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Along with Al B. Sure's "Nite and Day", these 2 albums ushered in the New Jack Swing era, easily the 2 biggest New Jack Swing albums ever...now it's time to measure them up against each other:

Bobby's standout cuts: "Don't Be Cruel", "My Prerogative", "Roni", "Rock Wit'Cha", "Every Little Step You Take"

Guy's standout cuts: "Groove Me", "Teddy's Jam", "Piece of My Love", "Goodbye Love", "Spend The Night"

Now, IMO this easily goes to Guy because you can listen to their shit all the way through while B. Brown has a few fillers on his shit. Both great albums but someone has to win and in this case it's Guy. Plus, Teddy produced B. Brown's biggest hit on that album "My Prerogative" so that just about sums it up.

New Jacker Swingas, chime in for your opinion!

(But damn, looking back over B. Brown's top 5 cuts on his album...his shit looks a lot stronger than Guy's top 5 cuts! LOL! Oops! But I'm STILL stickin' to my guns and calling the winner Guy!...I think? )

U hit it right on the head. Bobby's five do look stronger but Guy as an album still holds up...Goodby Love-damn, Bobby could never do that...The 12" of Rock Witcha was great but still GUY get's the win...and I think it was LA & Babyface's production skills as well as Teddy Riley that made the album as good as it was...

Damn!! StoneCrib, I like them both , but if I gotta choose I'll go with Bobby because every cut on that album was slamming (hope you get it together Bobby) . Much respect due to Teddy Riley, Aaron and Damon Hall .

nurse said:

Yeah, it IS a tough call! You know what's the weird thing? Damien wasn't even on the debut album. The "guy" on the cover is Timmy Gatling and he left right after they finished the album...it's hilarious that he's even on the cover but never performed any of the songs after it was released. I bet Gatling feels like the dude that left the Beatles! LOL!

Is where my vote goes 2.

New-Jack Swing was the new funk back then....

HrdwcH said:

Then your vote is null and void

funkpill said:

Tru dat!

StoneCrib said:

I think you inadvertently illustrated your point right here. You didn't even mention my favorite Guy track ("I Like") as a standout, but I doubt there are more than a few people who could name another track on Bobby's album. Guy is an exceptional album while Don't Be Cruel is a collection of great songs and filler.

AlexdeParis said:

That was thee jam!!!

As well as 'Just Dance, Don't Clap'...

AlexdeParis said:

Im gonna take the underscore songs ...
Bobby with "Ill Be Good 2 U" "All Day All Night" that other song and "I Really Love U Girl "

GUY - Just Dance Dont Clap You Hands U Can Call Me Crazy" My Business

ILL GO WITH.....
























I CANT DO IT!!!.....I refuse to, on the grounds that it may incriminate me. I claim that on the Fifth Dimension and Marilyn McCoo!

I don't think I even bothered to get Bobby Brown or New Edition on CD. Of course I love those songs from back in the day.

But give me Guy anytime!


Jaaaaam
Ohhh jaa-a-aaammm

damn how can i choose? I love both of those albums....but as far as listening wise, I can actually listen to Bobby's straight through, while i'm forever skipping around Guy's album...

CinisterCee said:

thats weird! I dont have New Edition NE HEartbreak CD either. I only every had it on vinyl and cassette. I refuse to pick up the CD of Hearbreak, it may not sound as good...and that other added on song, i didnt like it much. "Superlady" or something. I actually bought Guy and Bobby Browns CD's around the same time though. Like 1996

They both horridly needs remastering as all the old MCA CD's do.
[Edited 4/29/06 10:20am]

paisleypark4 said:

I think I hear a carousel...

'Round and 'Round I go
Up and down, side to side,
Everything's gonna be all right!

I love that song. The Bobby song you forgot is "Take It Slow." Who can blame you?

AlexdeParis said:

But that was a single too. Though the original mix is highly better.

I have the 12" u know its funky too. The 12" of Groove Me is better than the original to me.

Take It Slow....the only song I skip on that cd

I skip My Business and Just Dance on Guy unfortunatley.

Bobby Brown
Don't Be Cruel
My Prerogative
Roni
Rock Wit'cha
Every Little Step


Guy
Groove Me
Teddy's Jam
You Can Call Me Crazy
I Like
Round And Round


When you take into consideration LA & Babyface had most of the Guy organization in on the production of Don't Be Cruel (the album), i'd consider it a wash for New Jack cred.
The Guy influence is obvious as the basic grooves of My Prerogative and Round And Round are the same.


Don't Be Cruel probably has the edge for having better songs overall due to the LA/Babyface factor.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

It is easily Don't Be Cruel with the exception of Take It Slow, the rest of the LP is easily classincs, with Guy, you have to get rid of You Can Call Me Crazy(you can tell Teddy stole this track from Al B Sure!) and you have to get rid of My Business these two tracks aren't good tracks while on DBC you only have to get rid of one.

AND DIDNT GUY AND BOBBY BROWN tour 2gether on the My Prerogative tour, imagine that tour was like Guy and Bobby had the best live show sans anybody not named Jacko,Prince or Hammer.

paisleypark4 said:

krazykid18 said:

Why do you say that? In fact, you can argue that he could have given it to Al B. because if I recall Teddy produced a couple of cuts on Al's album(s) as well.

krazykid18 said:

awwww hells nah, this is the jam. The old schoolers made me like it more

"Don't Be Cruel"

BUT

"My Prerogative" is a better example, imo.

paisleypark4 said:

Co-sign. "My Business" is the only song I don't love on that CD (although I do like it).

StoneCrib said:

here is the article, it is taken from 1988 article on Teddy Riley,Al B Sure created the song, and teddy riley took it from him.

http://www.njs4ever.net/BMC-VV.pdf

read this whole thing,the song sounds like something Al B would have done, Al B only worked with Ted on one song If IM Not Your Lover, and the remix was way better than the original.

krazykid18 said:

Well, according to the liner notes, Teddy only arranged the album version (Al co-wrote it with Tim Gatling and produced it). Teddy produced and arranged the remix and received a co-writing credit.

krazykid18 said:

I couldnt opne the PDF.

paisleypark4 said:

Agreed. That's one reason I didn't buy them - they sound flat as hell compared to the records or even the cassettes!

krazykid18 said:

u know what it DOES sound like an Al B Sure song!


I love it. I wish it was on Al's album instead of "Kissing Me Softly"

paisleypark4 said:

Really? I think "Killing Me Softly" is the glue that holds the album together. I wouldn't dream of comparing it to the original, but I love how he put his stamp on it.

paisleypark4 said:

WHAAAAAT! KMS IS THE SHIT! That funky ass beat and Al's vocals make that shit HOT LIKE FIYUH!