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Reply #30 posted 04/20/05 8:13am

DavidEye

Moonbeam said:

What can you say? Crap sells these days. nod



I've listened to her album,and it is really,really good.You should check it out.
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Reply #31 posted 04/20/05 8:38am

CinisterCee

It's hot nod
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Reply #32 posted 04/20/05 9:42am

CrozzaUK

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well,considering madonna and janet only release albums ever 4/5 yrs etc (not

an exact estimate) then yeah, they probably do have 600k openings!

Mariah usually has an album EVERY yr (apart from Mimi)

This is not just an opening number-it is an absolute vindication for every fan

of MC, against every naysayer of Mariah like, 'Mariah is a has-been, (sorry

have u checked j-lo's figures?).....and, 'i like early Mariah', (is that

the 'early' Mariah who was derided as a poor man's version of Michael Bolton?)

Puleeeeeze people!!!

She has outsold Janet and Madonna!! (soundscan exact figures)

She is the most copied vocalist of this age!

she might not show a tit (like Janet) or her whole crotch (like Madonna)

but she demands respect!!! (and enuf of this piss....JANET:'im explorin my

sexuality!!!'.....ur nearly forty....contain urself!!!

And old Madge, 'ill write about sex addled fantasies in the early 1990s, but

10 yrs later...ill write childrens' books...what a schizo..!!

Doesnt make a damn difference wen uve been photographed bein rogered by vanilla

Ice!! (seriously, it took madge yrs 2 recover from the sex book-she only got

respect from Ray Of Light, about 5/6 yrs later) razz


My what a bitter individual you are, although i credit you for you use of imagination. Lets face it, Mariah could sell a trillion more than Madonna, she'd still be a thick bitch who's lyrics mount to nothing more than the scrawlings of a teenage girl writing "poety" in her diary. She's WAS a fantastic singer, and she used to sing ok songs but that was then, now she is mediocore at best. In fairness ive only heard 2 songs of the album, Its Like That and Fly Like A Bird and they are both shit. The reviews of her album have been pretty universally negative, all picking up on the same points:
Her voice not being what it was - annoying whine etc etc
The blandness of the songs and their lyrics etc etc.
As for labelling Madonna a schizo, im kind of thinking that was a sarcastic comment considering Mariah was practically sectioned a few years ago, and is still displaying what can only be described as erratic/psychotic behaviour.

Her new album may have sold well in the first week, hype and prommotion are the reason, but I can guarentee it wont sell half as well as her albums pre-Butterfly.....why? Because shes not as good as she was then.

As for your releasing an album every year comment, having just checked her discography I would say she releases a new studio album around every two years. Put this against Madonna - 10 original studio albums in just over 20 years (plus many songs for numerous film soundtracks, many films and 5 world tours), I would say Madonnas work rate matches if not exceeds Mariahs.

You can throw sales figures around all day, i can guarentee there will be only one artist still talked about in 50 years and Im guessing it aint Mariah.
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Reply #33 posted 04/20/05 10:56am

twink69

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CrozzaUK said:

minniemousexx said:

well,considering madonna and janet only release albums ever 4/5 yrs etc (not

an exact estimate) then yeah, they probably do have 600k openings!

Mariah usually has an album EVERY yr (apart from Mimi)

This is not just an opening number-it is an absolute vindication for every fan

of MC, against every naysayer of Mariah like, 'Mariah is a has-been, (sorry

have u checked j-lo's figures?).....and, 'i like early Mariah', (is that

the 'early' Mariah who was derided as a poor man's version of Michael Bolton?)

Puleeeeeze people!!!

She has outsold Janet and Madonna!! (soundscan exact figures)

She is the most copied vocalist of this age!

she might not show a tit (like Janet) or her whole crotch (like Madonna)

but she demands respect!!! (and enuf of this piss....JANET:'im explorin my

sexuality!!!'.....ur nearly forty....contain urself!!!

And old Madge, 'ill write about sex addled fantasies in the early 1990s, but

10 yrs later...ill write childrens' books...what a schizo..!!

