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Thread started 09/29/05 11:14am

intha916

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Classic Artists you just don't get

I'm not talking about classic artists that don't move you by their musical style. I'm talking about those you just can't understand anyone liking. For example, I'm not into the Beatles but I can understand what some people might see in them.

For me, Bob Dylan is that artist. I've heard all about the complexity and nuances of his lyrics. And how he made such a big stir when he moved away from the acoustic folk scene and went electric. I've read about and listened to a lot of Dylan over the years so it's not like I don't have any knowledge of the man. But all of that said, I don't think he's compelling as musician, singer or song-writer. I swear to god, he's like one big SNL skit to me. Dylan heads go nuts when I say this but that's just the way I feel. I'm a pretty open person when it comes to music. I like to listen to stuff that I know isn't really even my style. I like to try and listen with other ears and understand what people that like that sort of style hear in each artist. I can do this with country, rock, traditional jazz and a lot of other forms of music I'm not personally connected with. But I've just never got Dylan. Anyone else have a classic artists they just don't get?
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Reply #1 posted 09/29/05 11:15am

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dylan i don't get, either...
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Reply #2 posted 09/29/05 11:19am

sextonseven

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The Grateful Dead. Why they were as huge as they were, I will never understand. Can't stand them or any other jam band.
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Reply #3 posted 09/29/05 11:21am

CinisterCee

Bob Dylan's lyrics are like poetry. That poetry just doesn't speak to me.

Co-sign Grateful Dead.
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Reply #4 posted 09/29/05 11:38am

BinaryJustin

Jimi Hendrix.

I know it's probably technically amazing but a lot of it sounds like somebody slowly letting air out of a balloon.
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Reply #5 posted 09/29/05 11:42am

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BinaryJustin said:

Jimi Hendrix.

I know it's probably technically amazing but a lot of it sounds like somebody slowly letting air out of a balloon.


You're joking, right?
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Reply #6 posted 09/29/05 11:46am

AvramsDad

ELVIS PRESLEY hrmph
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Reply #7 posted 09/29/05 11:47am

CinisterCee

sinisterpentatonic, i don't think it should be surprising that certain types of performances don't make sense to certain listeners. especially artists that weren't popular in our time. that's what this thread is about!
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Reply #8 posted 09/29/05 11:50am

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It's hard to think of any legends I don't appreciate, but there are some musicians who get respect in some quarters that I don't really get.

Jay-Z--He just sounds bored to me, and his rhymes make me kinda bored.

Notorious BIG--Better than Jay Z, with a nice natural flow, but there didn't seem to be anything important about his rapping, unlike the other "G.O.A.T" 2Pac. Like Jay Z, I don't hear anything really innovative about his rhythm or rhymes, either.

Madonna--I don't get why anyone would rate her as a great artist. She's got good taste, has made good choices, but musician? Nope.

The Cure--Yech!!!!

Depeche Mode--Yech!!!

Morrissey--Yech!!!

Motley Crue--Their image is far more dangerous than their music.
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Reply #9 posted 09/29/05 11:51am

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CinisterCee said:

sinisterpentatonic, i don't think it should be surprising that certain types of performances don't make sense to certain listeners. especially artists that weren't popular in our time. that's what this thread is about!


I can understand someone not liking Hendrix, but that description was totally wrong. Slowly letting air out of a balloon? That analogy needs to be explained to me.
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Reply #10 posted 09/29/05 11:57am

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CinisterCee said:

sinisterpentatonic, i don't think it should be surprising that certain types of performances don't make sense to certain listeners. especially artists that weren't popular in our time. that's what this thread is about!


lol Thanks for clearing that up for me. rolleyes

i'm totally aware of what the thread is about and don't have much trouble believing someone doesn't like an artist, just came as a shock hearing that from Justin, that's all.
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Reply #11 posted 09/29/05 11:57am

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sextonseven said:

CinisterCee said:

sinisterpentatonic, i don't think it should be surprising that certain types of performances don't make sense to certain listeners. especially artists that weren't popular in our time. that's what this thread is about!


I can understand someone not liking Hendrix, but that description was totally wrong. Slowly letting air out of a balloon? That analogy needs to be explained to me.


You know that squeaking annoying noise balloons make? I think that's what he means.

Honestly, I love Dylan & Hendrix & Nirvana, but not all the sounds they made were pleasant.
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Reply #12 posted 09/29/05 12:03pm

CinisterCee

sinisterpentatonic said:

CinisterCee said:

sinisterpentatonic, i don't think it should be surprising that certain types of performances don't make sense to certain listeners. especially artists that weren't popular in our time. that's what this thread is about!


lol Thanks for clearing that up for me. rolleyes

i'm totally aware of what the thread is about and don't have much trouble believing someone doesn't like an artist, just came as a shock hearing that from Justin, that's all.


hehe sorry, I just want other orgers to feel comfortable on this thread. Takes balls to say you don't like certain artists!
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Reply #13 posted 09/29/05 12:05pm

Anxiety

joe cocker.

i mean, what the hell is that?!
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Reply #14 posted 09/29/05 12:09pm

sinisterpentat
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CinisterCee said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



lol Thanks for clearing that up for me. rolleyes

i'm totally aware of what the thread is about and don't have much trouble believing someone doesn't like an artist, just came as a shock hearing that from Justin, that's all.


hehe sorry, I just want other orgers to feel comfortable on this thread. Takes balls to say you don't like certain artists!


especially Hendrix! tease
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Reply #15 posted 09/29/05 12:15pm

CinisterCee

Anxiety said:

joe cocker.

i mean, what the hell is that?!


don't like his instinctive dance style either?

