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PrintableHeiress said: JediMaster said:  Maybe your friend has been holding out on you! You'll have to ask him why you haven't received an invitation to his wedding!  Well, he did say he'd found someone special recently...
Yeah where is my invitation? 
I'll bet they play good music at the reception, at least!  Be sure to tell us all what Elton wears to the wedding (you know he's invited).
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JediMaster said: Heiress said: Well, he did say he'd found someone special recently...
Yeah where is my invitation?
I'll bet they play good music at the reception, at least! Be sure to tell us all what Elton wears to the wedding (you know he's invited).well, if my invitation ever arrives, i'm sure we'll all be consulting each other in advance on such important matters. | |
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Heiress said: JediMaster said: Be sure to tell us all what Elton wears to the wedding (you know he's invited).well, if my invitation ever arrives, i'm sure we'll all be consulting each other in advance on such important matters. 
You SO have to show your friend this thread (well, at least all the parts that don't relate to Gold319's posts). It would be sooo funny, especially if he's straight!
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Isel said: ehuffnsd said: what's funny is there is no seperation of Church and State in the UK the Chruch of England is the offical State Church and the ruling Monarch is the head of the country and the Church. The States has much to learn. Ah yes, the British are SOOOOO evolved. Concerning the "monarchy," I understand about tradition, but couldn’t public monies allocated to support Prince Charles and Co. be spent elsewhere to address some other “issues”??? Hasn't that debate also been circulating in G.B. for a while? And true, G.B. has “legalized” gay marriage, but that law was just recently passed, correct? So since Great Britain is certainly more “evolved” than the U.S., one would have gay marriage would have been legalized for a while. With all due respect, I don’t believe that G.B. is any more “enlightened” or “evolved” than the U.S. on ALL MATTERS necessarily. I’m sure that G.B. has its share of problems, too. I’m not usually so disrespectful because, having lived in France, I certainly admire other cultures. I always have. But frankly, I’m a little tired of people taking shots at the U.S. while ignoring the fact that other countries has their share of problems as well. Granted, as a Democrat, I’m not happy with the Bush administration in general and obviously this gay marriage issue is just the tip of the iceberg for me. I’m also extremely concerned about the “health care” crisis, the plight of the working poor and unacceptable poverty in this country as well as the war in Iraq in addition to many, many other issues concerning national security, education, environment, international relations, finance, etc. But at least here in the U.S. we have the opportunity to take control of the situation through becoming more politically active: we MUST exercise our right to vote in local, state AS WELL AS national elections. That’s what the “evangelical” churches have done. They have hijacked the voting process because the rest of us have become complacent. Those of us who DON’T confuse social policy with legislation of morality—and there are many Christians who can make the distinction—have GOT to make their voices heard. It’s not ignorance: it’s apathy or maybe an acceptance of the status quo that is hurting this country. It’s being so caught-up in our own lives that we don’t make an effort to make changes in our government because some of those changes might not APPEAR to impact us on a daily basis but philosophically-speaking some legislation whether AGAINST CERTAIN GROUPS or lack of support for others contradicts the principles on which the United States was founded--liberty and justice for ALL. Consequently, the United States as we BELIEVED it to be, does NOT exist for ANYONE. Anyway, I apologize for my disrespect earlier, but in spite of all of its flaws, the United States is a great country. I’ve traveled around a bit, and as much as I appreciate other cultures, I would never leave the U.S. by choice. In fact, if circumstances forced me to leave, I would still love my country while at the same time being quite aware of its flaws. The truth is that NO SOCIETY is perfect: utopias do NOT exist. At least here in the U.S. we have the freedom to express our views and the power to make changes. But that power can only come from us, and right now as much as people gripe, SOME OF THOSE very same people don’t take any action to make changes. Maybe by the next election, voters will be so disgusted with this conservative agenda that they will make their voices heard. [Edited 12/2/05 7:08am] i was just talking about seperation of Church and State. England has a state Church but you don't see it out there trying to force the lawmakers to do a certain thing. