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Reply #90 posted 11/30/05 10:40am

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Gold319 said:

By the way, God destroyed Sodom and Gommorrah, much like hes gonna destroy this world cos of its sex depravation alone, let alone other things!!!!

To me this just shows what sort of mindset u all have on here!!!



i think u need to eat some pussy.


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Reply #91 posted 11/30/05 10:43am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:


falloff ...and before ya ask around for some, gold, mine's absolutely off-limits. don't get any bright ideas. it's folks like you who have such closed-minded views on homosexuality who should be damned.

as for the grooms-to-be: woot!



well that blows that idea razz

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Reply #92 posted 11/30/05 1:43pm

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Gold319 said:

This world is just like Sodom and Gommorrah now!! Full of debauchery and wantonness!!

People nowadays dont want 2 follow Gods Laws on sex because its just TOO BORING and restrictive for them and it also involves self-control which most people dont have nowadays!!!!

We should all get back 2 basics, I think for the common good of all mankind!!!

Folks,this isn't the year 2005 but we're back in 1305!
I just CAN'T believe there are still people who are so narrow-minded!
O-MY-GOD!!!
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Reply #93 posted 11/30/05 1:54pm

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Gold319 said:

This world is just like Sodom and Gommorrah now!! Full of debauchery and wantonness!!

People nowadays dont want 2 follow Gods Laws on sex because its just TOO BORING and restrictive for them and it also involves self-control which most people dont have nowadays!!!!

We should all get back 2 basics, I think for the common good of all mankind!!!



Lord knows George has got many many problems but his being gay and wanting to marry his boyfriend is not one of them. I would like to see Georgie tarred and feathered and run over by a bus but if a bloke wants to marry another bloke,who the hell cares? I'm just worried for that poor Texas chap who is about to wed the most boring man in the history of the civilized world.

Live and let live, mate.
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Reply #94 posted 11/30/05 6:31pm

CHIC0

eek 'the hell happened to this thread!!!!!????? eek
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Reply #95 posted 11/30/05 6:35pm

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CHIC0 said:

eek 'the hell happened to this thread!!!!!????? eek

beats the hell outta me. all i remember is clicking on this thread to say "yay!", then i noticed that gold319 opened her mouth and said something bad enough to get snipped...and all hell had broken loose.

sigh
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Reply #96 posted 11/30/05 6:38pm

CHIC0

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CHIC0 said:

eek 'the hell happened to this thread!!!!!????? eek

beats the hell outta me. all i remember is clicking on this thread to say "yay!", then i noticed that gold319 opened her mouth and said something bad enough to get snipped...and all hell had broken loose.

sigh



after the third or fourth post i thought i had clicked on the P&R forum. lol
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Reply #97 posted 11/30/05 6:40pm

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CHIC0 said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


beats the hell outta me. all i remember is clicking on this thread to say "yay!", then i noticed that gold319 opened her mouth and said something bad enough to get snipped...and all hell had broken loose.

sigh



after the third or fourth post i thought i had clicked on the P&R forum. lol

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Reply #98 posted 11/30/05 9:34pm

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i should have known that this wasn't in the "most active" thread list because there were a bunch of people upset that george was off the market rolleyes
congratulations to them, and to elton... rose
i just wish elton and david would have taken their vowes in canada since it's been legal here for quite a while already!
that would have been cool for mr. tantrum to wear his tiara here woot!
doveShe couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay dove
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Reply #99 posted 11/30/05 11:05pm

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The sad thing is that the reactions she got here won't do anything but strengthen her resolve. disbelief
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Reply #100 posted 12/01/05 2:11am

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Reply #101 posted 12/01/05 2:14am

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I must admit, that when I clicked on this I didn't know about the new laws in GB and I thought George had yet again switched teams. lol
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Reply #102 posted 12/01/05 4:03am

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The sad thing is that the reactions she got here won't do anything but strengthen her resolve. disbelief


And the other sad thing is she enjoys the attention, negative or positive (doubt we will ever see the latter)..obviously it is some kind of disorder which I doubt she will ever realise and get something done about it..a complete waste of life if you ask me.
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Reply #103 posted 12/01/05 4:32am

