Tiffany needs props straight up.


I only just got into her other albums. I had the newjack derivitive "new inside" for years, but never bothered with her first 2 albums. "hold an old friends hand" is very good in places. The title track is very mature lyrically. Tiffany is a great singer.


Another year and I’m still here
The grass just will not grow on this old hill
Still I just can’t let it go,
I don’t believe it’s cause I’m cold
Or partial to the crazy life I’m caught in
Sometimes I fell the hand of time
Moving like it’s body was broke
And it’s then I miss your sighs
And the tender words you spoke

Hey, that’s okay - come on around and get yourself together
Won’t you come on around and hold an old friend’s hand
Babe, I promise not to throw you
You don’t have to stay, I just want to hold you
Won’t you come on around
And hold an old friend’s hand

Another year is dead and gone
The sun don’t want to shine on this old hill
Or anything that’s mine
I don’t believe it hurts to grow
Even when the crop you sow is a failure
Sometimes I wish I had no pride
I’d go off and sell my soul
But how do you say goodbye
To the only truth you’ve known

Hey, that’s okay - come on around and get yourself together
Won’t you come on around and hold an old friend’s hand
Baby baby, I promise not to throw you
You don’t have to stay, I just want to hold you
Won’t you come on around
And hold an old friend’s hand

Oh babe, honey everybody makes mistakes
We feel a lot of life that way
Don’t you think by now I know that?
Look what’s brought us both back
Now - while the leaves still dance on the wind
While the moon and the clouds come spinning
Will you whisper my name again?
Again and again and again

Hey, that’s okay - come on around and get yourself together
Won’t you come on around and hold an old friend’s hand
Around and around with you I’ve been
Flat on the ground and up again
Nobody know for sure just when
Everything changes


Iam sure u'll laugh at me, but I played that track to my dad and he loved it too. And beleive me, he hates this stuff, but that one song especially proves Tiffany can sing songs that are way too mature lyrically, but can still amke them sound personal.

Ironically, "i think we're alone now" is not one of my favs of hers. It is often played at clubs I go to though.. and the video is pretty funny


Tiffany and debbie gibson vs christina and britney? I give alot to christina, but britney ain't got shit on tiffany. Tiffany can sing. End of....

all this mariah carey this and mariah that and i never knew another white girl had serious pipes too.


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Didn't P bone her?

Tiffany sucks!

NWF said:

Man, everyone disses my shit


U need to hear it first man.

Dont anybody like music for the masses? Lets not bring snobbery into this again please

You should STRONGLY consider getting her latest album. It's really good.

CynicKill said:

I picked up "dreams never die" the other day. Its pretty lame as I had some of those songs under geroge e tolbins group PC Quest. It says 1993 and cd seems to be japanese. Its pretty rubbish though.


"i feel new inside, u changed my life...." Those snares are too much

I always remembered the vocals on Tiffany's early singles to be not so good. I don't know what she sounds like now. She was the Britney to Debbie Gibson's Christina Aguilera in the 80s.

sextonseven said:

"I think we're alone now" does not show her off vocally at all. I tend to hear the second album, which i assume didn't do too well (at least in UK), as i only ever found one copy on vinyl.

"could of been" is ok off the first, i think that was a hit (it says it was in the UK)

Debbie vocally ain't too good. But debbie got her own thang I guess. The cutesy geek next door thing.

"electric youth" is so geeky Good song though.

"zappin' it to ya..." and i do love the video

CynicKill said:

I picked up her Hits CD for 3.99 a few years ago.

She really sings ballads well.

the lyrics you posted make me want to find a copy of that album. So, mission accomplished, i think.

sextonseven said:

Okay, I call foul. Tiffany is Maria f**king Callus compared 2 Britney. Debbie Gibson was a singer trained less 4 pop and more 4 the stage. Tiffany's voice and range were much fuller and more powerful. Not 2 mention, neither girl ever grand-standed the way Christina does. I guess my point is they just don't make teen pop stars like they used 2, LOL!

