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Thread started 04/30/06 1:18pm

heartbeatocean

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Norwegian Death Metal

What's all this about burning churches?
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Reply #1 posted 04/30/06 1:58pm

CaptainJack

There's no one burning chruches in Norway.
And there are no polar bears walking the streets either.
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/06 3:20pm

Novabreaker

You're mixing up Death Metal with Black Metal there.
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Reply #3 posted 04/30/06 3:22pm

heartbeatocean

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I didn't think there were polar bears walking the streets. But I saw a documentary recently which mentioned several historic churches burnt to the ground near Bergen, tied to the death metal movement. Could be a myth, but it was on mainstream news and several death metal musicians have come out in support of it.
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Reply #4 posted 04/30/06 3:24pm

heartbeatocean

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Novabreaker said:

You're mixing up Death Metal with Black Metal there.


oh, really...? confuse that could be true


There's a new documentary coming out soon called Metal: A Headbanger's Journey that goes into it a bit. One of the most interesting parts of the movie.
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Reply #5 posted 04/30/06 3:30pm

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I got this on Wikepedia:

Black metal is a musical genre which emerged in the early 1980s predating the great expansion of heavy metal 'extreme' genres. Black metal evolved from thrash metal, as did its sister genre death metal.

There are two views on the genre. One views black metal as a very specific form of music that must adhere to a particular 'style' in order for it to be a part of the genre; while the second considers the lyrical and philosophical/political ideology of the music to take more precedence in defining the genre itself, rather than 'style'.

The main originators of black metal are considered to be the bands Venom (who coined the term in 1981 and named their second album Black Metal in 1982), Mercyful Fate, Bathory, Hellhammer, Bulldozer, Celtic Frost and Mayhem. Albums that first sounded like what is generally considered to be black metal today are considered to be the recordings of Bathory in the mid 1980s, most notably Under the Sign of the Black Mark.

Black metal congealed in its current form (known as the second wave of black metal, which is rooted much more heavily in classical musical theory) through the influence of Norwegian bands such as Darkthrone, Enslaved, Burzum, Satyricon, Mayhem, Immortal, and Emperor, who began with the earlier style and introduced elements from mainstream heavy metal, classical music and popularised the style to a growing underground audience. Their influence is most apparent in the Satanic or pagan imagery, anti-Christian lyrics and occult themes.
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/06 3:32pm

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Novabreaker said:

You're mixing up Death Metal with Black Metal there.


Aren't they whiteys?
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Reply #7 posted 04/30/06 3:35pm

damosuzuki

Some demented half-wits in my province apparently were inspired by one of those Norwegian tossers when they took it upon themselves to burn down a church:

http://www.winnipegsun.co...9-sun.html
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Reply #8 posted 04/30/06 4:33pm

heartbeatocean

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damosuzuki said:

Some demented half-wits in my province apparently were inspired by one of those Norwegian tossers when they took it upon themselves to burn down a church:

http://www.winnipegsun.co...9-sun.html


"Vikernes, described as a neo-Nazi, is in prison in Norway serving a lengthy sentence for the 1993 murder of bandmate Oystein Aarseth of the black metal band Mayhem, as well as the arson of several churches and the subsequent death of a firefighter."

They mention this Vikernes guy in the movie and interview a couple others who worship Satan. Their ideology seems to promote some idea of the "Uber-Mensch" with no compassion for the weak.
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Reply #9 posted 04/30/06 10:13pm

Novabreaker

CinisterCee said:

Novabreaker said:

You're mixing up Death Metal with Black Metal there.


Aren't they whiteys?


Well, let me put it this way: very few black metal band members have African origins.
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/06 3:07am

Icicle

heartbeatocean said:

damosuzuki said:

Some demented half-wits in my province apparently were inspired by one of those Norwegian tossers when they took it upon themselves to burn down a church:

http://www.winnipegsun.co...9-sun.html


"Vikernes, described as a neo-Nazi, is in prison in Norway serving a lengthy sentence for the 1993 murder of bandmate Oystein Aarseth of the black metal band Mayhem, as well as the arson of several churches and the subsequent death of a firefighter."

They mention this Vikernes guy in the movie and interview a couple others who worship Satan. Their ideology seems to promote some idea of the "Uber-Mensch" with no compassion for the weak.

http://burzum.org/
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