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biggrin Nice to see George happy again worship
Guess that I'll stay at home
All alone and play my tamborine
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Reply #104 posted 12/01/05 6:56am

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Heiress said:

I must admit, that when I clicked on this I didn't know about the new laws in GB and I thought George had yet again switched teams. lol


lol
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Reply #105 posted 12/01/05 9:52am

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Good for him. I hope they´ll be happy.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #106 posted 12/01/05 10:08am

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yay!!! go GM and Kenny!!
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Reply #107 posted 12/01/05 10:11am

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Isel said:

Gold319 said:



No it is NOT natural!! Way back in the beginning when God created the first human couple, which by the way were MALE AND FEMALE, 2 SEPERATE HUMANS, he inteneded it 2 b that way for all eternity!!! He said in the Bible in the first book of Genesis "Let us make mankind in our OWN IMAGE" God was not gay, neither were his angels!!!! God created them perfect in every way!!!

It is only when the first human couple failed a simple test and said 2 God that they could live their lives devoid of God and His ways that they were cast out of Eden and they severed their ties with God that mankind throughout time have gone against his Laws that we now get gay lifestyles, etc. out of pure evilness and rebeliousness!!!

It is not natural!!! Whe people now are born they are born in Gods image but as they get older they develope their God-given Free Will, but they twist it and abuse this free will by living their own ways devoid of God to their detriment!!!!


So living a lie is more natural or acceptable? So basically if one is a literalist as far as Biblical interpretation, then gays are caught-up in this no-win situation anyway.

As far as a "civil unions," what is the problem?? Isn't there a separation of church and state? So really how do civil unions under the law for ALL couples conflict with any religious beliefs? Frankly, there are so many other political issues to talk about. In a recent election here is Texas, of course the gay-marrriage ban was one of MANY issues being considered. We received phone calls and emails about banning gay marriage issue (primarily to vote in support of the ban), but not one about the issues on that ballot concerning financing and the environment that DIRECTLY AFFECT US--NOT ONE!! (FYI:Of course Texas passed the amendment banning gay marriage even though there is already laws in place, however unenforced and archaic,concerning the lifestyle. Just for the record, in Travis County --Austin and the surrounding area-- we voted AGAINST the amendment.) It's just always interesting to me that no other "issue" was even addressed in the media. We didn't receive phone calls to support funding for environmental protection, etc.

Furthermore, if some people believe that homosexuality is a sin, then why not campaign for amendments banning other "sins"??? I wonder if there would be such support for an amendment banning divorce, for example?? In addition, I haven't received any phone calls about that or other "sexually" related transgressions. Ironically, it's just same-sex couples, wanting to make a COMMITMENT to each other, who seem to be singled-out to preserve the "sanctity" of a word at the expense of denying a group equal rights. And if religious beliefs are at its premise, the argument to ban gay "marriage" is inherently unconstitutional and obviously discriminatory because there IS a separation between church and state in this country for this very reason in order to protect the rights of EVERYONE, regardless of religious beliefs or lack thereof, and promote the common good.

Well, as someone as already mentioned, the morality of homosexuality has been (and I'm sure will be) discussed ad nauseam in the P&R section. There have been some pretty heated, but interesting debates.
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what's funny is there is no seperation of Church and State in the UK the Chruch of England is the offical State Church and the ruling Monarch is the head of the country and the Church.

The States has much to learn.
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Reply #108 posted 12/01/05 2:08pm

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The sad thing is that the reactions she got here won't do anything but strengthen her resolve. disbelief

That's what I was thinking.
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Reply #109 posted 12/01/05 6:51pm

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Heiress said:

I must admit, that when I clicked on this I didn't know about the new laws in GB and I thought George had yet again switched teams. lol

lol Me too!


But whatevs. Be it with a man or a woman, I hope the big day's fantastic. biggrin
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Reply #110 posted 12/01/05 7:39pm

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Gold319 said:


No it is NOT natural!! Way back in the beginning when God created the first human couple, which by the way were MALE AND FEMALE, 2 SEPERATE HUMANS, he inteneded it 2 b that way for all eternity!!!


