damosuzuki said:

I can't help my ears.

Beatles - know their records extremely well & dig all their group albums; though never seen 'em live

The Stones - don't own a single record of theirs; can't fathom why they ever existed at all; rather listen to Chicago blues or Motown soul

Zep - got all their records; seen 'em live; just can't stand listening to Robert Plant

Funkadelic - known 'em my entire life. they really make me happy

PFunkjazz said:

Well.. u cant see them anymore.. but u can see paul

and I must tell you... its a wonderful concert.. seen him twice..

andykeen said:

Please tell me.. What albums do you own..


(I think I know the answer to this)

jacktheimprovident said:

Similar to what i said earlier in the thread. The Beatles lack guts, their music doesn't do anything to me. It's all Nursery Rhyme level.
[Edited 9/19/05 16:18pm]

rialb said:

I actually don't disagree with you - I'm not overly fond of their sitar-laden psychedelic explorations, though it's worth noting all of the songs you listed are Harrison numbers (except Norwegian Wood, of course). George was a nice man, and he wrote some creditable numbers, but he was not at the McCartney/Lennon level.

I just used that as an obvious example of the ways the Beatles were not one dimensional. There are valid criticisms that can be made of the Beatles, but that is not among them. Perhaps I was being slightly lazy, as I could have mentioned other ways in which they expanded the scope of popular music that I personally enjoyed a little more.

translate all these bands songs to "single player, two hand" piano versions... and the Beatles will shine thorugh with more melodies, more styles, more intelligence leading to more memorability and emotional response...

I mean compare "Come Together" to "Norwegian wood" to "Day in the Life" to "Why don't we do it in the road"

when I was a wee little lad I had no idea that all the catchy songs were by the same people who were in the beatles...

ufoclub said:

Every time I hear this song I think about Funkadelic.

Out of these four groups, there is but one simple answer.

Zeppelin. Motherfucking Zeppelin.

I'm well versed in all four of these groups, and they all have something to offer (well, not the stones anymore, but they are so fucking OLD! There's really nothing entertaining about seeing four old-as-dirt guys stomping around the stage singing "how come you taste so good". Flame me if you must, but you won't change my mine.

The Beatles, ah. I really only like their later stuff. I guess you could say i'm a "blue album" guy. I've got all their albums, and TONS of bootlegs, but the stuff I keep coming back to is from Revolver to Let It Be. So I can't choose them if I'm dismissing the entire first half of their career.

Funkadelic. What can you say, George is the true king of the Funk. And Yes, "Maggot Brain" is godlike (especially the live version that appeared on the bonus EP that comes with the "one nation" album). Unfortunately, I grew up listening to Mojo, and if you're from Detroit you know that means that I heard enough Funkadelic to last me a lifetime. I still put their albums on, but not with anywhere near the frequency of Led Zeppelin.

Why?

These guys could do it all. Not a bad album, not a bad song really. They were the masters of Blues (as far as blues being played by white guys anyway), Page's guitar work is tops (only hendrix is better, but this thread isn't about him), and there hasn't been, nor ever will be, a drummer with half the power of Bonham. And Jonesy, he was solid with everything he contributed too.

Have you all seen the live Zeppelin DVD set that came out a few years ago? there is no live act in the history of music that can touch them on a stage. And they could damn near break your heart when they got down acoustically. And yes, to whoever mentioned it, "since I've been loving you" is a fucking MASTERPIECE.

Best album: Tie between their first album, and Physical Graffiti.
Best song: are you kidding? well, it's not "stairway" although that's a classic, despite being such a cliche now. It's not "kashmir" either, sorry. It might be "since i've been loving you" or it might be "ten years gone" or it even might be "tangerine". Depends on my mood.

I don't mean this to sound harsh or like i'm being an asshole, but all of you who don't give Zeppelin their props are just fooling yourselves.

smokeverbs said:


Like we fuckin' care, asshole.

smokeverbs said:

spoken as someone who hasn't seen them do it lately, obviously. they rocked. one of the best shows i've ever been to, and it was less than a month ago.

damosuzuki said:

I don't think George was on the same level as Lennon and McCartney either. BUT I think he was a good, and at times great songwriter capable of meeting or beating his "big brothers". I think a lot of people's distaste for George's "indian" songs comes from a lack of appreciation for raga music in general, which is a shame because it is quite beautiful stuff and I think George was much more authentic than a lot of pop songwriters in his forays into it. I don't think Revolver would have been as interesting without Taxman and Love You To, and while I don't think Within You Without You is the best track off Sgt. Pepper, it's certainly very soothing.