Doesnt make a damn difference wen uve been photographed bein rogered by vanilla

Ice!! (seriously, it took madge yrs 2 recover from the sex book-she only got

respect from Ray Of Light, about 5/6 yrs later) razz


My what a bitter individual you are, although i credit you for you use of imagination. Lets face it, Mariah could sell a trillion more than Madonna, she'd still be a thick bitch who's lyrics mount to nothing more than the scrawlings of a teenage girl writing "poety" in her diary. She's WAS a fantastic singer, and she used to sing ok songs but that was then, now she is mediocore at best. In fairness ive only heard 2 songs of the album, Its Like That and Fly Like A Bird and they are both shit. The reviews of her album have been pretty universally negative, all picking up on the same points:
Her voice not being what it was - annoying whine etc etc
The blandness of the songs and their lyrics etc etc.
As for labelling Madonna a schizo, im kind of thinking that was a sarcastic comment considering Mariah was practically sectioned a few years ago, and is still displaying what can only be described as erratic/psychotic behaviour.

Her new album may have sold well in the first week, hype and prommotion are the reason, but I can guarentee it wont sell half as well as her albums pre-Butterfly.....why? Because shes not as good as she was then.

As for your releasing an album every year comment, having just checked her discography I would say she releases a new studio album around every two years. Put this against Madonna - 10 original studio albums in just over 20 years (plus many songs for numerous film soundtracks, many films and 5 world tours), I would say Madonnas work rate matches if not exceeds Mariahs.

You can throw sales figures around all day, i can guarentee there will be only one artist still talked about in 50 years and Im guessing it aint Mariah.



For one the first time in Mariahs career, there's no need to defend her, just listen to her new album, it's all about the music. First week sales were good, but means nothing in the long run! but unlike her last couple of albums she actually has songs on the radio to help sell the album.





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Reply #34 posted 04/20/05 3:36pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

My what a bitter individual you are, although i credit you for you use of imagination. Lets face it, Mariah could sell a trillion more than Madonna, she'd still be a thick bitch who's lyrics mount to nothing more than the scrawlings of a teenage girl writing "poety" in her diary. She's WAS a fantastic singer, and she used to sing ok songs but that was then, now she is mediocore at best. In fairness ive only heard 2 songs of the album, Its Like That and Fly Like A Bird and they are both shit. The reviews of her album have been pretty universally negative, all picking up on the same points:
Her voice not being what it was - annoying whine etc etc
The blandness of the songs and their lyrics etc etc.
As for labelling Madonna a schizo, im kind of thinking that was a sarcastic comment considering Mariah was practically sectioned a few years ago, and is still displaying what can only be described as erratic/psychotic behaviour.

Her new album may have sold well in the first week, hype and prommotion are the reason, but I can guarentee it wont sell half as well as her albums pre-Butterfly.....why? Because shes not as good as she was then.

As for your releasing an album every year comment, having just checked her discography I would say she releases a new studio album around every two years. Put this against Madonna - 10 original studio albums in just over 20 years (plus many songs for numerous film soundtracks, many films and 5 world tours), I would say Madonnas work rate matches if not exceeds Mariahs.

You can throw sales figures around all day, i can guarentee there will be only one artist still talked about in 50 years and Im guessing it aint Mariah.


rolleyes

Uh, we are talkin about Mariah here, not Madonna. I have always been a fan of Mariah and her music. I think she has an incredible voice. Some people like her music, some don't. The same with Madonna.
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Reply #35 posted 04/20/05 3:48pm

Moonbeam

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DavidEye said:

Moonbeam said:

What can you say? Crap sells these days. nod



I've listened to her album,and it is really,really good.You should check it out.


Based on the 2 singles I've heard, I think I'll pass. I've never been a fan and "It's Like That" and "We Belong Together" haven't done it for me. biggrin
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Reply #36 posted 04/20/05 3:50pm

jayaredee

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

My what a bitter individual you are, although i credit you for you use of imagination. Lets face it, Mariah could sell a trillion more than Madonna, she'd still be a thick bitch who's lyrics mount to nothing more than the scrawlings of a teenage girl writing "poety" in her diary. She's WAS a fantastic singer, and she used to sing ok songs but that was then, now she is mediocore at best. In fairness ive only heard 2 songs of the album, Its Like That and Fly Like A Bird and they are both shit. The reviews of her album have been pretty universally negative, all picking up on the same points:
Her voice not being what it was - annoying whine etc etc
The blandness of the songs and their lyrics etc etc.
As for labelling Madonna a schizo, im kind of thinking that was a sarcastic comment considering Mariah was practically sectioned a few years ago, and is still displaying what can only be described as erratic/psychotic behaviour.

