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PrintableJust as an aside, when I was travelling in the Middle East, I met a German couple who were in med school. They worshiped Bob Dylan. In fact, they claimed they learned English by studying his songs. Their English was excellent too.  | |
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heartbeatocean said: I've also never "gotten" Janis Joplin. And I've never been able to listen to enough of her music to even try.
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RipHer2Shreds said: heartbeatocean said: I've also never "gotten" Janis Joplin. And I've never been able to listen to enough of her music to even try.
Funkmistress almost stopped talking to me when I revealed that I felt the same way about Joplin. I know, for some, she attains goddess proportions. I'm just repelled. | |
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billie fucking holliday! i DESPISE her voice! i really dont understand it, and b4 anyone says it (cuz its been said to me b4) DO NOT throw strange fruit in my face! yes great beauiful song, and nina simone does it better.
Just as an aside, when I was travelling in the Middle East, I met a German couple who were in med school. They worshiped Bob Dylan. In fact, they claimed they learned English by studying his songs. Their English was excellent too.
 the power of dylan survives! lol and more power to em cuz as much as i love him i cant understand a word he's sayin sometimes! lol
side note: to the guy who doesnt get janis joplin and the many people who dont get dylan i totally understand, i love them now but when i first heard janis i thought she sounded like a drunk marge simpson! lol, i thought it was SOOOOO horrid. but now i love her, and i think her voice is beautiful. same w/ dylan, my first exposure to him was the movie dangerous minds and i thought hey this sounds kinda nice, so i went and downloaded hey mr tamberine man - i friggin HATE that song!! omg everyother word rhymes and his voice is very annoying in it after a while(not to mention that damn harmonica), but then i heard ballad of a thin man and thats what got me hooked. its true tho, he's not for everyone, not in lyrics or vocal abilities. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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sextonseven said: theAudience said: Pat Boone does all that stuff and better!  u leave the rolling stones alone! 
they were and r better than the beatles. they had more funk. FUNKNROLL! "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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alandail said: I never got Dylan either. I can understand people liking his song-writing, but he flat out can't sing. He gets up there and mumbles and people call it genius.
Supposedly Bob Dylan’s greatest gift to popular music was his use of language, but I find his talents as a performer far more important and compelling. If his songs and words were his only strength, then people would just listen to the thousands of cover versions of his songs in circulation and no one would bother with his records. Like Columbia’s marketing slogan said, nobody sings Dylan like Dylan.
Scoff if you want, but I think Dylan is the finest rock vocalist ever, emphasis placed on “rock”. Could he pull off an album of cole porter standards backed by the Nelson Riddle orchestra? Of course not – but he doesn’t have to. There’s a phrase the Jesus and Mary Chain used once that perfectly describes Dylan’s voice – Barbed Wire Kisses. Even more important than his voice is the incredible sense of timing he possesses. I once heard a lecture on the radio by a professor of music who stated that Dylan’s sense of timing and vocal inflection was only rivaled by Sinatra, and I think that's absolutely spot-on. Just listen to the way he says “Tax deductible charity organization” in Ballad of a Thin Man, or the way he delivers the punch lines in “Leopard-skin Pill-box Hat” (one of the funniest songs ever recorded). Comedians and actors hone their craft for years to sound so natural and relaxed. [Edited 10/4/05 19:09pm] | |
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damosuzuki said: Even more important than his voice is the incredible sense of timing he possesses. I once heard a lecture on the radio by a professor of music who stated that Dylan’s sense of timing and vocal inflection was only rivaled by Sinatra, and I think that's absolutely spot-on. Just listen to the way he says “Tax deductible charity organization” in Ballad of a Thin Man, or the way he delivers the punch lines in “Leopard-skin Pill-box Hat” (one of the funniest songs ever recorded). Comedians and actors hone their craft for years to sound so natural and relaxed.
