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Thread started 08/10/05 4:20am

peppeken

'Has to be' by Madonna

came across this song on the internet...it was never officialy released as far as I know.....it is excellent...sounds like it was from the 'ray of light' era.

Another lost gem ''the next best thing'' -title song from the movie turkey
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Reply #1 posted 08/10/05 4:24am

DavidEye

"Has To Be" is on the B-side of the "Ray Of Light" single.It also appears on the Japanese import version of the Ray Of Light CD.Not a bad song at all,but it's not as interesting as the other tracks that made the album.

"The Next Best Thing" is a pleasant ballad.
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Reply #2 posted 08/10/05 4:28am

onenitealone

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LOVE both songs. Beautiful. love

Madge seriously needs to release an outtakes/rarities box-set.
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Reply #3 posted 08/10/05 4:36am

peppeken

thanks - i will be ble to buy it now ! wasnt on the ray of light bside i got though...
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Reply #4 posted 08/10/05 5:40am

Ellie

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Utter rubbish.
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Reply #5 posted 08/10/05 6:11am

Moonbeam

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DavidEye said:

"Has To Be" is on the B-side of the "Ray Of Light" single.It also appears on the Japanese import version of the Ray Of Light CD.Not a bad song at all,but it's not as interesting as the other tracks that made the album.


I disagree. "Has to Be" is better than a good 4 or 5 songs on Ray of Light in my opinion.


"The Next Best Thing" is a pleasant ballad.


Is this not "Time Stood Still"? That song rules.
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Reply #6 posted 08/10/05 6:18am

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Moonbeam said:[quote]

DavidEye said:

"Has To Be" is on the B-side of the "Ray Of Light" single.It also appears on the Japanese import version of the Ray Of Light CD.Not a bad song at all,but it's not as interesting as the other tracks that made the album.


I disagree. "Has to Be" is better than a good 4 or 5 songs on Ray of Light in my opinion.


falloff


what five songs is it better than? lol
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Reply #7 posted 08/10/05 6:19am

DavidEye

Moonbeam said:




"The Next Best Thing" is a pleasant ballad.


Is this not "Time Stood Still"? That song rules.




You are correct.The song is called "Time Stood Still".I haven't played it in so long.
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Reply #8 posted 08/10/05 7:38am

VoicesCarry

I never liked this song much. It wasn't nearly as vibrant as much of the stuff on ROL, so it's easy to see why she relegated it to B-side status.
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Reply #9 posted 08/10/05 7:48am

onenitealone

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People might slate me for saying this but one song I think it's better than on ROL is 'Swim'. I never ever listen to that - can't get into it.
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Reply #10 posted 08/10/05 8:57am

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I'd always wished "Has To Be" would've replaced "To Have and Not To Hold". That would've made ROL a perfect album 4 me. But alas, it was axed becuase Madonna wanted 13 tracks on the album. "The luckiest number of all", she said at the time. Those kooky Kabbalists.
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Reply #11 posted 08/10/05 9:22am

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hate this song

it sounds like i'm shopping in bed bath & beyond

if it were on the album it would have to be called "ray of lite"
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #12 posted 08/10/05 10:50am

SassyBritches

badujunkie said:

hate this song

it sounds like i'm shopping in bed bath & beyond

if it were on the album it would have to be called "ray of lite"

falloff

certainly the champagne moment of this thread! lol
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Reply #13 posted 08/10/05 10:55am

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Moonbeam said:

DavidEye said:

"Has To Be" is on the B-side of the "Ray Of Light" single.It also appears on the Japanese import version of the Ray Of Light CD.Not a bad song at all,but it's not as interesting as the other tracks that made the album.


I disagree. "Has to Be" is better than a good 4 or 5 songs on Ray of Light in my opinion.


My opinion as well.
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Reply #14 posted 08/10/05 10:58am

SassyBritches

its better than little star but other than that i can't think of a song that i prefer it to.
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Reply #15 posted 08/10/05 12:16pm

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npgmaverick said:

I'd always wished "Has To Be" would've replaced "To Have and Not To Hold". That would've made ROL a perfect album 4 me. But alas, it was axed becuase Madonna wanted 13 tracks on the album. "The luckiest number of all", she said at the time. Those kooky Kabbalists.



12 apostoles and 1 Jesus=13
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Reply #16 posted 08/10/05 12:20pm

SassyBritches

npgmaverick said:

Those kooky Kabbalists.

i like to call it "kabballywood."
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Reply #17 posted 08/10/05 2:11pm

GangstaFam

Love them both and they both sound quite nice mixed in with the 2nd half of that album.

