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Reply #60 posted 12/09/04 9:30pm

VinnyM27

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JANFAN4L said:

For those keeping track, here's Janet's Grammy nomination history:

(The ones she won are in bold)

1987-Album of the Year-"Control"
1987-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-"Control"
1987-Best R&B Song-What Have You Done for Me Lately"
1988-Best Concept Music Video-Control the Videos Part II
1990-Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female-Black Cat
1990-Best R&B Song-Miss You Much
1990-Best Female R&B Vocal Performace-Miss You Much
1990-Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocal-Rhythm Nation
1990-Producer of the Year
*1990-Best Music Video, Long Form-Rhythm Nation
1991-Best R&B Song-"Alright"
1991-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-"Alright"
1992-Best R&B Duo or Group-"The Best Things in Life Are Free" w/ Luther Vandross
1993-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-"That's The Way Love Goes"[/b]
*1993-Best R&B Song-That's The Way Love Goes
1995-Best Pop Collaboration-"Scream"
*1995-Best Music Video-Short Form-"Scream"
1998-Best R&B Female Performance (I Get Lonely)
*1998-Best Music Video Short, Form (Got til It's Gone)
1999-Best Rap Duo or Group-What's It Gonna Be w/Busta Rhymes
*2002-Best Dance Recording-(All For You)
2002-Best Pop Vocal Album-(All For You)
2002-Best Pop Female Vocal Performance-(Someone to call my lover)
2004-Best Contemporary R&B Album-Damita Jo
2004-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-I Want You

*=won

I count 25.

Janet is the only performer male or female to be nominated for Grammy Awards in Pop, Rock, Dance, Rap and R&B, and the first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy.

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Cool. Both "janet" and "The Velvet Rope" were robbed (and those might be my favorite two albums). I find it interesting that "All For You" got a pop album nod and not an R&B nod. They were diffently listening to the AFY album becuase it was very pop while "Damita Jo" is much more R&B based (even though R&B is it's biggest weakness).
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Reply #61 posted 12/10/04 3:26pm

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Isel said:

JANFAN4L said:



Isel, sometimes it's better not to rationalize asininity. And this right here is one of those cases.

lol lol

GrayKing,

You're so silly... nuts and TOTALLY wrong!!!! xmas



in 10 years, you'll agree with me.
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Reply #62 posted 12/10/04 4:36pm

JANFAN4L

VinnyM27 said:

JANFAN4L said:

For those keeping track, here's Janet's Grammy nomination history:

(The ones she won are in bold)

1987-Album of the Year-"Control"
1987-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-"Control"
1987-Best R&B Song-What Have You Done for Me Lately"
1988-Best Concept Music Video-Control the Videos Part II
1990-Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female-Black Cat
1990-Best R&B Song-Miss You Much
1990-Best Female R&B Vocal Performace-Miss You Much
1990-Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocal-Rhythm Nation
1990-Producer of the Year
*1990-Best Music Video, Long Form-Rhythm Nation
1991-Best R&B Song-"Alright"
1991-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-"Alright"
1992-Best R&B Duo or Group-"The Best Things in Life Are Free" w/ Luther Vandross
1993-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-"That's The Way Love Goes"[/b]
*1993-Best R&B Song-That's The Way Love Goes
1995-Best Pop Collaboration-"Scream"
*1995-Best Music Video-Short Form-"Scream"
1998-Best R&B Female Performance (I Get Lonely)
*1998-Best Music Video Short, Form (Got til It's Gone)
1999-Best Rap Duo or Group-What's It Gonna Be w/Busta Rhymes
*2002-Best Dance Recording-(All For You)
2002-Best Pop Vocal Album-(All For You)
2002-Best Pop Female Vocal Performance-(Someone to call my lover)
2004-Best Contemporary R&B Album-Damita Jo
2004-Best R&B Female Vocal Performance-I Want You

*=won

I count 25.

Janet is the only performer male or female to be nominated for Grammy Awards in Pop, Rock, Dance, Rap and R&B, and the first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy.

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Cool. Both "janet" and "The Velvet Rope" were robbed (and those might be my favorite two albums). I find it interesting that "All For You" got a pop album nod and not an R&B nod. They were diffently listening to the AFY album becuase it was very pop while "Damita Jo" is much more R&B based (even though R&B is it's biggest weakness).