You're right on the money with that observation. An example i've always enjoyed... Subterranean Homesick Blues Johnny's in the basement Mixing up the medicine I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off Look out kid It's somethin' you did God knows when But you're doin' it again You better duck down the alley way Lookin' for a new friend The man in the coon-skin cap In the big pen Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot Talkin' that the heat put Plants in the bed but The phone's tapped anyway Maggie says that many say They must bust in early May Orders from the D. A. Look out kid Don't matter what you did Walk on your tip toes Don't try "No Doz" Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows Get sick, get well Hang around a ink well Ring bell, hard to tell If anything is goin' to sell Try hard, get barred Get back, write braille Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you fail Look out kid You're gonna get hit But users, cheaters Six-time losers Hang around the theaters Girl by the whirlpool Lookin' for a new fool Don't follow leaders Watch the parkin' meters Ah get born, keep warm Short pants, romance, learn to dance Get dressed, get blessed Try to be a success Please her, please him, buy gifts Don't steal, don't lift Twenty years of schoolin' And they put you on the day shift Look out kid They keep it all hid Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle Don't wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals Don't wanna be a bum You better chew gum The pump don't work 'Cause the vandals took the handles And a note that all "singers" should pay attention to is that you can understand every word. This is a difficult song to sing. There's no choruses to rest on and every stanza is unique lyrically. tA  Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: damosuzuki said: Even more important than his voice is the incredible sense of timing he possesses. I once heard a lecture on the radio by a professor of music who stated that Dylan’s sense of timing and vocal inflection was only rivaled by Sinatra, and I think that's absolutely spot-on. Just listen to the way he says “Tax deductible charity organization” in Ballad of a Thin Man, or the way he delivers the punch lines in “Leopard-skin Pill-box Hat” (one of the funniest songs ever recorded). Comedians and actors hone their craft for years to sound so natural and relaxed.
You're right on the money with that observation. An example i've always enjoyed... Subterranean Homesick Blues Johnny's in the basement Mixing up the medicine I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off Look out kid It's somethin' you did God knows when But you're doin' it again You better duck down the alley way Lookin' for a new friend The man in the coon-skin cap In the big pen Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot Talkin' that the heat put Plants in the bed but The phone's tapped anyway Maggie says that many say They must bust in early May Orders from the D. A. Look out kid Don't matter what you did Walk on your tip toes Don't try "No Doz" Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows Get sick, get well Hang around a ink well Ring bell, hard to tell If anything is goin' to sell Try hard, get barred Get back, write braille Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you fail Look out kid You're gonna get hit But users, cheaters Six-time losers Hang around the theaters Girl by the whirlpool Lookin' for a new fool Don't follow leaders Watch the parkin' meters Ah get born, keep warm Short pants, romance, learn to dance Get dressed, get blessed Try to be a success Please her, please him, buy gifts Don't steal, don't lift Twenty years of schoolin' And they put you on the day shift Look out kid They keep it all hid Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle Don't wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals Don't wanna be a bum You better chew gum The pump don't work 'Cause the vandals took the handles And a note that all "singers" should pay attention to is that you can understand every word. This is a difficult song to sing. There's no choruses to rest on and every stanza is unique lyrically. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Brilliant! 
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catpark said: sextonseven said: Pat Boone does all that stuff and better! u leave the rolling stones alone!
they were and r better than the beatles. they had more funk. lol, I was joking. I've never seen Pat Boone passed out drunk (or strung out) or better yet, sticking his face in some woman's breast.  | |
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I don't get Jefferson Airplane/Starship. Is anyone here a big fan? | |
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i also dont get:
ELVIS PRESLEY, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ABOUT!  FUNKNROLL! "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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Harlepolis said: Frank Sinatra
He doesn't move a thing in me! Agreed. It's just talking and not only is it just talking but it's talking in a hammy voice! | |
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Moonbeam said: lilgish said: To all Grateful Dead, Phish and Dave Matthews fans...
I just wanna throw a big ass question mark at ya...WTF 
????? AMEN! Big yawn-fest! Word. I had a former roommate who would tape the Grateful Dead Radio Hour every Sunday night, and he put a picture of Jerry Garcia on our mantle. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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James Taylor. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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"today i look all around and see armies of burly 15 year olds with beards and tatoes and piercings all walking around looking like there 40 and thinking they are cool and rebelious while wearing the same mainstream/alternative mall gear that everyone else is wearing."
Did anyone see that episode of South Park where one of the characters becomes a member of a Goth gang. "To join our gang of non-conformists you have to dress exactly like us and listen to the same music that we do". Priceless! My list by the way would include: QUEEN (Overblown rock operatics. I blame Pete Townshend!) JANIS JOPLIN (Bought a 2 CD Ultimate Collection to check out the fuss. Excruciatingly annoying woman screaming? I get that at home already!) COLDPLAY (ZZZZZ) PINK FLOYD (Stoner noodling? Psychedelic brass band music? Gimme the first album with Syd Barrett and forget the rest) PAUL WELLER (Once a great singer and songwriter with The Jam and TSC, covered a vast spectrum of musical styles. Now content with repeating the same turgid rock style for the past ten years) ERIC CLAPTON (Sure Cream were ok but solo? No thanks) UB40 (once quite a cool band until they decided to become a novelty cabaret reggae band) [Edited 10/6/05 2:44am] | |
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sextonseven said: I don't get Jefferson Airplane/Starship. Is anyone here a big fan?
I'm a fan of their 70s music 
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sextonseven said: I don't get Jefferson Airplane/Starship. Is anyone here a big fan?