I really love the circulating outtakes from that album too - Revenge, Gone Gone Gone and Like a Flower. She was on fire with those sessions.
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Reply #18 posted 08/10/05 4:51pm

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DavidEye said:[quote]

Moonbeam said:

DavidEye said:

"Has To Be" is on the B-side of the "Ray Of Light" single.It also appears on the Japanese import version of the Ray Of Light CD.Not a bad song at all,but it's not as interesting as the other tracks that made the album.


I disagree. "Has to Be" is better than a good 4 or 5 songs on Ray of Light in my opinion.


falloff


what five songs is it better than? lol




To Have And Not To Hold
Shanti
Swim
Skin
Nothing Really Matters
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Reply #19 posted 08/10/05 5:21pm

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Tessa said:

DavidEye said:



I disagree. "Has to Be" is better than a good 4 or 5 songs on Ray of Light in my opinion.


falloff


what five songs is it better than? lol




To Have And Not To Hold
Shanti
Swim
Skin
Nothing Really Matters



the remixes save Nothing Really Matters... wish it would have stayed on the Set List for RIT
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Reply #20 posted 08/10/05 5:50pm

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Both are very pleasent songs. Should have been included on proper albums.
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Reply #21 posted 08/10/05 6:13pm

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Time Stood Still was written for the movie.

wasn't even a thought when ROL was made.

other songs like .... Gone Gone Gone, Revenge, Like A Flower would have been nice on the album
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Reply #22 posted 08/10/05 8:12pm

Moonbeam

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DavidEye said:[quote]

Moonbeam said:

DavidEye said:

"Has To Be" is on the B-side of the "Ray Of Light" single.It also appears on the Japanese import version of the Ray Of Light CD.Not a bad song at all,but it's not as interesting as the other tracks that made the album.


I disagree. "Has to Be" is better than a good 4 or 5 songs on Ray of Light in my opinion.


falloff


what five songs is it better than? lol


At least:

Candy Perfume Girl
Nothing Really Matters
To Have and Not to Hold
Little Star

Maybe:

Swim
Shanti Ashtangi
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Reply #23 posted 08/10/05 11:52pm

GangstaFam

As great as "Has To Be" is, I'm glad it isn't on the album. That album has a nice balance of fast, edgy dance tracks and trippy, dreamy ballads. I wouldn't want it weighted too heavily towards the latter.
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Reply #24 posted 08/11/05 2:10am

DavidEye

npgmaverick said:

I'd always wished "Has To Be" would've replaced "To Have and Not To Hold". That would've made ROL a perfect album 4 me.


disbelief lol


"To Have And Not To Hold" is simply beautiful,how could you remove it?
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Reply #25 posted 08/11/05 2:12am

DavidEye

GangstaFam said:

I really love the circulating outtakes from that album too - Revenge, Gone Gone Gone and Like a Flower. She was on fire with those sessions.



hopefully,they will release a "Deluxe Edition" of this CD someday and include all of the outtakes."Like A Flower" is an outstanding track.
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Reply #26 posted 08/11/05 2:42am

onenitealone

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I've never seen any Madonna outtakes anywhere. sad

Are there many in circulation?
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Reply #27 posted 08/11/05 2:53am

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onenitealone said:

I've never seen any Madonna outtakes anywhere. sad Are there many in circulation?



Sadly,there aren't too many Madonna outtakes that are circulating,and the few that are out there can be hard to find.Check out this list of outtakes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...onna_Songs


lol happy hunting!
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Reply #28 posted 08/11/05 3:30am

onenitealone

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DavidEye said:

onenitealone said:

I've never seen any Madonna outtakes anywhere. sad Are there many in circulation?



Sadly,there aren't too many Madonna outtakes that are circulating,and the few that are out there can be hard to find.Check out this list of outtakes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...onna_Songs


lol happy hunting!



thumbs up! Thanks David!
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Reply #29 posted 08/11/05 8:41am

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DavidEye said:

npgmaverick said:

I'd always wished "Has To Be" would've replaced "To Have and Not To Hold". That would've made ROL a perfect album 4 me.


disbelief lol


"To Have And Not To Hold" is simply beautiful,how could you remove it?


I dunno, "To Have and Not To Hold" just never really grew on me. I far prefer the demo version, it's prettier stripped down. I've always considered it the only weak spot on the album.
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