I find it remarkable that Janet was nominated in the Best Rock category for her work on "Black Cat." I'm surprised the Grammy's acknowledged that song as a rock track and simply didn't place her in the R&B or Pop category because she's "a black artist." Shows that music was different back then. Also, it's even more incredible "Black Cat" was nominated because it was the first song she wrote entirely BY HERSELF. She should start writing more of her own songs.


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Reply #63 posted 12/10/04 4:38pm

JANFAN4L

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I LOVE this freakin' album!

*cues up SloLove*

You are all of me.
And all that you're showin' me
Is so beyond belief.
I'm livin' a dream.

Baby, take it to another level tonight.
Express our lovin' in the music.
Baby, don't you realize that this is the time
That I am yours and you will be all miiine!


*pump up the bass*

Oh, I wanna tell you all I wanna do, do is (*pant pant*)
Uh, uh all the day through 'n (*ah ah*)
Slo, slo lovin' undercover take it up, nice and slow.

Oh, I wanna tell you all I wanna do, do is (*pant pant*)
Uh, uh all the day through 'n (*ah ah*)
Slo, slo lovin' undercover take it up, nice and slo-ow.


And now my favorite little line...

Freeze this moment please,
Don't wanna get it outta my head


biggrin

Can't control the heat when our bodies meet.

Baby, take it to another level tonight.
So excited I'm beyond control.
Baby, don't you realize that this is our time?
DIDN'T YOU KNOW IT?! DIDN'T YOU KNOW IIIT?!


dancing jig music dancing jig


Go on, grrrl! biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 12/10/04 4:39pm

VoicesCarry

RN got completely robbed talk to the hand
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Reply #65 posted 12/10/04 4:47pm

JANFAN4L

VoicesCarry said:

RN got completely robbed talk to the hand


I know! That album yielded 8 Grammy nods and won one.

I don't think the committee understood the kind of album they had on their hands at the time. I'm pretty sure the competition wasn't up to snuff.
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Reply #66 posted 12/10/04 7:17pm

ABeautifulOne

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JANFAN4L said:

theVelvetRoper said:

I LOVE this freakin' album!

*cues up SloLove*

You are all of me.
And all that you're showin' me
Is so beyond belief.
I'm livin' a dream.

Baby, take it to another level tonight.
Express our lovin' in the music.
Baby, don't you realize that this is the time
That I am yours and you will be all miiine!


*pump up the bass*

Oh, I wanna tell you all I wanna do, do is (*pant pant*)
Uh, uh all the day through 'n (*ah ah*)
Slo, slo lovin' undercover take it up, nice and slow.

Oh, I wanna tell you all I wanna do, do is (*pant pant*)
Uh, uh all the day through 'n (*ah ah*)
Slo, slo lovin' undercover take it up, nice and slo-ow.


And now my favorite little line...

Freeze this moment please,
Don't wanna get it outta my head


biggrin

Can't control the heat when our bodies meet.

Baby, take it to another level tonight.
So excited I'm beyond control.
Baby, don't you realize that this is our time?
DIDN'T YOU KNOW IT?! DIDN'T YOU KNOW IIIT?!


dancing jig music dancing jig


Go on, grrrl! biggrin


sorry but i hate slolove it makes me think of paris in a carnival.xcept i love paris and the video is tacky
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Reply #67 posted 12/10/04 7:21pm

VoicesCarry

JANFAN4L said:

VoicesCarry said:

RN got completely robbed talk to the hand


I know! That album yielded 8 Grammy nods and won one.

I don't think the committee understood the kind of album they had on their hands at the time. I'm pretty sure the competition wasn't up to snuff.


I think they were too busy nominating Paul Simon for his global noises during the '86-'89 period.

Like A Prayer didn't get an album or record of the year nod, either.

And RN not getting either was just ridiculous.
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Reply #68 posted 12/10/04 7:43pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

JANFAN4L said:



Go on, grrrl! biggrin


sorry but i hate slolove it makes me think of paris in a carnival.xcept i love paris and the video is tacky


The video? There is a video for "SloLove"? What? What, what!
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Reply #69 posted 12/10/04 7:45pm

VinnyM27

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VoicesCarry said:

JANFAN4L said:



I know! That album yielded 8 Grammy nods and won one.

I don't think the committee understood the kind of album they had on their hands at the time. I'm pretty sure the competition wasn't up to snuff.


I think they were too busy nominating Paul Simon for his global noises during the '86-'89 period.

Like A Prayer didn't get an album or record of the year nod, either.

And RN not getting either was just ridiculous.


