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PrintableNDRU said: vainandy said: Rick James and Protegees: Rick James - 1978 Teena Marie - 1979 Stone City Band - 1980 The Mary Jane Girls - 1982 Also, Rick had started producing other artists in 1982...The Temptations "Standing On The Top" and Kleeer "She Said She Loves Me" in 1983 beating Prince to the punch in that category as well. Prince produced Sheena Easton's "Sugar Walls" in 1984. He also discovered Bobby Nunn in 1982 (which sounded just like Prince) 
Prince and Protegees: Prince - 1978 The Time - 1981 Vanity 6 - 1982 cool. thanks. I was just a young'un at the time. I was a Rick James fan before a Prince fan, though. Just never got as deep into him as Prince. I was equally into both of them. Those feuding years were great. It brought out the best music from both of them. . . [Edited 10/3/06 13:28pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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In My House is a better song in the traditional sense.... it gets you dancing, it's faster.....
Nasty Girl is aweosme but it's hard for a mainstream person to appreciate I think. The bass and drum pattern are great, and the whole feel is sexy. It build up and buld up.... but even with the 2nd part ("something I can groove to") it never gets up the momentum IMH does. BTW, the only real "vocalist" in MJGs was Jo-Jo. I don't think the other girls ever really sing. WHen I lived in Chicago they had a DJ on the black station that was doing gossip and said that basically, the Waters sisters did all the real singing for the Mary Jane Girls. They are credited on as BG signers on songs like "Shadow Lover" and also appear on Teena Marie songs "WHere's California". I always wondered if Jo JO was actually singing too.  |
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GaryMF said: In My House is a better song in the traditional sense.... it gets you dancing, it's faster.....
Nasty Girl is aweosme but it's hard for a mainstream person to appreciate I think. The bass and drum pattern are great, and the whole feel is sexy. It build up and buld up.... but even with the 2nd part ("something I can groove to") it never gets up the momentum IMH does. Despite all that, "Nasty Girl" was the bigger dance hit on Billboard's dance chart.  | |
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vainandy said: There's no doubt The Mary Jane Girls were more talented than Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6 but I like The Mary Jane Girls' music the least of the three.
I agree with you on that! | |
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NDRU said: blackguitaristz said: Well, actually, Rick already had the idea of doing the Mary Jane Girls BEFORE P hit with Vanity6. When Denise was dating Rick, he told her he was going to put a girl group around her. More than likely, she told P this when she hooked up with P. Similar to P beating Rick to the punch with one of Rick's concept with the film Purple Rain. Rick had talked about doing this musical film in 82 called "Alice In Ghettoland" which would feature himself, Teena, the Stone City Band, etc. but who knows when Prince had the idea?
It just looks suspicious--Process & The Do Rags and the Mary Jane Girls. But Prince has a talent for incorporating others' ideas into his own thing, so maybe HE stole it like you say. Actually, I heard of both Rick's bands before Prince's! Rick was slightly more mainstream at the time I think. [Edited 10/2/06 14:27pm] who in the hell are process and the do rags? that name is hysterical!!  [Edited 10/2/06 15:42pm] | |
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vainandy said: Actually The Isley Brothers had both of them beat first with a mix of funk and rock. Parliament had them beat first also with the protegees. Yeah. It ALL goes back to Jimi Hendrix, as far as mixing funk with rock. Then Funkadelic, took it to the next stage. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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sextonseven said: "Despite all that, 'Nasty Girl' was the bigger dance hit on Billboard's dance chart.
"And as far as charts go, The Mary Jane Girls' "In My House" was a bigger hit than Vanity 6's "Nasty Girl." "In My House" was a top 10 pop single as well as a top three soul music single. Personally, I like "Nasty Girl" better. It had a sly percussion-based rhythm section. "In My House" was literally a carbon-copy of the Rick James style. At least "Nasty Girl" came across like it was tailored for Vanity 6 to sing. [Edited 10/2/06 19:16pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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namepeace said: lilgish said: oh? I meant vanity 6, edit... In My House is a jam and a half, but "Nasty Girl" has one of the best hooks of any Prince song, ever. Agreed. And "Sex Shooter" is nothing to sneeze at either. That funky ass synth, those coos.... | |
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I would have to agree. And "All Night Long" is best of all. | |
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Nope. But "All Night Long" might be. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: But "All Night Long" might be.
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GangstaFam said: Moonbeam said: But "All Night Long" might be.
This is the truth right here. "Nasty Girls" is classic. But "All Night Long" is the jam. "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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GangstaFam said: Moonbeam said: But "All Night Long" might be.
Renners!  I was going to post that. | |
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:  watch yer mouth!!  sex shooter alone trumps anything by Vanity or the MJGs!!
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GaryMF said: In My House is a better song in the traditional sense.... it gets you dancing, it's faster.....
Nasty Girl is aweosme but it's hard for a mainstream person to appreciate I think. The bass and drum pattern are great, and the whole feel is sexy. It build up and buld up.... but even with the 2nd part ("something I can groove to") it never gets up the momentum IMH does. I agree with this.I love "Nasty Girls" but I think "In My House" is the better song. | |
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Najee said: sextonseven said: "Despite all that, 'Nasty Girl' was the bigger dance hit on Billboard's dance chart.
"And as far as charts go, The Mary Jane Girls' "In My House" was a bigger hit than Vanity 6's "Nasty Girl." "In My House" was a top 10 pop single as well as a top three soul music single. Personally, I like "Nasty Girl" better. It had a sly percussion-based rhythm section. "In My House" was literally a carbon-copy of the Rick James style. At least "Nasty Girl" came across like it was tailored for Vanity 6 to sing. That's all true, but the original post said "In My House" was better because it gets you dancing. Apparently not dancing as much as "Nasty Girl" did judging by its success in the clubs at the time. | |
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dancerella said: NDRU said: but who knows when Prince had the idea?