Using the Bible to support your homophobia is weak because, frankly, the Bible is full of a lot of crap. doody For example, according to the Bible, "back in the beginning" people in the Bible married their sisters. Do you consider that natural?
a) Genesis 4 (New Int'l Version): If Cain and Abel were the only sons of Adam & Eve where did Cain find a wife? Was it his mother (Eve) or an unnamed sister?
b)Genesis 20:11-12 (New Int'l Version): Abraham replied, "I said to myself, 'There is surely no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife.' Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.

Gold319 said:


He said in the Bible in the first book of Genesis "Let us make mankind in our OWN IMAGE" God was not gay, neither were his angels!!!! God created them perfect in every way!!!


The bolded statement is also incorrect. Angels (if they exist) are sexless--without gender. According to the Bible "stories", angels do not procreate, thus they don't need a gender. If they don't have a gender they can't be straight or gay. Following your (il)logic, one could even argue that angels probably ARE gay because they can't procreate...just like gays technically can't procreate with each other. rolleyes

The bottom line is that the Bible (like religion) is full of hypocrisy and you can probably find verses that support both sides of any arguement.

Also, didn't your buddy JC talk about loving your neighbor as yourself...imo, your behavior is not very "neighborly."
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #111 posted 12/01/05 7:46pm

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woot! for George and Kenny--although it pretty much crushes the life long dream I've had of becoming Mrs. George Michael. sigh
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #112 posted 12/01/05 8:06pm

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I trip out how a "Prince music" message board can be so conservative, the peeps on Amy Grants board i'm sure are a little more chilled.
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Reply #113 posted 12/01/05 8:11pm

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twink69 said:

I trip out how a "Prince music" message board can be so conservative, the peeps on Amy Grants board i'm sure are a little more chilled.


lol
There's really only one nutjob on this thread doing all the yelling.
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Reply #114 posted 12/01/05 8:28pm

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Gold319 said:

It is not natural!!! Whe people now are born they are born in Gods image but as they get older they develope their God-given Free Will, but they twist it and abuse this free will by living their own ways devoid of God to their detriment!!!!




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Reply #115 posted 12/02/05 3:08am

Heiress

meow85 said:

Heiress said:

I must admit, that when I clicked on this I didn't know about the new laws in GB and I thought George had yet again switched teams. lol

lol Me too!


But whatevs. Be it with a man or a woman, I hope the big day's fantastic. biggrin


Must also say that what shocked me here is that George's partner looks EXACTLY but EXACTLY like a good friend of mine. eek I must see other pictures to know if it's true or just a coincidence or what...
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Reply #116 posted 12/02/05 5:34am

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neutral


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Reply #117 posted 12/02/05 6:00am

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Heiress said:

meow85 said:


lol Me too!


But whatevs. Be it with a man or a woman, I hope the big day's fantastic. biggrin


Must also say that what shocked me here is that George's partner looks EXACTLY but EXACTLY like a good friend of mine. eek I must see other pictures to know if it's true or just a coincidence or what...


hmmm Maybe your friend has been holding out on you! You'll have to ask him why you haven't received an invitation to his wedding! giggle
jedi

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Reply #118 posted 12/02/05 6:06am

Heiress

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Heiress said:



Must also say that what shocked me here is that George's partner looks EXACTLY but EXACTLY like a good friend of mine. eek I must see other pictures to know if it's true or just a coincidence or what...


hmmm Maybe your friend has been holding out on you! You'll have to ask him why you haven't received an invitation to his wedding! giggle


Well, he did say he'd found someone special recently...hmmm

Yeah where is my invitation? mad

I'll bet they play good music at the reception, at least!
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Reply #119 posted 12/02/05 6:14am

Isel

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Isel said:



So living a lie is more natural or acceptable? So basically if one is a literalist as far as Biblical interpretation, then gays are caught-up in this no-win situation anyway.