Last I'd heard she'd got her tits out for playboy.

"All This Time" reminds me of a high school girlfriend. Maybe it was just young heartbreak, coupled with rampant hormones, but this song really meant something to me back in the day.

All this time
I knew someday you'd need to find
Something that you left behind
Something I can't give you

All these tears
And like a light love disappears
But hearts are good for souvenirs
And memories are forever

All this time
All in all I've no regrets
The sun still shines the sun still sets
The heart forgives the heart forgets
But what will I do now with all this time

One more kiss
Even though it's come to this
I'll close my eyes and make a wish
Hoping you remember

All this time
All in all I've no regrets
The sun still shines the sun still sets
The heart forgives the heart forgets
But what will I do now with all this time

Say goodbye
Apart we'll make another try
But don't be sorry if you cry
I'll be crying too

All this time
All in all I've no regrets
The sun still shines the sun still sets
The heart forgives the heart forgets
But what will I do now with all this time

npgmaverick said:

All I was saying was that back in the 80s Tiffany and Debbie were always being compared and it was generally thought at the time that Debbie Gibson had more depth and talent. That's how it is now with Britney and Christina.

thesexofit said:

Possibly because the music you seem to love is generally considered to be the worst of the 80s and 90s. Mass produced, gimmicky schlock that is lacking any real substance. Overall, it is geared towards tweens and elementary school age children. To try to assess it as 'artistic' is a real stretch, so that is why you probably don't get a whole lot of takers.

Oh, and I quite like Music For The Masses. It wasn't as strong as Black Celebration or Some Great Reward, but it did have some strong cuts such as "Behind The Wheel" and "Never Let Me Down Again".

thesexofit said:

"I Think We're Alone Now" and "Could've Been" were #1 hits in the U.S. "I Saw Him Standing There" was also top 10. Tiffany had another top 10 single from her second album. "All This Time" maybe? I can't quite remember the name.

She was wicked on Hit Me Baby One More Time. She seemed really nice too.

thesexofit said:

Tiffany's latest album is called "The Color Of Silence". It came out in 2000 and got overwhemlingly positive reviews. Think a thoughtful Alanis, or Alanis if Alanis knew how to write songs.

just because crap A is better than crap B doesn't mean it deserves any props.

thesexofit said:

no, she doesn't. seriously.

Tessa said:

All music deserves props. Even the shit u like


Fuck it, i use to listen to pure shit like slipknot and insane clown posse, but my shit is better now.

JediMaster said:

I understand the tween thing. But hey, couldn't u say somethign credible like radiohead or cloldplay are just aimed at dropout depressed losers?

Dont pigeonhole the music


Also, it ain't the lyrics that grab me, its the melody and production.

I understand the tween thing. But hey, couldn't u say somethign credible like radiohead or cloldplay are just aimed at dropout depressed losers?

Dont pigeonhole the music


Is this thread a joke?

mattperry said:

No, but it looks like one

thesexofit said:

some of the shit i like doesn't need props at all. i like it because i like it. someone giving it props doesn't make me feel better about it or myself for liking it.


in fact, most music doesn't deserve as many props as it gets. its popular entertainment.

Tessa said:

Good point. I guess i just dump everything i listen to on here because iam bored. Plus its nice to maybe see if anyone knows what the fuck iam talking about.

But popular music is the hardest to make. And when i see cyndi fucking lauper getting good props, why no tiffany?

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Co-sign!

Props for what??

wtf!

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

kisscamille said:

Props for not taking music seriously and just doing a few good pop tunes. Jesus christ.

Does every artist have to have cred and meaning to be liked?

thesexofit said:

You really have to be joking. It takes no talent at all for a producer to study trends and copy them. To write lame lyrics to a poppy beat, and have a producer basically manufacture the whole thing in the studio? That is like claiming that it is harder to make a McDonald's burger than a filet mingon!

Oh, and I'll take Cyndi Lauper over Tiffany any day. At least Lauper's stuff had some personality.