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Reply #16 posted 09/29/05 12:20pm

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Rick James! Never liked his music or anything I ever heard about him personally.

Notorious BIG - I can barely understand a word he says
Madonna - I just don't get the hype
Nirvana - same as Madonna
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Reply #17 posted 09/29/05 12:20pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:

joe cocker.

i mean, what the hell is that?!


don't like his instinctive dance style either?



there is absolutely nothing appealing about that. nothing.

and the voice is no great shakes, either.
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Reply #18 posted 09/29/05 12:27pm

CinisterCee

Anxiety said:

CinisterCee said:



don't like his instinctive dance style either?



there is absolutely nothing appealing about that. nothing.

lol I know.
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Reply #19 posted 09/29/05 12:37pm

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CinisterCee said:

Anxiety said:



there is absolutely nothing appealing about that. nothing.

lol I know.



i love joe cocker...


my vote has to go to The RollingStones...when i hear them i just hear watered down soul music.....
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Reply #20 posted 09/29/05 12:39pm

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Bruce Springsteen
Bob Dylan
Sex Pistols
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Reply #21 posted 09/29/05 1:15pm

CinisterCee

ooh yeah Bruce Springsteen. I tried asking my family what the big deal about him was.
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Reply #22 posted 09/29/05 2:01pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

CinisterCee said:



hehe sorry, I just want other orgers to feel comfortable on this thread. Takes balls to say you don't like certain artists!


especially Hendrix! tease


I can't be the only one - surely?

Everybody I tell this to, looks at me like I'm mental.
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Reply #23 posted 09/29/05 2:06pm

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Stevie bloody wonder.

Jesus, people think he walked on water on here.



madonna ain't all that.

Cant stand the beastie boys. They bring out the worst parts of rock and rap. Its in your face torture.
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Reply #24 posted 09/29/05 2:18pm

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thesexofit said:

Stevie bloody wonder.

Jesus, people think he walked on water on here.


But do you really have a hard time understanding what people see in his music? I love Stevie and R&B but even if I didn't, I'd still understand what people see in him much the same way I do the Beatles. Both have written so many classic songs it's easy to "get" them.
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Reply #25 posted 09/29/05 2:20pm

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Radiohead.

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“If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists”
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Reply #26 posted 09/29/05 2:26pm

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intha916 said:

thesexofit said:

Stevie bloody wonder.

Jesus, people think he walked on water on here.


But do you really have a hard time understanding what people see in his music? I love Stevie and R&B but even if I didn't, I'd still understand what people see in him much the same way I do the Beatles. Both have written so many classic songs it's easy to "get" them.



Oh, yeah, i do totally respect him (i respect anyone really, but stevie is up there with dylan, the beatles etc...) but i just dont like most of his music, barring the odd song or 2.
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Reply #27 posted 09/29/05 2:36pm

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thesexofit said:

intha916 said:



But do you really have a hard time understanding what people see in his music? I love Stevie and R&B but even if I didn't, I'd still understand what people see in him much the same way I do the Beatles. Both have written so many classic songs it's easy to "get" them.



Oh, yeah, i do totally respect him (i respect anyone really, but stevie is up there with dylan, the beatles etc...) but i just dont like most of his music, barring the odd song or 2.


Then you misunderstood this post

I'm talking classic artist you see absolutely nothing in. This isn't about who's overrated.
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Reply #28 posted 09/29/05 2:38pm

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intha916 said:

thesexofit said:




Oh, yeah, i do totally respect him (i respect anyone really, but stevie is up there with dylan, the beatles etc...) but i just dont like most of his music, barring the odd song or 2.


Then you misunderstood this post

I'm talking classic artist you see absolutely nothing in. This isn't about who's overrated.
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oh right. Sorry, i just read the title.

Whats the fuss about stevie? I do find it odd, everyone on here likes him, but then, there u go.
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Reply #29 posted 09/29/05 3:06pm

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ooh yeah Bruce Springsteen. I tried asking my family what the big deal about him was.

I guess it depends which Springsteen you're talking about.

His early records featured sprawling songs with romanticized visions of street life and hints of folk/rock, r'n'b and even a little jazz, here and there. I'm not crazy about these. This period culminated in Born to Run.

Darkness on the Edge of Town, The River, Nebraska and Born in the U.S.A. all took a more stripped-down approach to telling tales mostly of the working class. Darkness did so with hard-edged guitar rock. The River was more eclectic, stylistically. Nebraska consisted of demos recorded at home on a 4-track cassette recorder, featuring voice, guitar, harmonica and little else. Born in the U.S.A....well you know about that one. lol As these records went along, the melodrama diminished and the lyrics became more straight-forward.

Tunnel of Love, Human Touch and Lucky Town are records with very adult lyrical concerns. Tunnel was written during his first marriage and takes a very sophisticated look at relationships; the music is very AOR. Human Touch and Lucky Town (released simultaneously)are records that delve into the grey areas of life, with Lucky Town mostly celebrating the pleasures of coming to terms with who you are and finding someone to share that with. These are my favourite Springsteen records.

The Ghost of Tom Joad is a mostly acoustic record that tells tales of the poor (especially Mexican immigrants). Not crazy about it.

Most of the songs on The Rising were inspired by 9/11 and it's a moving record.

Devils & Dust is another acoustic record of story songs focusing on the downtrodden.

Springsteen is an excellent lyricist (especially post-Born in the U.S.A.) and an amazing live performer. His concerts are really something to witness (I would suggest checking-out the Live in Barcelona DVD).
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