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Lennon or Mcartney? Who's solo work do you prefer?

Some would say apples and oranges. Others are very specific in their choice and their reasoning. Me, the world Chico. And everything in it. Oops. Uh, what was I saying? Oh yeah. Me, being a huge Beatle nut and digging both artists solo works for different reasons, if u put a gun up to my temple, I would have to say Paul's solo work. He was definately more prolific, putting out more albums. I'm counting what was released before 1980 of course. I just dig Paul's albums overall. Ironically, John's last album with Yoko in 1980 was a masterpiece. Anyway, which do u prefer?
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Reply #1 posted 10/18/04 11:56am

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Some would say apples and oranges. Others are very specific in their choice and their reasoning. Me, the world Chico. And everything in it. Oops. Uh, what was I saying? Oh yeah. Me, being a huge Beatle nut and digging both artists solo works for different reasons, if u put a gun up to my temple, I would have to say Paul's solo work. He was definately more prolific, putting out more albums. I'm counting what was released before 1980 of course. I just dig Paul's albums overall. Ironically, John's last album with Yoko in 1980 was a masterpiece. Anyway, which do u prefer?

Sorry ya'll. I see I left out the other C in McCartney.
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Reply #2 posted 10/18/04 12:04pm

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This is always a tough question. Imagine & Plastic Ono Band are masterpieces. I don't think McCartney ever came close to either with any of his solo albums. However, as time goes on, I am definitely listening to McCartneys solo stuff much more. Band on the Run, Wings Over America, and the recent Wings compilation is on constant rotation in my house. So I gotta say Paul's solo stuff gets played more than Lennon's...but Lennon was definitely the more honest artist between the two. I have never been a big fan of Double Fantasy..its ok, but its a bit over-rated imo.

The best of all of 'em, however, is George's All Things Must Pass...its better than any McCartney or Lennon album by far. Its as good as any Beatles album. This album simply does not age.
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Reply #3 posted 10/18/04 12:05pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Some would say apples and oranges. Others are very specific in their choice and their reasoning. Me, the world Chico. And everything in it. Oops. Uh, what was I saying? Oh yeah. Me, being a huge Beatle nut and digging both artists solo works for different reasons, if u put a gun up to my temple, I would have to say Paul's solo work. He was definately more prolific, putting out more albums. I'm counting what was released before 1980 of course. I just dig Paul's albums overall. Ironically, John's last album with Yoko in 1980 was a masterpiece. Anyway, which do u prefer?


I like a lot of Paul's earlier solo work, but I haven't been too into his later stuff. I also like a lot of John's solo work too, but to be very honest, I can't stand anything he did with Yoko. I respect her as his wife, but I can't stand her as a singer. I think they are apples and oranges though. Their music was quite different. I guess if I had to pick I would choose Paul, but in reality they are fairly equal to me. I think that if John was still alive his more recent music would be much better than Paul's recent music. Just my opinion.
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Reply #4 posted 10/18/04 12:20pm

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ohhhhh man... TA's gonna write a Novel on this one.. lol he says "Lennon rules Mccartney drools" im partial to both actually...
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Reply #5 posted 10/18/04 12:40pm

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McCartney has so much more work to base my opinions on, but I'm going to have to say him. John Lennon did release some extraordinary albums, but also some extraordinary failures.

I think McCartney maybe never reached the highs of Lennon, but also not the lows. He was more consistent. And some of his albums, RAM for example, are very very good. So, I'm going for Paul.
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Reply #6 posted 10/18/04 12:45pm

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Pagey said:

This is always a tough question. Imagine & Plastic Ono Band are masterpieces. I don't think McCartney ever came close to either with any of his solo albums. However, as time goes on, I am definitely listening to McCartneys solo stuff much more. Band on the Run, Wings Over America, and the recent Wings compilation is on constant rotation in my house. So I gotta say Paul's solo stuff gets played more than Lennon's...but Lennon was definitely the more honest artist between the two. I have never been a big fan of Double Fantasy..its ok, but its a bit over-rated imo.

The best of all of 'em, however, is George's All Things Must Pass...its better than any McCartney or Lennon album by far. Its as good as any Beatles album. This album simply does not age.