Madonna never really got any serious nods until "Ray Of Light", right? She did a get a nod for best pop album for "Bedtime Stories", which I thoguht was great at the time and she should have won.
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Reply #70 posted 12/10/04 7:48pm

VoicesCarry

VinnyM27 said:

ABeautifulOne said:



sorry but i hate slolove it makes me think of paris in a carnival.xcept i love paris and the video is tacky


The video? There is a video for "SloLove"? What? What, what!


There is none. It sounds like ABO is confusing SloLove with Because Of Love, which does indeed feature a tacky video of Janet & pals in Paris.
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Reply #71 posted 12/10/04 8:21pm

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VoicesCarry said:

VinnyM27 said:



The video? There is a video for "SloLove"? What? What, what!


There is none. It sounds like ABO is confusing SloLove with Because Of Love, which does indeed feature a tacky video of Janet & pals in Paris.
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Reply #72 posted 12/10/04 8:21pm

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VoicesCarry said:

VinnyM27 said:



The video? There is a video for "SloLove"? What? What, what!


There is none. It sounds like ABO is confusing SloLove with Because Of Love, which does indeed feature a tacky video of Janet & pals in Paris.


Damn it! It really looks like an effort to push DJ is over and has been since "All Nite", huh? Thanks.
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Reply #73 posted 12/10/04 8:27pm

VoicesCarry

VinnyM27 said:

VoicesCarry said:



There is none. It sounds like ABO is confusing SloLove with Because Of Love, which does indeed feature a tacky video of Janet & pals in Paris.


Damn it! It really looks like an effort to push DJ is over and has been since "All Nite", huh? Thanks.


Rumor is that Janet's already working on a new project.
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Reply #74 posted 12/10/04 8:34pm

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VoicesCarry said:

VinnyM27 said:



Damn it! It really looks like an effort to push DJ is over and has been since "All Nite", huh? Thanks.


Rumor is that Janet's already working on a new project.


Shit! I'd highly doubt it's a new album, considering how she works (as well as the idea that it isn't smart to follow up a not very well recieved album with something new so quickly).
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Reply #75 posted 12/10/04 8:41pm

VoicesCarry

VinnyM27 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Rumor is that Janet's already working on a new project.


Shit! I'd highly doubt it's a new album, considering how she works (as well as the idea that it isn't smart to follow up a not very well recieved album with something new so quickly).


Apparently it is a new album. Of course this is only a rumor.....
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Reply #76 posted 12/10/04 8:58pm

JANFAN4L

VoicesCarry said:

VinnyM27 said:



Damn it! It really looks like an effort to push DJ is over and has been since "All Nite", huh? Thanks.


Rumor is that Janet's already working on a new project.


Yeah, I reat at MTVNews.com that Janet is dropping a new album in '05. I hope it's all brand new material.
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Reply #77 posted 12/10/04 9:49pm

GrayKing

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JANFAN4L said:

VoicesCarry said:



Rumor is that Janet's already working on a new project.


Yeah, I reat at MTVNews.com that Janet is dropping a new album in '05. I hope it's all brand new material.



oh, me too! woot! but i hope it's actually BRAND NEW material, and not Janet's idea of "brand new material" (ie, rehashing the "janet." album over and over).
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Reply #78 posted 12/10/04 10:21pm

JANFAN4L

VoicesCarry said:

VinnyM27 said:



The video? There is a video for "SloLove"? What? What, what!


There is none. It sounds like ABO is confusing SloLove with Because Of Love, which does indeed feature a tacky video of Janet & pals in Paris.


Yeah, I had a feeling we weren't listening to the same song. I don't get a Paris visual out of SloLove.
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Reply #79 posted 12/11/04 6:58am

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VoicesCarry said:

VinnyM27 said:



The video? There is a video for "SloLove"? What? What, what!


There is none. It sounds like ABO is confusing SloLove with Because Of Love, which does indeed feature a tacky video of Janet & pals in Paris.



no actually i had a dream that it was like set in paris and janet was working in a carnival because that song makes me think of a damn circus
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Reply #80 posted 12/11/04 7:07am

VoicesCarry

GrayKing said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yeah, I reat at MTVNews.com that Janet is dropping a new album in '05. I hope it's all brand new material.



oh, me too! woot! but i hope it's actually BRAND NEW material, and not Janet's idea of "brand new material" (ie, rehashing the "janet." album over and over).