Her new album may have sold well in the first week, hype and prommotion are the reason, but I can guarentee it wont sell half as well as her albums pre-Butterfly.....why? Because shes not as good as she was then.

As for your releasing an album every year comment, having just checked her discography I would say she releases a new studio album around every two years. Put this against Madonna - 10 original studio albums in just over 20 years (plus many songs for numerous film soundtracks, many films and 5 world tours), I would say Madonnas work rate matches if not exceeds Mariahs.

You can throw sales figures around all day, i can guarentee there will be only one artist still talked about in 50 years and Im guessing it aint Mariah.


rolleyes

Uh, we are talkin about Mariah here, not Madonna. I have always been a fan of Mariah and her music. I think she has an incredible voice. Some people like her music, some don't. The same with Madonna.


Actually the topic creator did the deed of talking about Madonna my dear
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Reply #37 posted 04/20/05 3:57pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:



rolleyes

Uh, we are talkin about Mariah here, not Madonna. I have always been a fan of Mariah and her music. I think she has an incredible voice. Some people like her music, some don't. The same with Madonna.


Actually the topic creator did the deed of talking about Madonna my dear


Shit, you found the thread! eek

Only a matter of time now.....















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Reply #38 posted 04/20/05 4:22pm

DiamondGirl

Moonbeam said:

DavidEye said:




I've listened to her album,and it is really,really good.You should check it out.


Based on the 2 singles I've heard, I think I'll pass. I've never been a fan and "It's Like That" and "We Belong Together" haven't done it for me. biggrin



Yeah but just because you dont like it doesn't mean it's crap. I mean some of you herald Kylie. Come on now. Im surprised at you.
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Reply #39 posted 04/20/05 5:09pm

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DiamondGirl said:

Moonbeam said:



Based on the 2 singles I've heard, I think I'll pass. I've never been a fan and "It's Like That" and "We Belong Together" haven't done it for me. biggrin



Yeah but just because you dont like it doesn't mean it's crap. I mean some of you herald Kylie. Come on now. Im surprised at you.


You're right. It's only crap to me. But I do adore Kylie and I'm sure plenty think she's crap. And that's fine.
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Reply #40 posted 04/20/05 7:07pm

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Moonbeam said:

DiamondGirl said:




Yeah but just because you dont like it doesn't mean it's crap. I mean some of you herald Kylie. Come on now. Im surprised at you.


You're right. It's only crap to me. But I do adore Kylie and I'm sure plenty think she's crap. And that's fine.


Mariah compared to KYLIE disbelief

Somebody get the powder cuz some1 need a PIMP SLAP roun' hurrr'.

Kylie is AIIGHT, but not as a creative songwriter and singer as Mariah come on now rolleyes
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Reply #41 posted 04/20/05 7:19pm

Moonbeam

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paisleypark4 said:

Moonbeam said:



You're right. It's only crap to me. But I do adore Kylie and I'm sure plenty think she's crap. And that's fine.


Mariah compared to KYLIE disbelief

Somebody get the powder cuz some1 need a PIMP SLAP roun' hurrr'.

Kylie is AIIGHT, but not as a creative songwriter and singer as Mariah come on now rolleyes


I never said she was. But her music is vastly superior, in my opinion.
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Reply #42 posted 04/20/05 7:44pm

paisleypark4

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Moonbeam said:

paisleypark4 said:



Mariah compared to KYLIE disbelief

Somebody get the powder cuz some1 need a PIMP SLAP roun' hurrr'.

Kylie is AIIGHT, but not as a creative songwriter and singer as Mariah come on now rolleyes


I never said she was. But her music is vastly superior, in my opinion.



seeing the music u bought (these weird artists I have never heard of) I don't know if u were qualified to judge Mariah especially if u though Kylies music was "superior" Mariah's singles DO NOT speak for album cuts too. And I do have Kylies albums and I feel the same way about her. Kylie has some great jams but like always they are never chose as singles..but even those arent as qualified as Mariah's regular album cuts..

So until u really have heard a full length album don't just judge until u read the book.

