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Thread started 10/09/06 4:25am

mikek1

What artists actually own their masters?

It's a damn shame Prince doesn't own the songs he wrote and played on but do many sucessful musicians actually own their masters?
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Reply #1 posted 10/09/06 4:26am

MikeMatronik

U2
Madonna (this a rumour...not confirmed!)
David Bowie
Ani DiFranco
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Reply #2 posted 10/09/06 4:31am

Natisse

Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley nod
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Reply #3 posted 10/09/06 7:19am

Shapeshifter

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Ray Charles owned his.
There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently
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Reply #4 posted 10/09/06 7:46am

jbc

LL Cool J's new deal with Def Jam gave him ownership of his masters.
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Reply #5 posted 10/09/06 9:16am

lastdecember

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Bon Jovi, John Mellencamp, and Elton John i know for sure, the only thing Elton doesnt own is his first Album from 1968 "Empty Sky" that is still owned by Dick James i believe.

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Reply #6 posted 10/09/06 9:33am

funkpill

George Clinton own the 4 Warner Bros. Funkadelic masters.



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Reply #7 posted 10/09/06 10:19am

pkidwell

Color Me Badd fought for ownership but someone convinced them their songs were weak so thay gave up the fight.
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Reply #8 posted 10/09/06 10:27am

Meloh9

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funkpill said:

George Clinton own the 4 Warner Bros. Funkadelic masters.



biggrin



I think he owns the westbound masters also
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Reply #9 posted 10/09/06 10:44am

VinnyM27

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A very good question. I've always wondered that. I think Donna Summer does and prehaps she is the reason the market is so overfolded with no shortage of DS collections.
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Reply #10 posted 10/09/06 10:51am

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With music being recorded digitally more often these days, the discussion of owning one's masters is almost all but outdated since when one records digitally there really aren't any physical masters to speak of. That said, it'll be nice because that means that's less that the record company can hold over an artist's head.
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Reply #11 posted 10/09/06 11:46am

Mong

You're completely wrong. Masters are masters, whether digital or not. You would usually have a CD/DAT master these days. With a standard recording contract, the record company STILL owns the masters.
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Reply #12 posted 10/09/06 11:53am

sosgemini

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smart artist.
Space for sale...
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Reply #13 posted 10/09/06 12:04pm

lastdecember

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I believe the Stones own their masters too. And i think that Billy Joel did finally get them also.

Its funny but most of these artists that own their recordings also seem to be the biggest concert draws too.

Jovi,Elton,U2,Stones,Springsteen,Joel etc...

Also just a side/personal note, Rick Springfield has his masters, he recently worked a deal with BMG to get them. u may joke but everytime a jukebox/Radio or some bar plays Jessies Girl, ring the cash register.
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Reply #14 posted 10/09/06 12:54pm

Meloh9

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if u don't own the masters the masters own u
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Reply #15 posted 10/09/06 12:54pm

mikek1

funkpill said:

George Clinton own the 4 Warner Bros. Funkadelic masters.



biggrin


DAMN!
HE MUST BE RICH! All those samples; money, money money!
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Reply #16 posted 10/09/06 1:43pm

funkpill

mikek1 said:

funkpill said:

George Clinton own the 4 Warner Bros. Funkadelic masters.



biggrin


DAMN!
HE MUST BE RICH! All those samples; money, money money!



yeah...


Just hope it isn't being wasted on his habit rolleyes
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Reply #17 posted 10/09/06 2:01pm

MikeMatronik

funkpill said:

mikek1 said:



DAMN!
HE MUST BE RICH! All those samples; money, money money!



yeah...