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Isel said: Ah yes, the British are SOOOOO evolved. Concerning the "monarchy," I understand about tradition, but couldn’t public monies allocated to support Prince Charles and Co. be spent elsewhere to address some other “issues”??? Hasn't that debate also been circulating in G.B. for a while? And true, G.B. has “legalized” gay marriage, but that law was just recently passed, correct? So since Great Britain is certainly more “evolved” than the U.S., one would have gay marriage would have been legalized for a while. With all due respect, I don’t believe that G.B. is any more “enlightened” or “evolved” than the U.S. on ALL MATTERS necessarily. I’m sure that G.B. has its share of problems, too. I’m not usually so disrespectful because, having lived in France, I certainly admire other cultures. I always have. But frankly, I’m a little tired of people taking shots at the U.S. while ignoring the fact that other countries has their share of problems as well. Granted, as a Democrat, I’m not happy with the Bush administration in general and obviously this gay marriage issue is just the tip of the iceberg for me. I’m also extremely concerned about the “health care” crisis, the plight of the working poor and unacceptable poverty in this country as well as the war in Iraq in addition to many, many other issues concerning national security, education, environment, international relations, finance, etc. But at least here in the U.S. we have the opportunity to take control of the situation through becoming more politically active: we MUST exercise our right to vote in local, state AS WELL AS national elections. That’s what the “evangelical” churches have done. They have hijacked the voting process because the rest of us have become complacent. Those of us who DON’T confuse social policy with legislation of morality—and there are many Christians who can make the distinction—have GOT to make their voices heard. It’s not ignorance: it’s apathy or maybe an acceptance of the status quo that is hurting this country. It’s being so caught-up in our own lives that we don’t make an effort to make changes in our government because some of those changes might not APPEAR to impact us on a daily basis but philosophically-speaking some legislation whether AGAINST CERTAIN GROUPS or lack of support for others contradicts the principles on which the United States was founded--liberty and justice for ALL. Consequently, the United States as we BELIEVED it to be, does NOT exist for ANYONE. Anyway, I apologize for my disrespect earlier, but in spite of all of its flaws, the United States is a great country. I’ve traveled around a bit, and as much as I appreciate other cultures, I would never leave the U.S. by choice. In fact, if circumstances forced me to leave, I would still love my country while at the same time being quite aware of its flaws. The truth is that NO SOCIETY is perfect: utopias do NOT exist. At least here in the U.S. we have the freedom to express our views and the power to make changes. But that power can only come from us, and right now as much as people gripe, SOME OF THOSE very same people don’t take any action to make changes. Maybe by the next election, voters will be so disgusted with this conservative agenda that they will make their voices heard. [Edited 12/2/05 7:08am] i was just talking about seperation of Church and State. England has a state Church but you don't see it out there trying to force the lawmakers to do a certain thing. Well, that's not ALWAYS been the case in England. And here in the U.S., it's not really ALL Christians who are trying to force their will upon people. It' really only a certain groups fundamentalist groups. It's very dangerous really because then we lose focus on other more concrete issues by engaging in this morality debate which really has no answer except MAYBE on religious terms, and I'm not so sure about that either. As I said in my original post, the whole debate revolves around the word "marriage" really. I think it's only a matter of time that civil unions will be legislated for gay couples. I don't know if the legal definition of marriage will ever change though coz I looked it up in Black's Law dictionary, and by law marriage is defined as a union between a man and woman even though in the dictionary the word union alone is one of the definitions. I think the word "marriage" is going to have to be challenged as far as constitutionality before that will ever change, and that is NOT going to happen because people are too afraid to take a stand. So in the meantime, civil union would be a perfect solution. In fact, I believe even Bush supports civil unions. Right now, there is similar debate about Christmas vs Holiday trees. The long and short of it is that some Christians seem to believe that their faith is being or "threatened" by the government when it really shouldn't have been involved in legislation to begin with. I'm a Christian, and I don't have any problem with the term Holiday tree because it's still a Christmas tree to me. For others who celebrate the season but who aren't Christians well then it's a Holiday tree just representative of a season for giving... nothing more, nothing less. The term Holiday tree is just more inclusive of all groups. Yes, it might be an issue of ":politically correctness," but the truth is that not everyone in the U.S. is Christian, so why not just celebrate the season?? It's really a "shift" in thinking that many people are able to make right now. It's about giving-up a tradition, but more importantly "power" and perhaps "dominance" to celebrate EVERYONE'S faith in God or maybe just in man. I think that many Christians here in the U.S. are just afraid for some reason. But we are free to follow any faith that we choose. It's just the matter of not forcing other people explicitly or implicitly to accept just Christianity or maybe single interpretation of it. | |