But every1 titled 2 their opinion and u gave me reason to write back smile thanks worship
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Reply #43 posted 04/20/05 8:12pm

Moonbeam

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paisleypark4 said:

Moonbeam said:



I never said she was. But her music is vastly superior, in my opinion.



seeing the music u bought (these weird artists I have never heard of) I don't know if u were qualified to judge Mariah especially if u though Kylies music was "superior" Mariah's singles DO NOT speak for album cuts too. And I do have Kylies albums and I feel the same way about her. Kylie has some great jams but like always they are never chose as singles..but even those arent as qualified as Mariah's regular album cuts..

So until u really have heard a full length album don't just judge until u read the book.

But every1 titled 2 their opinion and u gave me reason to write back smile thanks worship


It is true that I haven't heard Mariah's album. I agree with your statement that singles aren't always representative of their parent albums, but for pop artists (as both Kylie and Mariah are), they usually give a good indication of the contents of the album. As such, Mariah's two singles haven't given me any reason to start collecting her music. That said, I admit that my opinion is based only upon those 2 singles, so it is meant to be taken with a grain of salt.

I admit that Mariah is very talented vocally. Back in the early 90s, I feel the musical backdrop better suited her voice. It wasn't exactly my cup o' tea, but I can understand the appeal. However, I don't feel that her more recent output frames her voice very well at all, which itself has been much more mitigated. I think the climate of pop culture caused Mariah to chase certain trends that don't really suit her talents and I feel her music (at least based upon the singles that I have heard) has suffered the consequences.
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Reply #44 posted 04/20/05 8:15pm

jayaredee

Move over Madonna


This is now KYLIE'S THREAD








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Reply #45 posted 04/20/05 8:18pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

Move over Madonna


This is now KYLIE'S THREAD










Stop posting pics from my 18th birthday party. mad
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Reply #46 posted 04/20/05 8:26pm

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:

Move over Madonna


This is now KYLIE'S THREAD










Stop posting pics from my 18th birthday party. mad


If Kylie was at your 18th birthday party, why was i not invited mad
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Reply #47 posted 04/20/05 8:31pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

VoicesCarry said:



Stop posting pics from my 18th birthday party. mad


If Kylie was at your 18th birthday party, why was i not invited mad


I didn't know you back then batting eyes
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Reply #48 posted 04/21/05 12:03am

GangstaFam

paisleypark4 said:

seeing the music u bought (these weird artists I have never heard of) I don't know if u were qualified to judge Mariah especially if u though Kylies music was "superior"

What does that have to do with anything? That's a total cop-out argument. These "weird" artists as you call them, Pretenders, Roxy Music, Parliament are some of the most respected and established in rock music history. And that says what? You can have a broad range of taste that doesn't include Mariah and still have an opinion about her. I don't think it's about being qualified. Pop divas are about the lowest common denominator. Everyone knows them. Everyone gets it. They lay it all out there. There's nothing to figure out. It's all pretty obvious...either you like it or you don't.
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Reply #49 posted 04/21/05 2:55am

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DavidEye said:

Moonbeam said:

What can you say? Crap sells these days. nod



I've listened to her album,and it is really,really good.You should check it out.


THIS ALBUM KICKS ASS! funky, mellow, old skool, I like EVERY SONG!
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Reply #50 posted 04/21/05 3:05am

Janfriend

DiamondGirl said:

Mariah is back with her arm waving as she sings. Good. We need what we are comfortable with again.


lol lmao

Is the arm waving back? I haven't seen her perform yet
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Reply #51 posted 04/21/05 3:16am

Janfriend

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the Constipation Mimi hit #1 eh? oh well i guess people like singers who whisper and have a bulbis face smile


She doesn't whisper on this album. If you heard it, you would know that
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Reply #52 posted 04/21/05 4:01am

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GangstaFam said:

paisleypark4 said:

seeing the music u bought (these weird artists I have never heard of) I don't know if u were qualified to judge Mariah especially if u though Kylies music was "superior"

What does that have to do with anything? That's a total cop-out argument. These "weird" artists as you call them, Pretenders, Roxy Music, Parliament are some of the most respected and established in rock music history. And that says what? You can have a broad range of taste that doesn't include Mariah and still have an opinion about her. I don't think it's about being qualified. Pop divas are about the lowest common denominator. Everyone knows them. Everyone gets it. They lay it all out there. There's nothing to figure out. It's all pretty obvious...either you like it or you don't.


