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Thread started 11/19/05 2:59pm

HamsterHuey

Rick Rubin Does Neil Diamond...

So, after squeezing a fitting finale of cd's out of Johnny Cash, Rick Rubin has produced the latest album by another oldie, my old time fave Neil Diamond...

Has anyone heard 12 Songs? I am very curious, as I haven't heard the album yet and I am hella curious.

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Reply #1 posted 11/19/05 8:55pm

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From Allmusic.com - ****/5

Review by Stephen Thomas Erlewine
Calling 12 Songs Neil Diamond's best album in three decades may be a little misleading: truth be told, it doesn't have much competition in his discography. While Diamond never stopped making albums, he did seem progressively less interested in recording sometime after the Robbie Robertson-produced 1976 album Beautiful Noise. Following that weird, ambitious album, he pursued a slicker, streamlined course and started writing less original material. For a while, this paid off great commercial dividends, culminating in his 1980 remake of the Al Jolson film The Jazz Singer, but after 1982's Heartlight he slowly drifted off the pop charts. Over the next two decades, he toured regularly, turning out a new album every three or four years, and their patchwork nature of a few covers and a few originals suggested that Diamond wasn't as engaged in either the writing or recording process as he was at the peak of his career. With 2001's Three Chord Opera he delivered his first album of all-original material since Beautiful Noise, which was also his first non-concept album since 1991's Lovescape (he spent the interim cutting theme albums, such as a record devoted to Brill Building pop or a country-oriented collection). While it was uneven, it did suggest that Diamond was re-engaging with both writing and recording, and as he prepared material for a new record, he received word that producer Rick Rubin — the man responsible for Johnny Cash's acclaimed '90s comeback, American Recordings — was interested in working with him, and the two combined for the project that turned out to be 12 Songs.

Rubin was the first producer to push Diamond since Robbie Robertson, but where Robertson indulged the singer/songwriter, Rubin drove Neil to strip his music down to his essence. As Diamond's candid liner notes reveal, Rubin wasn't a co-writer, he was a precise and exacting editor, encouraging Neil to rework songs, abandon some tunes, and to keep writing. The process worked, as Diamond wound up with a set of 12 songs (actually, 13 on the special edition that contains two bonus tracks, including an alternate version of "Delirious Love" featuring a delirious Brian Wilson contribution) that result in his most consistent set of songs ever. This is entirely Rubin's doing, since he's the first producer to exercise such tight control over one of Diamond's albums. Where Tom Catalano, the producer of Neil's '60s and early-'70s work, let Diamond indulge in flights of fancy and sheer weirdness, Rubin keeps him on a tight leash, only allowing a couple of light, cheerful songs into the finished product. Instead of encouraging Neil to write these rollicking, effortlessly hooky pop songs, Rubin brings the moody undercurrents of "Girl, You'll Be a Woman Soon" and "Solitary Man" to the forefront, pushing Diamond toward somber, introspective territory that his music suggested but never truly explored in the past. To highlight this mood, Rubin keeps the arrangements spare, even skeletal, reminiscent of the monochromatic nature of his Cash collaborations. 12 Songs also shares with American Recordings a creeping sense of mortality, but where that sounded natural coming from Johnny Cash, it's slightly affected here, since even when Diamond attempts to reach inward it's offset by his natural inclination toward hamminess. And that flair for the theatrical almost begs out for arrangements that are a little bit more fleshed out than what's here — not something as slickly cold as what he did in the late '70s, but something similar to the rich yet fruity orchestrations Catalano brought to Diamond's best songs.

But if 12 Songs does occasionally come across as slightly affected in its intent and presentation, it also is inarguably Neil Diamond's best set of songs in a long, long time. Diamond's writing is not only more ambitious than it has been in years, but it's also more fully realized; the songs are tightly written, with the melodies bringing out the emotions in the lyrics. Similarly, Diamond also sounds engaged as a performer, singing with passion and unexpected understatement; it's his most controlled, varied vocal performance ever, and even if Rubin's production is a bit too stark, it does force listeners to concentrate on the songs, which makes this a better case for Diamond's talents as a songwriter than most of his other albums. And that's why 12 Songs is, in a way, even more welcome than American Recordings. Where Cash's comeback confirmed what everybody already knew about him, this presents a side of Neil Diamond that's never been heard on record and, in the process, it offers a new way of looking at the rest of his catalog — which is a pretty remarkable achievement, but the best thing about 12 Songs is that it's simply one of the most entertaining, satisfying albums Diamond has ever released.
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Reply #2 posted 11/20/05 12:01am

GangstaFam

Is that Tricky in your avatar?
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Reply #3 posted 11/20/05 7:16pm

CinisterCee

Shapeshifter said:

Rubin drove Neil to strip his music down to his essence.