I'm really surprised at how many beatle hatas there are on this thread. I'm really at a loss for explanation other than just sheer anti-hype. I'm half kidding, but I don't think you can listen to any of their latter period albums all the way through and not like at least something. Most people I know who don't like them are either uninformed, are musical bigots (like my older brother) or are just plain . It doesn't really matter, they're all great yet very different bands and I like them all for different reasons. I will say that I think Zeppelin and Funkadelic are easier to categorize, but they're all very versatile as well. Just a little aside though, you can hold up the more stellar tracks from the latter and claim that they trump everything by the others, but for every "Maggot Brain" and "Kashmir" there's a Hey Jude or Gimme Shelter or A Day in the Life or Sympathy for the devil

"Day in the Life" holy shit, it's like heroin to me!

Coming from a guy who grew up on Parliament/Funkadelic music this is a hard one. I'm not gonna lie and say I don't favor Funkadelic on this one. However, Led Zeppelin is definitely one of my favorite bands. Top notch musicians and top notch songs.

I've been put off by all of the Beatles hype and those corny pop songs of theirs we hear over and over. However, like any music fan I had to do my homework and over the years I've come to appreciate them. They lack the passion of Zeppelin and a lot of their music is very simple, almost child-like. This isn't necessarily a bad thing but it prevents me from going back to it as often. You don't get this problem as much with Zeppelin. With the Funkadelics you get that to some extent but the groove is there and you can at least dance to it.

I'll have to reserve my comments on the Stones. I haven't done my homework where they're concerned.

So to answer the question: when I want Funk I go for Funkadelic and when I want Rock I go for Zeppelin (although you get a little of each from both bands).

smokeverbs said:

This sounds familiar to me. (my apologies to jacktheimprovident for
going off on a Zeppelin tangent on his Who thread, but I also mention the DVD in this thread):

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/160876

Sdldawn said:

[color=indigo]I own too many albums and many U prob have never heard of before, so please don't even question my music interests. Just because I don't like the Beatles because 1) their music doesn't appeal 2 me and 2) they boring to watch and look at. Now please just take my opinion and shut up! thank U.
(That is what this forum site is all about isn't it opinions)

It's a toss up between the Beatles and the Stones. Having been 5 or 6 yrs old when the Beatles conquered America, they were huge in my music upbring. The Stones were considered the nemesis. From the time I first saw "Gimme Shelter", I became a HUGE Stones fan. I love the Beggars/Sticky Fingers/Let it Bleed/Exile on Main St. pentology Some amazing music is on those 5 albums.

andykeen said:

Damn, a little over sensitive much? He just asked you what albums you owned by them.

minneapolisgenius said:

I fink he was doing a lil more than asking!

Beatles. They're like the Shakespeare of rock. Maybe you don't like their style, but they contributed more to rock/pop music than anybody. And I do happen to like their style.

Favorite--tough, but I'll say Abbey Road for sentimental reasons, followed by the White Album for creative reasons.

BTW I just bought Physical Graffiti & I can't stop listening to it. I was surprised that I didn't know most of the songs. I feel lucky to still have an album like this to discover. And, I still have Houses of the Holy (I have the rest, though). It makes me wish I didn't have the White Album.
[Edited 9/20/05 11:12am]

Actually, I don't know how I could live without the existence of any of these bands. They all put me on

Funkedelic was such a great discovery because I had never heard any of their stuff. How are they not more popular?

I can understand people not liking the Beatles beacuse you can be sick of them without ever buying one of their cd's. Same with Stones/Zep.

andyman91 said:

Which is too bad really, because the songs they overplay on the radio by these bands, don't even scratch the surface of everything they've done.

And yes, Funkadelic are EXTREMELY underrated IMO.

minneapolisgenius said:

My girlfriend is constantly saying "Is this the Beatles?!" because I play her stuff they don't play on the radio, like Dig A Pony, Two Of Us, I've Got A Feeling, Yer Blues, Tomorrow Never Knows, She Said She Said, Rain, Mr. Kite, Good Morning, and on and on.

And Jumpin Jack Flash is a great song, but let's dig a little deeper people! It's been over 30 years! Tumblin Dice isn't the only song on Exile!

andyman91 said:

I know what you mean.

andykeen said:

And yet u never answered my initial question.


and yes, I did see the sensitivity regarding your reply..


and also.. "lil more than asking" ? did I force you in anyway? Cause all I really did was ask.. thats it.


This is interesting.. to say the least.
[Edited 9/20/05 21:46pm]

Sdldawn said:

In all fairness, why would anyone buy an album by an artist whose music is a turnoff to him/her?

Moonbeam said:

Wrong! Try again.

Moonbeam said:

Why? the question I was really wanting to know if this person heard a full album by the beatles.. cause there are simply rediculous phrases such as this...

"I never really got Y the beatles were so big? :S maybe its the whole image thing, but there music really stinks in my opinion!"


Not diggin the beatles is fine. but this is a phrase by someone who sounds like they know nothing about a group that perhaps influenced the music they probably listen to today... and thats fine.. but questioning why they were so big.. and wondering if it was an image? Obviously you havent heard much of anything and talking out of your ass cause if u cant see why they were big, or at least pioneers of their day... you most likely know nothing about them...

Its about giving credit where its due, not if u like them.