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Isel said: ehuffnsd said: i was just talking about seperation of Church and State. England has a state Church but you don't see it out there trying to force the lawmakers to do a certain thing. Well, that's not ALWAYS been the case in England. And here in the U.S., it's not really ALL Christians who are trying to force their will upon people. It' really only a certain groups fundamentalist groups. It's very dangerous really because then we lose focus on other more concrete issues by engaging in this morality debate which really has no answer except MAYBE on religious terms, and I'm not so sure about that either. As I said in my original post, the whole debate revolves around the word "marriage" really. I think it's only a matter of time that civil unions will be legislated for gay couples. I don't know if the legal definition of marriage will ever change though coz I looked it up in Black's Law dictionary, and by law marriage is defined as a union between a man and woman even though in the dictionary the word union alone is one of the definitions. I think the word "marriage" is going to have to be challenged as far as constitutionality before that will ever change, and that is NOT going to happen because people are too afraid to take a stand. So in the meantime, civil union would be a perfect solution. In fact, I believe even Bush supports civil unions. Right now, there is similar debate about Christmas vs Holiday trees. The long and short of it is that some Christians seem to believe that their faith is being or "threatened" by the government when it really shouldn't have been involved in legislation to begin with. I'm a Christian, and I don't have any problem with the term Holiday tree because it's still a Christmas tree to me. For others who celebrate the season but who aren't Christians well then it's a Holiday tree just representative of a season for giving... nothing more, nothing less. The term Holiday tree is just more inclusive of all groups. Yes, it might be an issue of ":politically correctness," but the truth is that not everyone in the U.S. is Christian, so why not just celebrate the season?? It's really a "shift" in thinking that many people are able to make right now. It's about giving-up a tradition, but more importantly "power" and perhaps "dominance" to celebrate EVERYONE'S faith in God or maybe just in man. I think that many Christians here in the U.S. are just afraid for some reason. But we are free to follow any faith that we choose. It's just the matter of not forcing other people explicitly or implicitly to accept just Christianity or maybe single interpretation of it. the funny thing about Christmas tree's are they were orginally part of the Yule tradition that predates Christmas You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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JediMaster said: As a God-loving, spiritual Christian, I just wanna say
CONGRATS TO KENNY AND GEORGE!!!!! Glad they have found love and a close personal bond. May they have a life of happiness and prosperity. The same here! I hope they have many great years of joy and happiness together. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Gold319 said: GangstaFam said: Ask any gay person and they'll tell you that they've had feelings for the same sex as far back as they can remember. So obviously, they were born that way. Did your God create them with these characteristics, just to damn them to hell? It's very simple. NO. It's natural. It might not be the norm or in your comfort zone, but it's a perfectly normal life to live. No it is NOT natural!! Way back in the beginning when God created the first human couple, which by the way were MALE AND FEMALE, 2 SEPERATE HUMANS, he inteneded it 2 b that way for all eternity!!! He said in the Bible in the first book of Genesis "Let us make mankind in our OWN IMAGE" God was not gay, neither were his angels!!!! God created them perfect in every way!!! It is only when the first human couple failed a simple test and said 2 God that they could live their lives devoid of God and His ways that they were cast out of Eden and they severed their ties with God that mankind throughout time have gone against his Laws that we now get gay lifestyles, etc. out of pure evilness and rebeliousness!!! It is not natural!!! Whe people now are born they are born in Gods image but as they get older they develope their God-given Free Will, but they twist it and abuse this free will by living their own ways devoid of God to their detriment!!!!  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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As handsome as George Michael is, I would think he would find someone better looking.  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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IstenSzek said: meow85 said: Back to the topic at hand:
Congrats, George and Kenny!  I'm happy for you.
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vainandy said: As handsome as George Michael is, I would think he would find someone better looking.
HELLO! I think everyone should be allowed to find a loving and respectful partner wherever they want to find one----and additionally, the superficial, boorish side of me gives not a hoot as to what sex George is rather than thinking he is sooo handsome he needs someone just as easy on the eyes as he is...jeezus, when I was young I worked for stylists that would make old boy of his pale in comparison- but since the idea is about not focusing on the SURFACE, but spending your years with the one who loves and supports you  ..... | |
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Bottoms Up!