I'm not a fan of Yoko, but "Double Fantasy" is a very good album. Would I rank it with Imagaine or Plastic Ono's band? No. But, Double Fantasy has great sentimental attachments to it because of the timing of it's release. I didn't mention George, because it was always the debate of John and Paul. All Things Must Pass is also a very good album. Better than the best of Paul or John's? Nah. But very good.
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Reply #7 posted 10/18/04 12:46pm

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blackguitaristz said:[quote]. Me, the world Chico. And everything in it.

did u pick that line from the movie scarface by al pacino?
it has to be man.cos thats one of my fave quotes from the movie too!
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Reply #8 posted 10/18/04 12:56pm

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raveon2tnek said:[quote]

blackguitaristz said:

. Me, the world Chico. And everything in it.

did u pick that line from the movie scarface by al pacino?
it has to be man.cos thats one of my fave quotes from the movie too!

Umm, uh,..nah. I just made that shit up. No, I can't front on my boy Al Pacino. Uh... yes.
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Reply #9 posted 10/18/04 12:59pm

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I'm a huge fan of the Beatles and of both McCartney and Lennon's solo work. While I think John's work was more introspective and more revealing as an artist...and he made some absolutely beautiful music...I personally prefer McCartney's solo work. I love his very melodic songwriting style...there are so many McCartney classic songs to choose from. Of course, we will never know what Lennon would have created if he would have still been alive. Either way, they are both geniuses and have created some of the most incredible music that will live on forever. But again, in my personal opinion, I do tend to prefer McCartney's songs...even with the Beatles...but I can see how someone could easily prefer Lennon since they are both musical masters.

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emilio319 said:

I'm a huge fan of the Beatles and of both McCartney and Lennon's solo work. While I think John's work was more introspective and more revealing as an artist...and he made some absolutely beautiful music...I personally prefer McCartney's solo work. I love his very melodic songwriting style...there are so many McCartney classic songs to choose from. Of course, we will never know what Lennon would have created if he would have still been alive. Either way, they are both geniuses and have created some of the most incredible music that will live on forever. But again, in my personal opinion, I do tend to prefer McCartney's songs...even with the Beatles...but I can see how someone could easily prefer Lennon since they are both musical masters.

And Blackguitaristz..."I always tell de truth, even when I lie...Say goodnight to de badguy meng...ju never gonna see a badguy like dis again, believe me."

Thank you emilio319. Very good! And what u said about John and Paul, I agree with you 100%. Very well said.

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Reply #11 posted 10/18/04 1:41pm

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i'd say lennon, if it werent for fucking yoko's presence on his albums. i'll be enjoying one of his tunes, then suddenly i'll notice her voice in the background, screaching like a cat caught under a lawnmower. oh, and double fantasy? best half album ever. love john's stuff on it, always skip yoko's.

i have to pick paul, just because its yoko-free.

i agree with the poster who cited george's stuff. he gets overlooked too often
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Reply #12 posted 10/18/04 1:44pm

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Paul.

'Coming Up' by Wings is a funky work of genius.

I know that Lennin had a writing credit on Bowie's equally funky 'Fame' but it sounds more like Bowie than Lennon. I actually think that Yoko is more interesting than John.
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Nobody could deny that Paul was better at crafting pop tunes than John during the solo years, not to mention that he was more prolific (John actually "retired" for about 4-5 years).

But as an artist, John kicked Paul's ass. Plastic Ono Band is one of the most emotional and personal albums ever released by a human being. If there was no Imagine, John would still win. But Imagine is great, too. I think Mind Games is as good as Band on the Run (though not as well produced), and Walls & Bridges and Double Fantasy showed that he could still do pop.

And even his mediocre stuff like (I think it's called) "Sometime in New York" had more purpose and soul than much of Paul's work.

Paul's masterpiece is Silly Love Songs because it is completely self aware and says "I don't give a fuck" to the critics, but that really is what he mostly produced, silly love songs. I don't think that Paul had any great albums. Band on the Run is close, but has some pretty weak songs on it. Ram is okay. Tug of War is okay. Red Rose Speedway is okay.

Paul's Greatest Hits might be a better collection of pop hits, however, and have more well known stuff (he certainly was more successful).
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Reply #14 posted 10/18/04 1:57pm

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I prefer John's solo work... Although I like Paul's too... Just like in The Beatles John's songs are a little more darker than Paul's.

But what makes John's work stronger for me is that he was an awesome lyricwriter.....
I must say that I really dig John's early solo work, the later ones was too much Yoko Ono involved, so the albums got weaker.