I like "Somebody To Love" and "White Rabbit" is great. I've tried to get into them, but beyond that I don't liten to them very often. But they do really convey that quintessential 60's San Francisco/hippy/flower power feeling to me. I never experienced that first hand of course, but whenever I feel like "going back" to that era, I'll put on "White Rabbit".  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Cheek said: Barbra StreisandPick up a copy of Guilty Pleasures and listen to it a few times and you'll get her. A singer who can actually sing - imagine. |
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minneapolisgenius said: sextonseven said: I don't get Jefferson Airplane/Starship. Is anyone here a big fan?
I like "Somebody To Love" and "White Rabbit" is great. I've tried to get into them, but beyond that I don't liten to them very often. But they do really convey that quintessential 60's San Francisco/hippy/flower power feeling to me. I never experienced that first hand of course, but whenever I feel like "going back" to that era, I'll put on "White Rabbit". White Rabbit might be the only song by them that I know. Except for "We Built This City", "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us" and "Sara". I've heard those songs a lot. Are those considered classic tracks? | |
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sextonseven said: minneapolisgenius said: I like "Somebody To Love" and "White Rabbit" is great. I've tried to get into them, but beyond that I don't liten to them very often. But they do really convey that quintessential 60's San Francisco/hippy/flower power feeling to me. I never experienced that first hand of course, but whenever I feel like "going back" to that era, I'll put on "White Rabbit". White Rabbit might be the only song by them that I know. Except for "We Built This City", "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us" and "Sara". I've heard those songs a lot. Are those considered classic tracks? Not "We Built This City"!  God no!  Actually, I know nothing of them as Starship.
You'd know "Somebody to Love" though. You have to, because if you don't I might have to  you.
"Don't you want somebody to love?....don't you need somebody to love? Would you love somebody to love?.... you better find somebody to love..." "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: sextonseven said: White Rabbit might be the only song by them that I know. Except for "We Built This City", "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us" and "Sara". I've heard those songs a lot. Are those considered classic tracks? Not "We Built This City"! God no! Actually, I know nothing of them as Starship.
You'd know "Somebody to Love" though. You have to, because if you don't I might have to you.
"Don't you want somebody to love?....don't you need somebody to love? Would you love somebody to love?.... you better find somebody to love..." Hey, I do know that song! I kinda like that one too. Now I won't be able to get it out of my head for the rest of the day.
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sextonseven said: minneapolisgenius said: Not "We Built This City"! God no! Actually, I know nothing of them as Starship.
You'd know "Somebody to Love" though. You have to, because if you don't I might have to you.
"Don't you want somebody to love?....don't you need somebody to love? Would you love somebody to love?.... you better find somebody to love..." Hey, I do know that song! I kinda like that one too. Now I won't be able to get it out of my head for the rest of the day.
Those three Starship songs I listed from the 80s are horrible. They are. I figured you were just kidding about them being classics.
Well, I was hoping you were.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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alandail said: Cheek said: Barbra StreisandPick up a copy of Guilty Pleasures and listen to it a few times and you'll get her. A singer who can actually sing - imagine. My best friend is a Barbra Streisand fan so I know her music. Music that sucks ass big big time - "...Papa can you hear me???" - Puking - imagine.  | |
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Cheek said: alandail said: Pick up a copy of Guilty Pleasures and listen to it a few times and you'll get her. A singer who can actually sing - imagine. My best friend is a Barbra Streisand fan so I know her music. Music that sucks ass big big time - "...Papa can you hear me???" - Puking - imagine. Actually try her first..um..6 albums as her voice sounds really young and fresh, on some of the tracks she sounds like a teenage Bjork!!!- trust me on this one- the 1st disc to your friends "Just for the Record" Boxset and play: "Miss Marmelstein" "You'll Never Know" "I Hate Music" "Nobody's Heart (Belongs to Me)" "Cry Me a River" - You'll be hooked, anything 1960's Streisand rules!?! "There is no such thing in life as normal..." | |
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stevenpottle said: Actually try her first..um..6 albums as her voice sounds really young and fresh, on some of the tracks she sounds like a teenage Bjork!!!-
trust me on this one- the 1st disc to your friends "Just for the Record" Boxset and play: "Miss Marmelstein" "You'll Never Know" "I Hate Music" "Nobody's Heart (Belongs to Me)" "Cry Me a River" - You'll be hooked, anything 1960's Streisand rules!?! Okay, okay!
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theAudience said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: dylan i don't get, either...