Wonder what diseases they may encounter? A big disease with a little name.. STAY TUNED! | |
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Thumparello said:
Wonder what diseases they may encounter? A big disease with a little name.. How is someone supposed to get a disease simply from being married? The only big disease with a little name that anyone ever got from marriage is "DULL". If George Michael was to get a disease, he would come a hell a lot closer getting it if he was single than if he's married. Young straight people are the main ones getting AIDS these days because they are still ignorant thinking it's a gay disease. Gay people have been there, done that, and know what to do to keep from getting it. George and his partner will be encountering the same diseases that any straight married couple have encountered. If neither he, nor his partner, don't have any diseases and don't cheat on each other, they won't encounter any diseases. A man doesn't get AIDS just because he sleeps with another man. A man gets AIDS because he sleeps with a man or woman that has AIDS. If George Michael wants to live the nice quiet dull life and possibly be exposed to gold diggers who can legally get half his stuff, he should have the same right as everyone else. I personally think marriage takes away from the glamor of the gay lifestyle but I'm definately for gay people getting married if they choose to because it's a matter of equal rights. And if it pisses some people off in the process, that's just an extra good little bonus. . . [Edited 12/4/05 15:07pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Thumparello said: Bottoms Up!
Wonder what diseases they may encounter? A big disease with a little name.. STAY TUNED! WTF are you trying to say !! they have been together almost 10 years. You Homophobe [Edited 12/4/05 15:00pm] Guess that I'll stay at home
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vainandy said: As handsome as George Michael is, I would think he would find someone better looking.
Frankly, GM is lucky to find someone that will put up with his crap for 10 years, let alone want to marry him.* lol *GM is very handsome but I really don't like some of the statements that come out of his mouth. | |
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congrats to George!! | |
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Gold319 said: This world is just like Sodom and Gommorrah now!! Full of debauchery and wantonness!!
People nowadays dont want 2 follow Gods Laws on sex because its just TOO BORING and restrictive for them and it also involves self-control which most people dont have nowadays!!!! We should all get back 2 basics, I think for the common good of all mankind!!! People that say stuff like that must be great in bed.... | |
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Gold319 said: GangstaFam said: Ask any gay person and they'll tell you that they've had feelings for the same sex as far back as they can remember. So obviously, they were born that way. Did your God create them with these characteristics, just to damn them to hell? It's very simple. NO. It's natural. It might not be the norm or in your comfort zone, but it's a perfectly normal life to live. No it is NOT natural!! Way back in the beginning when God created the first human couple, which by the way were MALE AND FEMALE, 2 SEPERATE HUMANS, he inteneded it 2 b that way for all eternity!!! He said in the Bible in the first book of Genesis "Let us make mankind in our OWN IMAGE" God was not gay, neither were his angels!!!! God created them perfect in every way!!! It is only when the first human couple failed a simple test and said 2 God that they could live their lives devoid of God and His ways that they were cast out of Eden and they severed their ties with God that mankind throughout time have gone against his Laws that we now get gay lifestyles, etc. out of pure evilness and rebeliousness!!! It is not natural!!! Whe people now are born they are born in Gods image but as they get older they develope their God-given Free Will, but they twist it and abuse this free will by living their own ways devoid of God to their detriment!!!! So know you know what God looks like? Was he black, white....was God a man or woman? If God was fat, is it unnatural for people to be skinny? | |
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CHIC0 said: 
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Congratulations to George and Kenny! 
(George's music's still rubbish though) | |
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Congradulations, Good for them [ZUNECARD]MikeChristopher[/ZUNECARD] | |
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Gold319 said: This world is just like Sodom and Gommorrah now!! Full of debauchery and wantonness!!
People nowadays dont want 2 follow Gods Laws on sex because its just TOO BORING and restrictive for them and it also involves self-control which most people dont have nowadays!!!! We should all get back 2 basics, I think for the common good of all mankind!!! and God knows we need that and those that use the system are exempt! You must know you need to work on the home before you can see clearly how to branch out no? | |
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Natisse said: CHIC0 said:
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