BAIT.
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Reply #81 posted 12/11/04 9:59am

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VoicesCarry said:

GrayKing said:




oh, me too! woot! but i hope it's actually BRAND NEW material, and not Janet's idea of "brand new material" (ie, rehashing the "janet." album over and over).


BAIT.




TRUTH.
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Reply #82 posted 12/11/04 10:09am

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GrayKing said:

VoicesCarry said:



BAIT.




TRUTH.
[Edited 12/11/04 9:59am]



lol lol lol It's your erroneous perception of the "truth," a false reality, so to speak. BUT I WILL AGREE THAT I'M HAPPY ABOUT THE NEW CD!!!!!
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Reply #83 posted 12/11/04 10:10am

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Isel said:

GrayKing said:





TRUTH.
[Edited 12/11/04 9:59am]



lol lol lol It's your erroneous perception of the "truth," a false reality, so to speak. BUT I WILL AGREE THAT I'M HAPPY ABOUT THE NEW CD!!!!!



I'd say I'm happy about the new CD too, but I'll hold back my enthusiasm. I got excited for the last 2 and they just laid there.
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Reply #84 posted 12/11/04 10:16am

VoicesCarry

GrayKing said:

VoicesCarry said:



BAIT.




TRUTH.
[Edited 12/11/04 9:59am]


Because The Velvet Rope is so much like janet. rolleyes
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Reply #85 posted 12/11/04 10:21am

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VoicesCarry said:

GrayKing said:





TRUTH.
[Edited 12/11/04 9:59am]


Because The Velvet Rope is so much like janet. rolleyes



well, it's not dissimilar from it. but as i've said before. it's like making a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy. the farther you get away from the original, the worse it gets. The Velvet Rope is saved from being a crap rehash of the "janet." album by actually being good. the other two, not so much. it's the law of diminishing returns setting in....
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Reply #86 posted 12/11/04 10:27am

VoicesCarry

GrayKing said:

VoicesCarry said:



Because The Velvet Rope is so much like janet. rolleyes



well, it's not dissimilar from it. but as i've said before. it's like making a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy. the farther you get away from the original, the worse it gets. The Velvet Rope is saved from being a crap rehash of the "janet." album by actually being good. the other two, not so much. it's the law of diminishing returns setting in....


Sorry, TVR is not only better than janet., but completely different structurally. Hardly a fluffy pop record like janet. was. In a million years you never would have heard Got 'Til It's Gone on janet.
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Reply #87 posted 12/11/04 10:31am

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VoicesCarry said:

GrayKing said:




well, it's not dissimilar from it. but as i've said before. it's like making a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy. the farther you get away from the original, the worse it gets. The Velvet Rope is saved from being a crap rehash of the "janet." album by actually being good. the other two, not so much. it's the law of diminishing returns setting in....


Sorry, TVR is not only better than janet., but completely different structurally. Hardly a fluffy pop record like janet. was. In a million years you never would have heard Got 'Til It's Gone on janet.



rolleyes "completely different structurally" ... yeah, they moved the orgasm up a few tracks from the end.

it's not a million miles away from the "janet." album. TVR is actually my favorite. however, i'm not so gaga over it that i don't recognize that she was repeating herself.
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Reply #88 posted 12/11/04 10:34am

VoicesCarry

GrayKing said:

VoicesCarry said:



Sorry, TVR is not only better than janet., but completely different structurally. Hardly a fluffy pop record like janet. was. In a million years you never would have heard Got 'Til It's Gone on janet.



rolleyes "completely different structurally" ... yeah, they moved the orgasm up a few tracks from the end.

it's not a million miles away from the "janet." album. TVR is actually my favorite. however, i'm not so gaga over it that i don't recognize that she was repeating herself.


So Marvin Gaye features sex on record after record, and that's perfectly OK, but when Janet does it (with janet. and then TVR), you complain about repetition. Ok then.
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Reply #89 posted 12/11/04 10:39am

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VoicesCarry said:

GrayKing said:




rolleyes "completely different structurally" ... yeah, they moved the orgasm up a few tracks from the end.

it's not a million miles away from the "janet." album. TVR is actually my favorite. however, i'm not so gaga over it that i don't recognize that she was repeating herself.


So Marvin Gaye features sex on record after record, and that's perfectly OK, but when Janet does it (with janet. and then TVR), you complain about repetition. Ok then.



first, Janet is no Marvin.

second, when are you going to give up on this one? because it's getting boring too. lol
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