Prospect said:

Lil'Kim looks like Cher!!!

PleasurePrinciple said:

That what I'm saying!

Fuck Imagine what her face looks like before they airbrushed this photo!!!

Prospect said:

i wasnt talkin 2 u i was talkin 2 Xavier who said:
If Lil Kim is a disgrace, then beyonce & Ciara and all those other skanks who wear Blonde weaves and try to look white are all disgraces

Prospect said:

It's actually not a bad picture, but I certainly would have not known that it was Lil Kim. She didn't need any surgery at all, but too late for that. She looks better here than at her trial where her lips were unevenly shot up with collegen. In this photo she kinda looks like T-Boz with a long wig

It doesn't get much more twisted: plastic surgeries, collagen injections, augmentations, blond wigs, blue contact lenses...

A female rapper known for her raunchy lyrics has done so much to her face that she now looks like a white woman trying to look like a black woman...

I hope she finds peace while behind bars.

PleasurePrinciple said:

Oh...my bad.

TheCrucialExperience said:

exactly. nova i understand what ur sayin, but IMO that shit only apply to plastic surgery and hair color. but when u actually go out like kim did and change ur skin thats some whole other level shit right there. its offensive, its offensive because there seems to still be a stigma related to being blk. especially a dark skin blk. watch the rappers vids u'll see. if u light u gotta be right and if u dark o well. that shit is offensive big time

BlaqueKnight said:

Agreed, I'd do her!

TheCrucialExperience said:

Cop out.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Not exactly. If they want to butcher their looks and look ridiculous it's their business. No one's body belongs to a collective - sure you have every right to criticize such individuals and I'm there with you on the notion that she looks a bit crazy these days. The changing of skin color is indeed more than dubious, but it's the individual's choice. We can dislike it, even laught at it openly, but it really shouldn't be called a "disgrace" from the perspective of a whole ethnic group. An individual does not belong to a collective - their bodies are not anyone else's property. Besides, I think the charts in US have definitely proven that the old racist view of the music industry´s practises do not apply at all anymore.

thedoorkeeper said:

Can't handle the truth, huh kid?

TheCrucialExperience said:

I think I can handle the truth - you are the one who thinks its useless to discuss it - that only you can handle the truth.

Now if you had said that Lil Kim's wearing the blond wig & lightening her skin is an insult to the black race. An insult to the people who lived & died as slaves to the white race. An insult to all the black people who have fought & died in the years since "freedom" was proclaimed while fighting the white race for every little crumb.

But you didn't say that or anything at all except that you were too good to discuss the subject.

And you know what - maybe you are right - maybe I can't handle the truth.
But we'll never know since the truth is your little secret.

Prospect said:

And YES, that's a wig, right there.
But seriously though, ol' girl's gonna look jacked up after she gets out next year. After that, she really needs to find Jesus.....



...or maybe a style consultant

PleasurePrinciple said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

Now THAT'S a damn shame.....

Good lord, ya'll are a bunch of judgemental heffas

Shit gotton so fuckin' deep, Malcolm X even got a mention in this discussion

If she could go to sleep knowing how much fuckin' up she did 2 her face/body and be fine with it,,,why can't ya'll?

WHOA.

PleasurePrinciple said:

Okay, I GOTTA say somethin about this one.

Honestly, this looks like one of the Muppets on Broadway

Really! Look at it!

thedoorkeeper said:

Like I said, this site isn't qualified to have TRUE discussions/debates on race.Now, move on, kid.

Novabreaker said:

ya know nova, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. as many people who've fought and died so we could be blk AND beautiful, she IS a disgrace. thats like a fuck u to all those people who tried so damn hard.

NORM said:

I don't think so.




Because Janice is smoking hot sex goddess!

thedoorkeeper said:

I feel it's an insult. As a black man, I can't stand seeing these sisters trying to lessen their blackness. Same with Mariah, Beyonce, Ciara and all the rest. It is a disgrace, and it looks stupid. To those who say it's no big deal, how many white girls do you see napping up their hair and permanently darkening their skin? Come on, let's tell it like it is. Some of our people have a poor self-image.

I grew up in the 60's, when "Black is Beautiful" and "Say it Loud...." were the mottos of the day. WTF happened since then?

Moonwalkbjrain said:

VinnyM27 said:

Why the hell is everyone trippin on Kim??? I love the woman

Also do we really know that her skin is lightened or is it just the black and white photo?

By these standards, yall should be trippin the phuc out on Prince and calling him a disgrace:





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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Supa, I think the reason why people are trippin on Kim is that she went overboard on the plastic surgery when she clearly didn't need it.

MadameS said:

People shouldn't be living their lives through lil Kim any more than they should Michael Jackson. She had plastic surgery. Are people going to allow that to color their opinions of themselves and black beauty in general?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Well from the looks of it, soceity in general has a way to go. You should see how on the other threads just at the org how the orgers are spitting fire at each other over Beyonce so it's really a trip. Whereas, I am like your do thing and say fuck what the world thinks. Shit, this is probably why I have been admirer of artists like P, Rick James, and Madonna.
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MadameS said:

That's pretty much my attitude as well. Although, I would be a liar if I didn't say I understand where people are coming from because one thing that drives me nuts as a gay man is when gay men and women try and appear/act as "normal" as possible to be accepted. I say , I'm going be ME not a charicature of what I think I need to be to make you happy. If you don't dig it,