Which is what Rick does best.
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Reply #4 posted 11/21/05 4:54am

HamsterHuey

CinisterCee said:

Shapeshifter said:

Rubin drove Neil to strip his music down to his essence.


Which is what Rick does best.


Is what I always liked him for. He is a special force in the music industry.
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Reply #5 posted 11/21/05 6:22am

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im really starting to think rubin is the perfect guy to help prince out of his artistic rut.
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/05 6:27am

HamsterHuey

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im really starting to think rubin is the perfect guy to help prince out of his artistic rut.


Exactly what I proposed some time back. I was laughed at. Ridiculed. Stripped, dipped in tar and rolled through feathers.

Welcome to Org.
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Reply #7 posted 11/21/05 6:30am

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HamsterHuey said:

Stripped, dipped in tar and rolled through feathers.




drool
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/05 6:30am

TheRealFiness

they comin to ameri---kuhhhhh dear christ
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Reply #9 posted 11/21/05 6:48am

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TheRealFiness said:

they comin to ameri---kuhhhhh dear christ


have you heard the new stuff? ive heard bits and pieces and what ive heard is good.
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Reply #10 posted 11/21/05 6:50am

TheRealFiness

sosgemini said:

TheRealFiness said:

they comin to ameri---kuhhhhh dear christ


have you heard the new stuff? ive heard bits and pieces and what ive heard is good.



never been much of a neil diamond cat,his voice is like nails on a chalkboard with me
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Reply #11 posted 11/21/05 7:37am

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TheRealFiness said:

sosgemini said:



have you heard the new stuff? ive heard bits and pieces and what ive heard is good.



never been much of a neil diamond cat,his voice is like nails on a chalkboard with me


same here..however, rubin has removed all that....diamond has been working the news mag circuit and i am blown away by his earlier stuff (back when he was considered the next bob dylan). this new album is a return to that style. i'd recommend at lest giving it a listen online..cause i hated the man but look forward to buying this album.
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Reply #12 posted 11/21/05 1:12pm

CinisterCee

HamsterHuey said:

sosgemini said:

im really starting to think rubin is the perfect guy to help prince out of his artistic rut.


Exactly what I proposed some time back. I was laughed at. Ridiculed. Stripped, dipped in tar and rolled through feathers.

Welcome to Org.


Only because Prince has been such a stubborn cunt since the word "go" and never had a producer (never will?)
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/05 4:41pm

HamsterHuey

CinisterCee said:

HamsterHuey said:



Exactly what I proposed some time back. I was laughed at. Ridiculed. Stripped, dipped in tar and rolled through feathers.

Welcome to Org.


Only because Prince has been such a stubborn cunt since the word "go" and never had a producer (never will?)


He never listens to me. I have got other ideas about his career too!

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Reply #14 posted 11/21/05 4:43pm

HamsterHuey

Anyways, my mom was a big Diamond lover; she has most his albums, but her fave was that double live album.

I love his old stuff, up to the Jazz Singer.
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Reply #15 posted 11/22/05 11:03am

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Neil Diamond is a guilty pleasure of mine. There's no question he's written some good songs with some huge hooks. And I appreciate anyone who's able to be themselves. Look at him in The Last Waltz. Shouldn't he feel ridiculous surrounded by those folks? Nope, he's Neil Diamond.

I'm a Believer
Desiree
Sweet Caroline
Beautiful Noise

good stuff. And he's ripe for a comeback. Rick Rubin's a genius in much the same way as Quentin Tarentino.
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Reply #16 posted 11/23/05 9:43am

HamsterHuey

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Beautiful Noise


Is probably the song i identify with my mum the most.
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