave me alone" for an unreceptive audience thumbs up!
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Reply #47 posted 10/17/06 10:59pm

EmbattledWarri
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CinisterCee said:

EmbattledWarrior said:



it shouldn't be about album sales


nod it's about how many times he can write "leave me alone" for an unreceptive audience thumbs up!

no one likes a parrot cinnie cool
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
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Reply #48 posted 10/17/06 11:01pm

CinisterCee

EmbattledWarrior said:

CinisterCee said:



nod it's about how many times he can write "leave me alone" for an unreceptive audience thumbs up!

no one likes a parrot cinnie cool


I agree with Tessa. smile
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Reply #49 posted 10/17/06 11:03pm

Tessa

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:




sorry, you're wrong (yeah, i said it again). continuing to sing songs about how much his life sucks is not going to sell MJ any more albums than it did with History or Invincible. it's not going to give him anymore classic songs either. Leave Me Alone was great once. not the 20 times he's re-written it since.


it shouldn't be about album sales



it is to him. and his fans.
"I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you."
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Reply #50 posted 10/17/06 11:03pm

EmbattledWarri
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CinisterCee said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


no one likes a parrot cinnie cool


I agree with Tessa. smile

its cool i still love ya
hug

in that non gay way of course lol
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Reply #51 posted 10/17/06 11:05pm

EmbattledWarri
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Tessa said:

EmbattledWarrior said:



it shouldn't be about album sales



it is to him. and his fans.

ah well, then to hell with them all,
ima go play moonwalker on my old sega
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
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Reply #52 posted 10/17/06 11:11pm

CinisterCee

EmbattledWarrior said:

Tessa said:




it is to him. and his fans.

ah well, then to hell with them all,
ima go play moonwalker on my old sega

lol

hey I like that game! smile I can't get past the level with those diagonally flying zombies.
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Reply #53 posted 10/17/06 11:15pm

EmbattledWarri
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CinisterCee said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


ah well, then to hell with them all,
ima go play moonwalker on my old sega

lol

hey I like that game! smile I can't get past the level with those diagonally flying zombies.


AAAAOOOOOW

Given all the molestation stuff, this one looks almost sinister... lol
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #54 posted 10/17/06 11:28pm

CinisterCee

Love how MJ's screams sound between each level through the console soundcard


Ho/o/o/o/o!
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Reply #55 posted 10/18/06 3:16am

MikeMatronik

EmbattledWarrior said:

CinisterCee said:


lol

hey I like that game! smile I can't get past the level with those diagonally flying zombies.


AAAAOOOOOW

Given all the molestation stuff, this one looks almost sinister... lol


I owned Moonwalker...I played it so much on my master system!!!!!

cool Those were the days!
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Reply #56 posted 10/18/06 3:28am

Ellie

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I'm actually with EmbattledWarrior on this one.
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Reply #57 posted 10/18/06 3:40am

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CinisterCee said:

why would you need both Lenny Kravitz AND Slash on one tune? confuse


Umm 'Always On The Run' was a Lenny tune, featuring Slash, as i recall.

Not that i believe this tracklist in a zillion years.
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Reply #58 posted 10/18/06 3:45am

SoulAlive

you guys,that tracklist is 100% fake lol

I was just playing around.But unfortunately,that's probably exactly the type of album he's gonna make neutral
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Reply #59 posted 10/18/06 4:47am

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dag said:

This is off topic, but I don´t wanna start a new thread about

Well, his clothes were designed by Gianna Versace. so it's a verscae rip off.
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