Just hope it isn't being wasted on his habit rolleyes


Isn't he (and the P-funk projects) one of the most sampled artists, togetther with James Brown?
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Reply #18 posted 10/09/06 2:01pm

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I don't know if Courtney owns the masters to the Hole material (perhaps Celebrity Skin) but she definately owns the masters to her solo work. And she owns the Nirvana masters too.
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Reply #19 posted 10/09/06 2:02pm

MikeMatronik

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I don't know if Courtney owns the masters to the Hole material (perhaps Celebrity Skin) but she definately owns the masters to her solo work. And she owns the Nirvana masters too.


Do the other members of Nirvana have a share in it?
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Reply #20 posted 10/09/06 2:05pm

KingKrazy

MikeMatronik said:

funkpill said:




yeah...


Just hope it isn't being wasted on his habit rolleyes


Isn't he (and the P-funk projects) one of the most sampled artists, togetther with James Brown?



umm how does George Clinton own his masters, but not his publishing
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Reply #21 posted 10/09/06 2:06pm

MikeMatronik

KingKrazy said:

MikeMatronik said:



Isn't he (and the P-funk projects) one of the most sampled artists, togetther with James Brown?



umm how does George Clinton own his masters, but not his publishing


So he doesn't get money when someone does a cover or use part of melody of a song he wrote? eek
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Reply #22 posted 10/09/06 2:11pm

KingKrazy

MikeMatronik said:

KingKrazy said:




umm how does George Clinton own his masters, but not his publishing


So he doesn't get money when someone does a cover or use part of melody of a song he wrote? eek


i think so, he doesn't own his publishing but has his masters, so what good is that
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Reply #23 posted 10/09/06 2:14pm

MikeMatronik

KingKrazy said:

MikeMatronik said:



So he doesn't get money when someone does a cover or use part of melody of a song he wrote? eek


i think so, he doesn't own his publishing but has his masters, so what good is that


But why is that?

Was he tricked in giving the publishing to someone else
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Reply #24 posted 10/09/06 2:21pm

KingKrazy

MikeMatronik said:

KingKrazy said:



i think so, he doesn't own his publishing but has his masters, so what good is that


But why is that?

Was he tricked in giving the publishing to someone else
?


i remember some rapper was getting sued by the publishing company and George Clinton said he has nuthin to do with it since he doesn't own his publishing, so if he doesnt own his publishing
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Reply #25 posted 10/09/06 2:29pm

stopHATING

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Chicago
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #26 posted 10/09/06 2:41pm

lastdecember

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Chicago


Yes CHICAGO own all their stuff. the are ways u can tell that artists own their own stuff. First if you see Re-issues and expanded editions/remastering it usually means the label and artist have come to terms on the masters. Almost all of the artists i mentioned have re-issued their stuff, Jovi,Elton,Bruce,Stones,Billy,Chicago.

Another way to tell is when a certain artist that was big in a certain time period and they are not featured on comilations. Take the 80's for example, Jovi isnt part of any 80's metal/hairband compilations. You will never find these artists on compilations and if you do, its rare, but they probably have done their own licensing for it.

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Reply #27 posted 10/09/06 2:50pm

KingKrazy

lastdecember said:

stopHATING said:

Chicago


Yes CHICAGO own all their stuff. the are ways u can tell that artists own their own stuff. First if you see Re-issues and expanded editions/remastering it usually means the label and artist have come to terms on the masters. Almost all of the artists i mentioned have re-issued their stuff, Jovi,Elton,Bruce,Stones,Billy,Chicago.

Another way to tell is when a certain artist that was big in a certain time period and they are not featured on comilations. Take the 80's for example, Jovi isnt part of any 80's metal/hairband compilations. You will never find these artists on compilations and if you do, its rare, but they probably have done their own licensing for it.



Okay what you said is bullshit since Livin On a Prayer is on all those stupid 80 comps

and i see that most of yall are naming names, and dont really know who owns there masters i see.
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Reply #28 posted 10/09/06 3:05pm

ThePunisher

I'm not sure but I think that Chuck D owns the masters to Public Enemy's music.
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Reply #29 posted 10/09/06 3:22pm

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