It just looks suspicious--Process & The Do Rags and the Mary Jane Girls. But Prince has a talent for incorporating others' ideas into his own thing, so maybe HE stole it like you say. Actually, I heard of both Rick's bands before Prince's! Rick was slightly more mainstream at the time I think. [Edited 10/2/06 14:27pm] who in the hell are process and the do rags? that name is hysterical!!
[Edited 10/2/06 15:42pm] They were a Time ripoff. Process' process was quite the do, though. My Legacy
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NDRU said: dancerella said: who in the hell are process and the do rags? that name is hysterical!!
[Edited 10/2/06 15:42pm] They were a Time ripoff. Process' process was quite the do, though. were they any good? damn,that name is mad funny! rick james was a trip. R.I.P. | |
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dancerella said: NDRU said: They were a Time ripoff. Process' process was quite the do, though. were they any good? damn,that name is mad funny! rick james was a trip. R.I.P. I'm not sure. They didn't last long, and I was pretty young when they came out. I just remember their name & look. My Legacy
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dancerella said: NDRU said: but who knows when Prince had the idea?
It just looks suspicious--Process & The Do Rags and the Mary Jane Girls. But Prince has a talent for incorporating others' ideas into his own thing, so maybe HE stole it like you say. Actually, I heard of both Rick's bands before Prince's! Rick was slightly more mainstream at the time I think. [Edited 10/2/06 14:27pm] who in the hell are process and the do rags? that name is hysterical!!
[Edited 10/2/06 15:42pm] Rick named them after processed hair. During the time, Rick said he wanted to bring back the processed hair of the 1950s. Rick talked a lot in 1984 that their album was "soon to be released" but I never knew it actually got released until I joined the org. They never played any of their songs in my area. I guess he finally went through with it. He also said in some of the same interviews that year that he was working on a movie that year and "he would show who really had talent instead of riding around on a motorcycle like a fool". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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blackguitaristz said: vainandy said: Actually The Isley Brothers had both of them beat first with a mix of funk and rock. Parliament had them beat first also with the protegees. Yeah. It ALL goes back to Jimi Hendrix, as far as mixing funk with rock. Then Funkadelic, took it to the next stage. And The Barkays used to call funk "Black Rock". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Rick named them after processed hair. During the time, Rick said he wanted to bring back the processed hair of the 1950s. Rick talked a lot in 1984 that their album was "soon to be released" but I never knew it actually got released until I joined the org. They never played any of their songs in my area. I guess he finally went through with it. He also said in some of the same interviews that year that he was working on a movie that year and "he would show who really had talent instead of riding around on a motorcycle like a fool". That worked out really well for him!
I don't know if/when the Process album came out. I saw them on Entertainment Tonight or something. It was before I'd heard of the Time (which was when I saw Purple Rain in the theater) if I remember right. My Legacy
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vainandy said: Rick named them after processed hair. During the time, Rick said he wanted to bring back the processed hair of the 1950s. Rick talked a lot in 1984 that their album was "soon to be released" but I never knew it actually got released until I joined the org. They never played any of their songs in my area. I guess he finally went through with it. He also said in some of the same interviews that year that he was working on a movie that year and "he would show who really had talent instead of riding around on a motorcycle like a fool". Ricks version of Purple Rain. http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= [Edited 10/3/06 14:05pm] "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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vainandy said: Rick named them after processed hair. During the time, Rick said he wanted to bring back the processed hair of the 1950s. Rick talked a lot in 1984 that their album was "soon to be released" but I never knew it actually got released until I joined the org. They never played any of their songs in my area. I guess he finally went through with it. He also said in some of the same interviews that year that he was working on a movie that year and "he would show who really had talent instead of riding around on a motorcycle like a fool". Man, you gotta love Rick, may he rest in peace. | |
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ElCapitan said: vainandy said: Rick named them after processed hair. During the time, Rick said he wanted to bring back the processed hair of the 1950s. Rick talked a lot in 1984 that their album was "soon to be released" but I never knew it actually got released until I joined the org. They never played any of their songs in my area. I guess he finally went through with it. He also said in some of the same interviews that year that he was working on a movie that year and "he would show who really had talent instead of riding around on a motorcycle like a fool". Ricks version of Purple Rain. http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= [Edited 10/3/06 14:05pm] I can't see videos on this computer. I bet it's the "Glow" video though. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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sextonseven said: vainandy said: Rick named them after processed hair. During the time, Rick said he wanted to bring back the processed hair of the 1950s. Rick talked a lot in 1984 that their album was "soon to be released" but I never knew it actually got released until I joined the org. They never played any of their songs in my area. I guess he finally went through with it. He also said in some of the same interviews that year that he was working on a movie that year and "he would show who really had talent instead of riding around on a motorcycle like a fool". Man, you gotta love Rick, may he rest in peace. He absolutely lived to put down "Princess". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I can't see videos on this computer. I bet it's the "Glow" video though. You don't even have to ask. "I'm Rick James! I don't need nobody!" "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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ElCapitan said: vainandy said: I can't see videos on this computer. I bet it's the "Glow" video though. You don't even have to ask. "I'm Rick James! I don't need nobody!"  I knew it! That scene is just like the backstage scene in "Purple Rain" with Prince and the club owner.Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I knew it! That scene is just like the backstage scene in "Purple Rain" with Prince and the club owner.ruffly white shirt, lace gloves and all! My Legacy
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NDRU said: vainandy said: I knew it! That scene is just like the backstage scene in "Purple Rain" with Prince and the club owner.ruffly white shirt, lace gloves and all! They even buried Rick in a Prince-like shirt and jacket. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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