Just because you don't like it (fair enough!) doesn't amke it the lowest common denominator. why do some people think they're musical taste equates to their intelligence.

by the way "We Belong Together" jums from 61 - 30 on billboard hot 100! woohoo!


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Reply #53 posted 04/21/05 4:08am

GangstaFam

twink69 said:

Just because you don't like it (fair enough!) doesn't amke it the lowest common denominator. why do some people think they're musical taste equates to their intelligence.

by the way "We Belong Together" jums from 61 - 30 on billboard hot 100! woohoo!

Oh, you misread me.

I like Mariah just fine. But PP4 jumped all over my brother for not liking her by attacking his taste in other music. He said he's not fit to judge her based on what he likes. My point is that pop divas are among the easiest to appreciate and judge of all music. They put it all out there and leave little mystery. I think it's a case of either you like it or you don't.
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Reply #54 posted 04/21/05 5:37am

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GangstaFam said:

twink69 said:

Just because you don't like it (fair enough!) doesn't amke it the lowest common denominator. why do some people think they're musical taste equates to their intelligence.

by the way "We Belong Together" jums from 61 - 30 on billboard hot 100! woohoo!

Oh, you misread me.

I like Mariah just fine. But PP4 jumped all over my brother for not liking her by attacking his taste in other music. He said he's not fit to judge her based on what he likes. My point is that pop divas are among the easiest to appreciate and judge of all music. They put it all out there and leave little mystery. I think it's a case of either you like it or you don't.


I concur
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Reply #55 posted 04/21/05 6:03am

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GangstaFam said:

twink69 said:

Just because you don't like it (fair enough!) doesn't amke it the lowest common denominator. why do some people think they're musical taste equates to their intelligence.

by the way "We Belong Together" jums from 61 - 30 on billboard hot 100! woohoo!

Oh, you misread me.

I like Mariah just fine. But PP4 jumped all over my brother for not liking her by attacking his taste in other music. He said he's not fit to judge her based on what he likes. My point is that pop divas are among the easiest to appreciate and judge of all music. They put it all out there and leave little mystery. I think it's a case of either you like it or you don't.



No ok maybe I take that back, but as someone who does own Kylies albums and have listened to them in full length like a normal person who actually listenes to music and doesnt just skip from track to track (as Jay Z once said) I don't feel Kylie has the athorataah cartman over Mariah at all. Kylie couldnt handle songs like "Your Girl" "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" "Fantasy" "Circles" "Joyride" "Breakdown" the list goes on and on.

I just felt a person whom normally listens to R&B music should and would be better suited to judge an R&B record.

I dont know, Im tired as hell and if I made ya mad hey...what more can eye say
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Reply #56 posted 04/21/05 6:13am

GangstaFam

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No ok maybe I take that back, but as someone who does own Kylies albums and have listened to them in full length like a normal person who actually listenes to music and doesnt just skip from track to track (as Jay Z once said) I don't feel Kylie has the athorataah cartman over Mariah at all. Kylie couldnt handle songs like "Your Girl" "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" "Fantasy" "Circles" "Joyride" "Breakdown" the list goes on and on.

I just felt a person whom normally listens to R&B music should and would be better suited to judge an R&B record.

I dont know, Im tired as hell and if I made ya mad hey...what more can eye say

What!!!? Okay!
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Reply #57 posted 04/21/05 6:20am

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GangstaFam said:

paisleypark4 said:

No ok maybe I take that back, but as someone who does own Kylies albums and have listened to them in full length like a normal person who actually listenes to music and doesnt just skip from track to track (as Jay Z once said) I don't feel Kylie has the athorataah cartman over Mariah at all. Kylie couldnt handle songs like "Your Girl" "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" "Fantasy" "Circles" "Joyride" "Breakdown" the list goes on and on.

I just felt a person whom normally listens to R&B music should and would be better suited to judge an R&B record.

I dont know, Im tired as hell and if I made ya mad hey...what more can eye say

What!!!? Okay!


confuse
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confuse

Yeah!!!! headbang
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Reply #59 posted 04/21/05 8:27pm

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Janfriend said:

Mazerati said:

the Constipation Mimi hit #1 eh? oh well i guess people like singers who whisper and have a bulbis face smile


She doesn't whisper on this album. If you heard it, you would know that



baby whisper is gone?


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