As far as a "civil unions," what is the problem?? Isn't there a separation of church and state? So really how do civil unions under the law for ALL couples conflict with any religious beliefs? Frankly, there are so many other political issues to talk about. In a recent election here is Texas, of course the gay-marrriage ban was one of MANY issues being considered. We received phone calls and emails about banning gay marriage issue (primarily to vote in support of the ban), but not one about the issues on that ballot concerning financing and the environment that DIRECTLY AFFECT US--NOT ONE!! (FYI:Of course Texas passed the amendment banning gay marriage even though there is already laws in place, however unenforced and archaic,concerning the lifestyle. Just for the record, in Travis County --Austin and the surrounding area-- we voted AGAINST the amendment.) It's just always interesting to me that no other "issue" was even addressed in the media. We didn't receive phone calls to support funding for environmental protection, etc.

Furthermore, if some people believe that homosexuality is a sin, then why not campaign for amendments banning other "sins"??? I wonder if there would be such support for an amendment banning divorce, for example?? In addition, I haven't received any phone calls about that or other "sexually" related transgressions. Ironically, it's just same-sex couples, wanting to make a COMMITMENT to each other, who seem to be singled-out to preserve the "sanctity" of a word at the expense of denying a group equal rights. And if religious beliefs are at its premise, the argument to ban gay "marriage" is inherently unconstitutional and obviously discriminatory because there IS a separation between church and state in this country for this very reason in order to protect the rights of EVERYONE, regardless of religious beliefs or lack thereof, and promote the common good.

Well, as someone as already mentioned, the morality of homosexuality has been (and I'm sure will be) discussed ad nauseam in the P&R section. There have been some pretty heated, but interesting debates.
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what's funny is there is no seperation of Church and State in the UK the Chruch of England is the offical State Church and the ruling Monarch is the head of the country and the Church.

The States has much to learn.


Ah yes, the British are SOOOOO evolved. Concerning the "monarchy," I understand about tradition, but couldn’t public monies allocated to support Prince Charles and Co. be spent elsewhere to address some other “issues”??? Hasn't that debate also been circulating in G.B. for a while? And true, G.B. has “legalized” gay marriage, but that law was just recently passed, correct? So since Great Britain is certainly more “evolved” than the U.S., one would have gay marriage would have been legalized for a while. With all due respect, I don’t believe that G.B. is any more “enlightened” or “evolved” than the U.S. on ALL MATTERS necessarily. I’m sure that G.B. has its share of problems, too. I’m not usually so disrespectful because, having lived in France, I certainly admire other cultures. I always have. But frankly, I’m a little tired of people taking shots at the U.S. while ignoring the fact that other countries has their share of problems as well.

Granted, as a Democrat, I’m not happy with the Bush administration in general and obviously this gay marriage issue is just the tip of the iceberg for me. I’m also extremely concerned about the “health care” crisis, the plight of the working poor and unacceptable poverty in this country as well as the war in Iraq in addition to many, many other issues concerning national security, education, environment, international relations, finance, etc. But at least here in the U.S. we have the opportunity to take control of the situation through becoming more politically active: we MUST exercise our right to vote in local, state AS WELL AS national elections. That’s what the “evangelical” churches have done. They have hijacked the voting process because the rest of us have become complacent. Those of us who DON’T confuse social policy with legislation of morality—and there are many Christians who can make the distinction—have GOT to make their voices heard. It’s not ignorance: it’s apathy or maybe an acceptance of the status quo that is hurting this country. It’s being so caught-up in our own lives that we don’t make an effort to make changes in our government because some of those changes might not APPEAR to impact us on a daily basis but philosophically-speaking some legislation whether AGAINST CERTAIN GROUPS or lack of support for others contradicts the principles on which the United States was founded--liberty and justice for ALL. Consequently, the United States as we BELIEVED it to be, does NOT exist for ANYONE.

Anyway, I apologize for my disrespect earlier, but in spite of all of its flaws, the United States is a great country. I’ve traveled around a bit, and as much as I appreciate other cultures, I would never leave the U.S. by choice. In fact, if circumstances forced me to leave, I would still love my country while at the same time being quite aware of its flaws. The truth is that NO SOCIETY is perfect: utopias do NOT exist. At least here in the U.S. we have the freedom to express our views and the power to make changes. But that power can only come from us, and right now as much as people gripe, SOME OF THOSE very same people don’t take any action to make changes. Maybe by the next election, voters will be so disgusted with this conservative agenda that they will make their voices heard.
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