Paul has made some great albums too, Flaming pie is one of his best solo wrok in my opinion.

But comparing the years John was alive, John made the better albums.... Don't know what John was up to doing these days if he was alive....

So conclusion...I like both, but John had more meaningful songs!
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BinaryJustin said:

Paul.

'Coming Up' by Wings is a funky work of genius.

I know that Lennin .....


Lenin????? lol
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Reply #16 posted 10/18/04 2:02pm

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I know Lennon was more of an "Artist", but in terms of the number of songs I actually like, it would have to be McCartney...
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Reply #17 posted 10/18/04 2:05pm

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McCartney
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definitely John.
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Reply #19 posted 10/18/04 2:30pm

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sad I am very sad to say that I am not as familiar with John and Paul's solo works as I am with the beatles albums,I do have some of George Harrisons stuff and I liked it a lot


However I do accept MP3's biggrin
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Meloh9 said:

sad I am very sad to say that I am not as familiar with John and Paul's solo works as I am with the beatles albums,I do have some of George Harrisons stuff and I liked it a lot


However I do accept MP3's biggrin

George's solo work counts, definately.
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Reply #21 posted 10/18/04 2:49pm

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shrug I don't know. I like both of their works equally, I suppose.
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Reply #22 posted 10/18/04 2:51pm

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ohhhhh man... TA's gonna write a Novel on this one.. lol he says "Lennon rules Mccartney drools" im partial to both actually...


Lennon rules. His repertoire is way more interesting and experimental, even when it wasn't all that good (rare). McCartney can be so....mawkish.
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VoicesCarry said:

TheRealFiness said:

ohhhhh man... TA's gonna write a Novel on this one.. lol he says "Lennon rules Mccartney drools" im partial to both actually...


Lennon rules. His repertoire is way more interesting and experimental, even when it wasn't all that good (rare). McCartney can be so....mawkish.

I'll spare everyone the verbal vomit Finess. (the crowd goes wild)clapping
Thanks VC for making the point more succinctly than I would have.

I do view Lennon's work as more artistic and adventurous than McCartney's which is more...hmmm...hack-like?

Actually, the "Lennon Rules...McCartney Drools" quip was used specifically to pull Supernova's chain. evillol

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theAudience said:

VoicesCarry said:



Lennon rules. His repertoire is way more interesting and experimental, even when it wasn't all that good (rare). McCartney can be so....mawkish.

I'll spare everyone the verbal vomit Finess. (the crowd goes wild)clapping
Thanks VC for making the point more succinctly than I would have.

I do view Lennon's work as more artistic and adventurous than McCartney's which is more...hmmm...hack-like?

Actually, the "Lennon Rules...McCartney Drools" quip was used specifically to pull Supernova's chain. evillol

tA

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I would say that Lennon runs a bit deeper...whereas McCartney is more pop-ish...
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Reply #25 posted 10/18/04 4:50pm

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I prefer John's solo work... Although I like Paul's too... Just like in The Beatles John's songs are a little more darker than Paul's.

But what makes John's work stronger for me is that he was an awesome lyricwriter.....
I must say that I really dig John's early solo work, the later ones was too much Yoko Ono involved, so the albums got weaker.

Paul has made some great albums too, Flaming pie is one of his best solo wrok in my opinion.

But comparing the years John was alive, John made the better albums.... Don't know what John was up to doing these days if he was alive....

So conclusion...I like both, but John had more meaningful songs!

Lennon was better lyrically imo. He also had a bit more "attitude" and was a more interesting guy.
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Reply #26 posted 10/18/04 6:40pm

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I love both of their work. I can't make a decision! smile
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Reply #27 posted 10/19/04 1:18am

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McCartney

however...

put All Things Must Pass vs. any post-Beatles album (single album) by Lennon or McCartney, and I think Harrison wins.

As a body of work though, McCartney.
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Reply #28 posted 10/19/04 2:12am

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Can't decide, really. They both did some great solo stuff. shrug
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blackguitaristz said:[quote]

raveon2tnek said:

blackguitaristz said:

. Me, the world Chico. And everything in it.

did u pick that line from the movie scarface by al pacino?
it has to be man.cos thats one of my fave quotes from the movie too!

Umm, uh,..nah. I just made that shit up. No, I can't front on my boy Al Pacino. Uh... yes.


common man just own up in clear logical terms, its okay to nick tony montana's quote.i do that too. so its very human okay!
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