Forget the voice, forget the face, forget the persona... Positively 4th Street You got a lotta nerve To say you are my friend When I was down You just stood there grinning You got a lotta nerve To say you got a helping hand to lend You just want to be on The side that's winning You say I let you down You know it's not like that If you're so hurt Why then don't you show it You say you lost your faith But that's not where it's at You had no faith to lose And you know it I know the reason That you talk behind my back I used to be among the crowd You're in with Do you take me for such a fool To think I'd make contact With the one who tries to hide What he don't know to begin with You see me on the street You always act surprised You say, "How are you?" "Good luck" But you don't mean it When you know as well as me You'd rather see me paralyzed Why don't you just come out once And scream it No, I do not feel that good When I see the heartbreaks you embrace If I was a master thief Perhaps I'd rob them And now I know you're dissatisfied With your position and your place Don't you understand It's not my problem I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes And just for that one moment I could be you Yes, I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes You'd know what a drag it is To see you Like A Rolling Stone Once upon a time you dressed so fine You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you? People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall" You thought they were all kiddin' you You used to laugh about Everybody that was hangin' out Now you don't talk so loud Now you don't seem so proud About having to be scrounging for your next meal. How does it feel How does it feel To be without a home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? You've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely But you know you only used to get juiced in it And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street And now you find out you're gonna have to get used to it You said you'd never compromise With the mystery tramp, but now you realize He's not selling any alibis As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes And ask him do you want to make a deal? How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns When they all come down and did tricks for you You never understood that it ain't no good You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat Ain't it hard when you discover that He really wasn't where it's at After he took from you everything he could steal. How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people They're drinkin', thinkin' that they got it made Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe You used to be so amused At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used Go to him now, he calls you, you can't refuse When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal. How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? tA Tribal Disorder
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intha916 said: theAudience said: Forget the voice, forget the face, forget the persona... Positively 4th Street You got a lotta nerve To say you are my friend When I was down You just stood there grinning You got a lotta nerve To say you got a helping hand to lend You just want to be on The side that's winning You say I let you down You know it's not like that If you're so hurt Why then don't you show it You say you lost your faith But that's not where it's at You had no faith to lose And you know it I know the reason That you talk behind my back I used to be among the crowd You're in with Do you take me for such a fool To think I'd make contact With the one who tries to hide What he don't know to begin with You see me on the street You always act surprised You say, "How are you?" "Good luck" But you don't mean it When you know as well as me You'd rather see me paralyzed Why don't you just come out once And scream it No, I do not feel that good When I see the heartbreaks you embrace If I was a master thief Perhaps I'd rob them And now I know you're dissatisfied With your position and your place Don't you understand It's not my problem I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes And just for that one moment I could be you Yes, I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes You'd know what a drag it is To see you Like A Rolling Stone Once upon a time you dressed so fine You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you? People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall" You thought they were all kiddin' you You used to laugh about Everybody that was hangin' out Now you don't talk so loud Now you don't seem so proud About having to be scrounging for your next meal. How does it feel How does it feel To be without a home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? You've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely But you know you only used to get juiced in it And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street And now you find out you're gonna have to get used to it You said you'd never compromise With the mystery tramp, but now you realize He's not selling any alibis As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes And ask him do you want to make a deal? How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns When they all come down and did tricks for you You never understood that it ain't no good You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat Ain't it hard when you discover that He really wasn't where it's at After he took from you everything he could steal. How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people They're drinkin', thinkin' that they got it made Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe You used to be so amused At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used Go to him now, he calls you, you can't refuse When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal. How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 There is much more to a song than the words. If that wasn't the case, we'd all just read poetry. Sorry but I still don't "get" this cat the way i feel about dylan is this: he's so be felt more than he is to be understood and sometimes heard. all those people who sit around and analyze the mans lyrics for "deeper" meaning give me a good laugh. i'm more inclined to sit there enjoy the music, and his voice, and if possible the words. its like i love the song ballad of a thin man, but i have no idea what he's talkin about. or i and i where i cant understand any of the words bsides the chorus. its like i said, he's to be felt moreso than understood or heard (sometimes i just drown out his voice altogether and listen to the music or words) Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Moonwalkbjrain said: intha916 said: There is much more to a song than the words. If that wasn't the case, we'd all just read poetry. Sorry but I still don't "get" this cat the way i feel about dylan is this: he's so be felt more than he is to be understood and sometimes heard. all those people who sit around and analyze the mans lyrics for "deeper" meaning give me a good laugh. i'm more inclined to sit there enjoy the music, and his voice, and if possible the words. its like i love the song ballad of a thin man, but i have no idea what he's talkin about. or i and i where i cant understand any of the words bsides the chorus. its like i said, he's to be felt moreso than understood or heard (sometimes i just drown out his voice altogether and listen to the music or words) OK, I don't get or feel him lol Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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